An Earlier Version Of SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME Would Have Outed Mysterio As A Skrull

An Earlier Version Of SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME Would Have Outed Mysterio As A Skrull

The writers of Spider-Man: Far From Home have revealed that in a much earlier version of the sequel, the villainous Mysterio would have been revealed to be a shape-shifting Skrull. Read on for details...

By JoshWilding - Jul 18, 2019 03:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Far From Home
Source: Collider
The marketing campaign for Spider-Man: Far From Home led us to believe that Quentin Beck/Mysterio hailed from another world but [SPOILER ALERT], we quickly find out that he's a fraud. 

However, while Mysterio may have used drones to create his illusions, it sounds like Marvel Studios was planning to take things in a very different direction during a much earlier stage of development. According to writers Erik Sommers and Chris McKenna, they mulled over outing the villain as a shape-shifting Skrull (presumably setting up Secret Invasion in the process). 

"There were some early, early versions of this movie where Mysterio was a Skrull," Sommers said.

"There were a lot of Skrull versions of the story early on. When you’re doing a con artist movie, what we finally landed on—we sat down and talked about how do we keep on fooling the audience, how do we keep on having a lot of fun reveals? How many distractions can we get away with before people want to murder us? [The Mysterio skrull reveal] was an early idea about why he was doing everything he was doing," he revealed without elaborating on what that might mean.

After all, Mysterio being an alien definitely would have shaken things up, and the sequel probably would have focused more on how Earth changed after Thanos' attack (with an invasion from aliens like the Skrulls) rather than the ramifications and fallout from Iron Man's shocking demise.
 
"I don’t think it ever made it to paper, necessarily, but we talked about it for a while," McKenna added. "But we talked about a lot of stuff. That’s what it is, in those early stages. It’s just a lot of talk. Going down different roads and just gradually refining things until you have a story."

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There Was A Version Where Mysterio Was A Villain From The Start



Around the halfway point in Spider-Man: Far From Home, Mysterio's villainous nature is revealed, but for comic books fans, that wasn't exactly a surprise. However, there was a version of the movie where Quentin Beck would have been bad from the start. 

"With Mysterio, there were versions of the story where he was at the forefront as an out-and-out villain that Peter and Nick were chasing around Europe as he pulled off these events," McKenna reveals, "all building to this back story of why he was doing it, which was a wholly different third act. We went down a lot of different roads."
 
"[Ultimately], because Mysterio deals so much in deception," Sommers adds, "it was sort of natural that it led to a story structure where his entire identity was a mislead for a while."
 

Why The Sequel Included "The Multiverse"



Mysterio claims to be from another Earth and says The Elementals destroyed his planet and killed his family. It's all nonsense, of course, but there's a very good reason why the Multiverse was referenced. "Any time we find ourselves with a twist or surprise reveal of something like this," Sommers explains, "we want to do as much as we can to protect it and distract from it ahead of time."

That explains why the Multiverse was mentioned in the movie's trailers. McKenna adds: "What we kept saying is that he had to feel like a real character, so we wanted to give him a tragic back story with all the details of coming from another world, and make sure that the Elementals he’s fighting felt like a growing, Avengers-level threat...we wanted to make it as believable as possible."
 

Outing Nick Fury As A Skrull In The Sequel's Post-Credits Scene 


In Spider-Man: Far From Home's post-credits scene, we learn that Nick Fury is actually in outer space and the version of the character we've spent the movie with is really Skrull leader Talos. 
 
According to McKenna, it was meant to explain how Fury could be fooled by Quentin Beck. 
 
"Thematically, we wanted to have as many illusions and twists as possible, and up through the end of the movie, we wanted to make you question everything you’ve seen beforehand. But it was definitely an idea that came later in the process, and it helped, because if anyone in the audience had issues with Nick Fury falling for Quentin’s nonsense, it was a nice safety valve to have."
 

How Much Did They Know About Avengers: Endgame Before Writing The Sequel?



"We were like, 'Wait, who goes away? And how do they come back?'" McKenna says in regards to how much Marvel Studios clued them in to the events of Avengers: Endgame"We didn’t actually see 'Endgame' until the premiere — maybe if we’d known more in advance, we would have made a joke about Valkyrie riding a Pegasus, because you definitely want to reference that."

"The two major things we knew were the five-year gap and the ramifications it would have for the people who did and didn’t get blipped away,
" he continued. "And, obviously, the Tony of it all."
 

