EDITORIAL: Dislike Shailene Woodley? Why you "Deserve" a Spider-man Movie

EDITORIAL: Dislike Shailene Woodley? Why you "Deserve" a Spider-man Movie

My response to Katey Rich's "If You Think Shailene Woodley Isn't Pretty Enough For The Amazing Spider-Man 2, You Don't Deserve The Movie" and why your opinion matters!

Do you Deserve The Amazing Spider-Man 2? Well i know a lot of us are still torn about The Amazing Spider-Man 1, but we DO know we deserve a good, definitive take on Spider-man in general. Why do we deserve that? Because the Spider-Man film Franchise has made Millions capitalizing on a character a lot of us are passionate about. Spider-man and its characters are a little piece of American-pop that generations have come to love from comics, cartoons and now film.



In response to the casting of Mary Jane, Katey Rich from Cinema Blend.com seems to think "If You Think Shailene Woodley Isn't Pretty Enough For The Amazing Spider-Man 2, You Don't Deserve The Movie". Well that is a pretty bold claim, with a lot of contributing factors. While Katey attempts to demonize comic book fans (and in particular ones on THIS website) who she admittedly sees as "the comic shop owner from the Simpsons" and while I'd love to say i own a comic shop, i am just a fan who thinks Kate from Cinema Blend is missing the point.

Katey casts a light on comic fans as just wanting to see Mary Jane as a "Big Breasted" "nerd's wet dream", because they haven't accepted the casting of Shailene Woodley or as Katey puts it, her "amazing naturalism". Amazing naturalism may work for trendy shows like HBO's Girls, or indie flicks, but not Mary Jane Watson, and here is why, and no it's not some kind of comic book fan insider information.

Mary Jane Watson IS a Model/Actress in the comics. She is suppose to be someone of exceptional beauty that should be too good for Peter Parker, and although that may not be "realistic" as you put it (in a movie about a man who got bit by a spider and now has the powers of a spider) it is also the fabric of her character. That is 50 years of continuity generations of fans have come to accept, and that in itself has a built in expectation for us Spider-man fans and our eagerness to see Hollywood get the character right and unlike Raimi's take on the character, make her interesting.

My point being, I don't think Shailene Woodley is ugly, but many people's first reaction is, she is no Mary Jane. Comic fans don't want a "girl next door" Mary Jane, they want that Spunky knock-out that separates her from characters like Gwen Stacey. Katey at Cinema Blend would put down comic fans for having an opinion but at the same time she seems to harbor resentment towards actual Hollywood vixens.

I personally don't think Emma stone is some amazing beauty but Gwen Stacey is that girl-next-door kind of character and she looks good in the role. Although i think the relationship stuff in Amazing Spider-man lost part of the audience with it's kind of glamorized awkwardness you see in indie rom-coms (we are suppose to believe peter parker is a awkward shlub who can't get Gwen but also like cool skateboarder who fights jocks...if he was any hipper he would be selling pot...okay i have derailed.)

The Spider-man franchise once dominated the comic book movie market. The Webb's Amazing Spider-man seemed to take a couple steps back for every step it took forward that lead to it being mostly over shadowed last year and dare i say, almost under the radar. So why we should trust Webb's judgment or his "realistic take" as you put it, isn't a given. Katey Rich is obviously a fan of Shailene Woodley and cites an experience where she got meet her and was quite taken with her. But as much i can respect Kate's genuine enthusiasm for the actress, Kate should respect the opinions of Spider-man fans and those passionate about the source material. The difference between comic book fans and people who just watch the movies is comic fans know what the average movie goer are missing out on and we want for Spider-man what Marvel has done for their cinematic universe that has made them the biggest thing in comic book movies.

This casting isn't the biggest deal ever, it just doesn't help Spider-man fans lackluster expectations on the series. If the casting doesn't radiate with fans in some way, then your kind of killing the enthusiasm for your movie. Whether or not Shailene Woodley looks or acts the part in the actual movie and changes people's minds is a possibility, but telling the fans what they deserve is not something for anyone to decide but them.

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manymade1
manymade1 - 3/1/2013, 10:04 AM
These Woodley articles are about to become the newest "Why TDKR Sucks" articles.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 3/1/2013, 10:06 AM
Nice job..although in Katey's defense (did I just say that?) I don't think she was talking about the fans that just reasonably expressed that they didn't think she was right for the role, rather the ones that were incredibly obnoxious and insulting about it..but I might be wrong.

