Why So Cynical?

Why So Cynical?

All this hating really needs to stop.

Editorial Opinion
By TrollHunter - Feb 24, 2011 12:02 AM EST
Filed Under: Other

QUIT YOUR BITCHIN' AND MOANIN'!

How's that for an attention grabber? Good. Now that you're all paying attention, lets just get right to it - This is not a fan site. Plain and simple. The people on here just straight up don't like comic book movies. Think I'm wrong? Go look at the comments section for any article and you'll see that I'm not. I'd say about 90% of the comments for any given article are negative. What the [frick] is wrong with you people?

Since when was being a fan all about trashing movies? You call yourselves fans but in all honesty your not. The definition of a fan is as follows - "A fan, sometimes also called aficionado or supporter, is a person with a liking and enthusiasm for something, such as a band or a sports team. Fans of a particular thing or person constitute its fanbase or fandom. They may show their enthusiasm by being a member of a fan club, holding fan conventions, creating fanzines, writing fan mail, or by promoting the object of their interest and attention."

Does that sound like most of the people on this site? Nope.

One day I came on here and one of the articles on the main page had the title and heading of this - "The Latest Batch of Transformers 3 Set Pics. Does anyone care anymore? This is the last one, right?"

And that was on the HOMEPAGE! That should be the example for the word Cynical in the dictionary.

What is wrong with fans these days? Why do we feel the need to continuously put down movies? As fans, we should be celebrating what we love about comic book movies! We the hell are you guys so negative? Why do you have to focus on the bad for everything?

You people act so ungrateful. We live in the Age of the Geek! We get multiple kick-ass summer blockbusters every year! And yet every year you guys whine and complain about how they are rapeing your childhood. (Which is such a bullshit remark by the way. Your old G1 Transformers shows will always be there along side your old G.I. Joe shows. They can't touch 'em)

You end up just giving fans in general a bad name. I mean jeez, I know we hate the stereo type of some fat guy sittin in his mom's basement typing furiously while pushing up his broken glasses every once in awhile, but some of you people make it really hard to deny that.

Instead of being so god damn cynical all the time lets start being positive! Even the worst things have something that you can take away from them. Lets look at some movies that you guys continue to bash and see what we can take away form them -

-Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: Optimus Prime taking on Grindor, Starscream AND Megatron in the forest. You know it was [frick]in badass.

-Spider-Man 3: The Symbonite Suit. That fight with Sandman in the subway was undeniably cool and the scen were he tears off the suit was epic.

-Star Wars Episode II-Attack of the Clones: Yoda fighting for the first time. Admit it. You had a nerdgasm.

-X-Men Origins: Wolverine: Liev Schreiber as Sabertooth. 'Nuff said.

-X-Men: The Last Stand: Iceman vs. Pyro. Once again... 'Nuff said.

That's just a sample. Name any movie that you think was shit and I'll give you AT LEAST one great moment from said movie.

All this cynicism also applies to upcoming movies. I mean what the hell was that all about with you guys CONSTANTLY saying X-Men First Class was gonna be shit. Then all of a sudden the trailer comes out and you guys start to change your tune! Have faith! Why in the hell should we off doubted Mattew Vaughn?! The man just gave us Kick-Ass!

Now don' worry, I'm not just going to rant at the haters. I'm now going to shift focus to the FANS WHO DON"T STICK UP FOR THE MOVIES THAT THEY LIKE! By not saying anything, you give the impression that a certain movie really was bad. Speak the [frick] up!

I know for a [frick]ing fact that more people liked some of the movies that get trashed than there are people who supposedly hated it. You know why? Because they make shit loads of money! You think really think Revenge of the Fallen would have made $400 million dollars in just the U.S. if so many people hated it? Hell no!

In conclusion, the so called "fans" on this site need to start proving that they are indeed fans and the actual fans need to come out of the [frick]ing closet and show their support.

All in all I wanna see less negativity and more [frick]ing excitment! Let's make this site an actual fan-site and not a black hole of cynicism.

Consider this rant officially over.

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LEEE777
LEEE777 - 2/26/2011, 12:41 AM
WOW!

A$$BENDER! : p


; )
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 2/26/2011, 12:43 AM
Yeah, lets support sh1T and the big slap in the face...

GEEZUZ lol.
TrollHunter
TrollHunter - 2/26/2011, 2:10 PM
@ LEEE777
Wow. You really dont understand do you. Instead of being complete douche bags in the comment sections towards almost every CBM that gets released lets try and talk about 3 main things -

1) What did the movie do right?

2) What did the movie do wrong?

3) What could they do to improve it?

Theres no reason we have to be dicks to almost every movie that gets released.
KeithM
KeithM - 2/27/2011, 4:20 PM
So we should pretend that, say, Jonah Hex was good? Or even be grateful for it?

That ain't never gonna happen.

I understand your frustration, but you can't tell people to like something they really, really don't just because YOU can find ONE good moment in it. It doesn't work like that.

I agree that the site could do with a lot less cynicism and certainly a lot less hysterics, but to say that we should be excited about everything, and praise - or even worse be grateful for - stuff we genuinely believe to be crap, is being ridiculous.

Sometimes you almost make sense, but you lose it by saying some silly stuff, like we should be grateful for any old crap.

Grateful for Jonah Hex!? Hahahahahaaa! [frick] no.