Whether Tony Stark Is The "New" Uncle Ben



We know that Uncle Ben existed in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but we don't really know how he factored into Peter Parker's origin story. When the interviewer put it to the writers that the note that came with Tony Stark's glasses might as well have said "With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility," McKenna admitted that Peter's relationship with Iron Man is now just as important.
 
"The other 'Spider-Man' movies obviously dealt with Uncle Ben, and 'Homecoming' hinted at it, but you’re right: In a lot of ways, the gravitas really comes from Peter’s relationship with Tony."

Sommers adds: "It’s assumed that there probably was an Uncle Ben and the pain of that loss is lingering there, but this gave everyone the chance to create a whole new friendship between Peter and his mentor, Tony, and to deal with the loss of that, which is a very powerful, emotional event in his life."
 

Why They Decided To Reveal Spider-Man's Secret Identity To The World



"We were challenged by the producers to come up with something that Peter sacrifices by the end of this movie," McKenna explains when asked to elaborate on the decision to have Mysterio reveal to the world that Peter Parker is Spider-Man, "and when we hit upon that as a group, it became a very scary idea: 'Oh, no, we can’t do that! Then it’s not a Spider-Man movie anymore!'"
 
"It’s such a bold maneuver that it became inevitable, particularly with a tricky character like Mysterio, who’s this dark father figure," he continues. "From the grave, is he trying to give Peter his 'I’m Iron Man' moment? It’s thrust upon him, but is this a lesson or a punishment?"
 

How Spider-Man Being Framed As A Villain Changes The Hero's Future



Mysterio has managed to fool the world into believing he was a superhero murdered by the wall-crawler, and it definitely sounds like Spidey's newfound "criminal" status will be explored down the line.

"We were definitely debating, should we just reveal who Spider-Man is, or should we frame him for something and turn him into a pariah?" Sommers says. "Ultimately, we decided that both was the way to go. It’s such a triumph at the end because he’s got the girl and finally earned a big swing through the city, so we want to knock him down as far as possible."
 

Spider-Man: Far From Home's Alternate Ending



While it was always the plan for the movie to end with Peter Parker's biggest secret being revealed to the world, it sounds like an earlier version of the script saw things play out much differently.
 
"We played with the idea that Peter is the one who sacrifices his identity out of necessity during the final battle, then it seemed more interesting if Mysterio tricks him into doing it, but any time we wrote a version where he was being revealed to the world in that battle, it felt like it diminished the victory," McKenna reveals. "So before it became a tag, it was really just the end of the movie: Right as he feels he’s stepping up as Spider-Man, he has the rug pulled out from under him again."

That definitely would have been interesting, but the way it was ultimately handled was much better as it left things on a huge cliffhanger and obviously took the choice from Spider-Man.
 

Bringing Back J. Jonah Jameson

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"There had already been some interest in possibly using J.K. Simmons when we brought J. Jonah back," Sommers confirms after revealing that they've been mulling over the idea since Homecoming"so once it was decided that we were going to reveal Peter’s identity at the very end instead of the final battle, it all fell into place very naturally that J. Jonah would be involved."

McKenna then went on to talk about this new take on JJJ. "Something that had been floating through this entire movie was the idea of 'fake news' and how can you believe everything you see? We had been toying with the idea that Mysterio would turn Spider-Man into a villain, just like he did in the comic books, and it felt like that then tied into this J. Jonah 2.0 as the Alex Jones of the MCU."
 

Future Plans For TheDailyBugle.net

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Thankfully, it doesn't sound like Simmons' return will be one and done. "It’s the 'Whiplash; version!" says McKenna. "It’s a little less comic-book — we’re taking him in a slightly different direction. But we’re excited that if this continues on and we get to work on the next one, hopefully, it’ll involve a lot of J.K."

Many thanks to The New York Times for the quotes used in this article.
 
Continue reading below to see the 10 villains we
want to see in the Spider-Man: Far From Home sequel!

 

Hobgoblin

Hobgoblin


Does Marvel really want to go back down the Goblin route? The Green Goblin’s story was covered in-depth in all three of Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man movies and even factored into The Amazing Spider-Man before Harry Osborn took up the mantle in the sequel.
 
However, despite the similar look and name, the Hobgoblin is a very different kind of bad guy. A number of men have held the mantle, while the initial mystery of who was beneath the mask could make for very entertaining viewing on the big screen.
 