Personally I think everyone is entitled to express their opinion on any actor or actress without being bullied down by someone who differs in their opinion..BUT, when it becomes a case of blatant - and serious, ie not said as a joke (there is no doubt in my mind a sense of humor would greatly improve many demeanor!) - misogyny then yeah, others do have the right to tell you off..you don't have to listen, but there you go.
SpaceCase
SpaceCase - 3/1/2013, 10:10 AM
Good article, why does she say "deserve"? I don't put up the millions to make this film, I haven't been hired to work on it, I sit on my ass and complain when movies suck. Hardly makes me deserve anything does it? Now people are entitled to fictional stories or a directors vision?
DoodPool
DoodPool - 3/1/2013, 10:25 AM
@everyone with Shailene Woodley Editorial Fatigue.

My article has little to do with the casting of Shailene Woodley. It's more about Katey Rich's article, and trying to explain to her and people like her Why fans feel the way they do, and why it's important.

I understand but i do think my article has it's own unique perspective, several articles were posted since i started working on this and considering my content i thought it would still be appropriate to post.

@RorMachine
i know what you mean, the fans that attacked Woodley's looks are what set Katey off, but she still seemed to also resent the idea of the Mary Jane's character by associating it with "nerds wet dreams" when the character is suppose to be a model/extress and be a tad exotic looking.
Lindsey35
Lindsey35 - 3/1/2013, 11:12 AM
When is all this crap going to stop?! Just one article after other! THIS IS JUST DUMB!!! My god people!

I don't think Woodley is playing the "modelsexy-huge-breasted" MJ where she says "Face it tiger, you've just hit the jackpot," although, filming has just began, so who knows?
I'm pretty sure she is playing the MJ from the Ultimate comics, where she's into journalisim. Obviously, she's going to be more out-going - motor-cycle for instants - than Gwen, so maybe it's a mixture of both?

I personally think there's nothing wrong with Woodley's looks. I've seen some pictures, she is beautiful. She can't be any worse than Dunst, and at least she can act.

Also, this article seemed like a couple paragraphs to bash TASM. Just a little too much sarcasm for my taste, especially for a movie that was honestly really good.

Come at me bros.

(also, I watched TASM yesterday (along with Batman Begins), love it more every time I watch it. I think I've seen it 5 times now.)
Lindsey35
Lindsey35 - 3/1/2013, 11:14 AM
Just read JokerFanHAhaHA's last comment before mine.

Yep, that makes A LOTTA sense, bro.
Facade
Facade - 3/1/2013, 2:16 PM
I guess I don't deserve it (unless it's wearing make-up).
OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 3/1/2013, 2:27 PM
LET. THIS. DIE. ALREADY.
bigcountry64
bigcountry64 - 3/1/2013, 6:42 PM
Why does RDJ make a great Tony Stark? Because he looks and acts like Tony Stark.

Personally I want an MJ who looks and acts like MJ. MJ is supposed to be the hottest redhead on the planet who falls for a nerdy Peter Parker because she sees the man within.

I don't give a rat's ass about MJ in Ultimate Spiderman. I've been reading Spiderman for long enough that I deserve an MJ that looks like MJ. So Katey is right, I don't deserve TASM2. I deserve better.

I don't think she is ugly, she is just not MJ.


DoodPool
DoodPool - 3/1/2013, 8:46 PM
@JokerFanHAhaHA
i get they are in high school. do you get that Andrew Garfield is almost 30 years old? Do you get that they need to cast this movie so they have a story to tell post them being in highschool, also reporting please don't spam my comments insulting people.
DoodPool
DoodPool - 3/1/2013, 8:58 PM
@bigcountry64
Exactly. This casting to me seems very underwhelming. I am not familiar with the actress, but my first impression is she doesn't really stand out, she kinda has a emma stone vibe.

@Rob2814
Never called her ugly, you should read my article. I guess because you think the directors last name is Webb that's qualification enough to direct a spider man movie, but i think it's better to adapt the comic and make the right choices and not unnecessary ones. Amazing-Spiderman was more on par with "Superhero movie" then it was with Raimis, imo. Webb still has a lot to prove.
DoodPool
DoodPool - 3/2/2013, 10:14 AM
@JokerFanHAhaHA

You must really love high school and the Saturday morning cartoon take on spider-man but sooner or later this franchise will need to mature and you'll still be stuck with Shailene Woodley as Mary Jane, as far as i can tell it is unfortunate casting. I don't care whether or not she can act, there a girls who look the part of Mary Jane that can act as well.
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