1. Nothing

2. Everything.

3. Burn it.
felixxx
felixxx - 2/27/2011, 10:23 PM
I agree with you Tollhunter. Unfortunately your wasting your breath with these guys. You take away there ability to cry to the world and the only person that will hear them is there mom....from upstairs. Trolls are everywhere here. You will have plenty of good hunting.
KeithM
KeithM - 2/28/2011, 5:29 AM
@felixxx: Boy that was a cynical post. Deliberate irony or a complete lack of self-awareness? :)
felixxx
felixxx - 3/1/2011, 2:46 AM
@KeithM -----Cynical implies having a sneering disbelief in sincerity or integrity. In other words, think of it as always looking at things negatively. Focusing on the bad instead of the good. My comment does neither. It simply states the fact, that his post wont stop the constant b!!!!ing, even though id like it to. Along with a small jab at trolls. I fully agree with him in every aspect of his article in its entirety. Im tired of all the trolls, "experts", and just plain hating. Its one thing to express your thoughts on a subject or what you would like to see, didnt see and think could have been better but its another to BASH EVERYTHING. 30% of our "commenter’s" are nothing more than trolls with another 30% being what Aguaman stated "that think they know everything and they hate everything that isn't the exact SM". My "good hunting" comment was in total support of his article, not bashing it. Ironys not my style and im fully "self-aware" of what im writing. The actual definition and your opinion of what “cynical” means are two different things. I can kind of see why you took my comment as being "cynical" and thank you for the chance to clear it up for ya:)
KeithM
KeithM - 3/1/2011, 8:13 AM
@felixxx: So you agree that we should praise and even be grateful for crap movies?

That's what he said.

cynical (n): bitterly or sneeringly distrustful, contemptuous, or pessimistic.

or: distrusting or disparaging the motives of others.

Your post quite comfortably fits all those definitions.

I understand the word perfectly, but I guess you're too blinded by your sneering distrust, contempt and pessimism, and too busy disparaging the motives of others to see it.

I agree with him 100% about some of the OTT hysteria you see a lot of on this site (as I stated in my post), but NOT EVERYONE is like that, and I for one will never pretend to feel anything other than what I feel, nor will I ever be afraid to say so. That's not being 'cynical' - it's called 'honesty'.

Blind acceptance of any old shit and praising it regardless is NOT the opposite of cynicism. It's just dishonesty.

Your post WAS cynical because you generalise about everyone, CYNICALLY, and use TROLLISH cliches (moms and basements). I'm approaching 45, with children of my own. My 'mom' doesn't even have a basement, and I haven't lived with her since I was 16. My post was directly addressing the guy's points and countering them with the flaw in his argument using Jonah Hex as an example.

I don't bash everything. Some do, I agree, but not everyone does, so it's CYNICAL to lump everyone in the same boat when it's far from the truth.

felixxx
felixxx - 3/1/2011, 7:42 PM
@KeithM
NO WHERE in my comments did I say "we should praise and even be grateful for crap movies". Not one time, my point is that theres a better way to handle it than just going to every article and writing how much it sucks, how gay it is, and generalizing EVERYTHING into being a piece of s!!!. Example, I HATE Smallville, so I dont read the articles vs going to everyone of them and writing how gay I think it is. But if I were to comment, it should be why I dont like it or what I think would make it better. See the difference?

Im well aware of the definition and what it means. I posted both in my comment before. My comments did not show distrust, contempt, or pessimism towards the writer or reader. A cynical comment would have been "This article is gay and the writers stupid as s!!! for posting it."(JUST AN EXAMPLE) "Dont waste your breath", is nothing more than a quote from long before you and me basically saying its a waste of time and effort. Thats not being pessimistic or "cynical" if its true. Trolls will troll anywhere they can, CBM being no different. Only trolls should be offended by my comment to which I say, “Good, I have to read the crap they post everyday.”

Not once in my comments did I "generalize everyone". If you would have read the whole thing, you would have seen I used some percentage rates, that may not be accurate but I feel they are close. Its YOU who took my comment personal, decided to be cute and post your smart a!! comment to me. I wasnt even using your original comment in regards to mine. My post just happen to be below yours, not directed towards it. It wasnt a bash on YOU or any others by name. As I said before, the only people that should be offended by it are the trolls. I didnt say YOU were a troll so no need to give me your lifes story in your defense. Lets just agree to disagree about what ever it is you started and get back to reading some CBM news. Peace for all CBMers.
KeithM
KeithM - 3/2/2011, 9:23 AM
"Unfortunately your wasting your breath with these guys."

Cynical generalisation. Not "some of these guys." You see the difference? (and it's "you're" btw, not "your")

"You take away there ability to cry to the world and the only person that will hear them is there mom....from upstairs."

Cynical generalisation. Not "some people", but a GENERALISED "There" - which is a misspelled "their" btw - twice. And you lecture me on the use of English? ;)

I didn't take it personally as it happens, but I was just pointing out how CYNICAL your first post came across as - WHICH IT DOES.

You've attempted to qualify it since, true, but you also attacked me over the definition of cynical when it was you who failed to understand the meaning of the word (or at the very least didn't have the self-awareness to realise just how cynical your first post was).

Look, once again, I'm actually AGREEING with the general thrust of his argument, and it pisses me off every bit as much as it does him, but the article IS let down by some poor examples, some poor wording and the VERY SAME cynicism he's complaining about.

I'm not trying to be a hardass (it just comes naturally ;)) - I'm just amused by some of the ironies in this piece and in some of the responses to it. That's all. :)
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