A successful fashion designer, Roderick Kingsley became the Hobgoblin when he discovered one of Norman Osborn’s caches of weapons, and managed to alter the Goblin formula to avoid going insane. Those ties with the Green Goblin mean that his origin story would have to be greatly retooled, but he’s worthy of a movie appearance.
 

Spider-Slayers

Spider-Slayer


J. Jonah Jameson has revealed Spider-Man's secret identity to the world, and seeing as he's now an Alex Jones-type personality on the fringes of the mainstream media, how better to prove that the wall-crawler is a "menace" than to attempt to take him out with some killer robots? 

He gave it a good go in the comic books, and while Aleister Smythe may not be as exciting on the surface as some of the other villains listed here, the Spider-Slayers would make a good secondary villain if nothing else. 

Jameson trying to take the glory for stopping Spider-Man makes perfect sense, and considering the fact that both The Vulture and Mysterio have had ties to Stark Industries, Smythe could also have history there (perhaps he was instrumental in creating the Iron Legion?). Regardless, seeing Simmons' face on one of these robots chasing after Spidey would be beyond awesome. 
 

Electro

Elector


We got to see Electro in action in The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and the results were...disastrous? The villain still has a lot of potential, though, and a comic accurate take on him would be a lot of fun.

Due to the amount of the spotlight he's received in the past, Electro would have to be a secondary bad guy on the same level as someone like Shocker, and Marvel Studios should be able to do justice to his classic yellow and green costume (and not the awful blue skin/black rubber suit combination we got back in 2014). 

Kevin Feige has said that Marvel Studios wants to move away from bad guys who got their powers in scientific accidents, but there are always ways around that, and they could even use the female Electro!
 

Jackal

Jackal


Is it too soon for The Clone Saga? One of the coolest pieces of imagery in Spider-Man: Far From Home was the wall-crawler fighting off duplicates of himself during Mysterio's illusion attack, and there's a lot Marvel Studios could do with both The Jackal and Ben Reilly. The problem is, this would be a lot to tackle in just the one movie so perhaps the slow burn approach would be best.

Miles Warren could be introduced as an ally of sorts to the wall-crawler who has an unusual fascination with his powers, and a pretty perfect mid-credits scene would be us seeing a duplicate of Peter in a containment tube. 

Then, a fourth movie could really delve into what it means for there to be "another" Spidey and even Kaine could be brought into the fold. Ultimately, Ben would die or disappear and the stage would be set for us to learn that the man funding The Jackal's operation was actually Norman Osborn!
 

Scorpion

Scorpion


Scorpion is one of Spider-Man’s classic enemies, but perhaps not as A-List as the likes of Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus. Even so, his story is perfectly suited for the big screen, especially after he made an appearance in Spider-Man: Homecoming and The Daily Bugle has been re-introduced with J.K Simmons back in the role of J. Jonah Jameson.
 
In the comics, Jonah hires private detective Mac Gargan to find out Spidey’s secret identity. When he fails, he agrees to be bonded to a suit which will grant him the abilities to take the hero down and unmask him. Unfortunately, it also drives him insane, and a vengeful Scorpion ends up targeting both Spider-Man and Jameson thanks to his newfound powers.
 
That origin would need to undergo some changes on the big screen, of course, but Jameson hiring an ex-con with a grudge against Spider-Man so he can confirm that he and Peter Parker are one and the same definitely makes sense, and would be a fun story to see play out.
 

Kraven The Hunter

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A fan-favourite choice (even with director Jon Watts), Kraven the Hunter is in desperate need of a big screen appearance. Marvel could head down any number of routes, but should go with exactly what the name implies – a hunter. He originally arrived in New the US with the goal to take out New York’s newest hero, but no doubt the best story for Marvel to adapt would be Kraven’s Last Hunt.
 
The leaked emails from the Sony Hack revealed that it is a story Sony are interested in, and we've since heard that they might be thinking about adapting it for a solo movie featuring the villain.

That tale is both critically acclaimed and loved by comic book fans, and, as we're sure you know, it takes the wall-crawler to some very dark places. With Spider-Man at his lowest ebb now that he's perceived as a villain and his identity has been outed, someone like Kraven coming along to make his life a living hell definitely seems pretty fitting!
 

Green Goblin

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We mentioned Norman Osborn earlier in this post, and while the Green Goblin has been done to death on the big screen, there are still a lot of stories that haven't been told. Marvel Studios has the opportunity to not only give the wall-crawler a powerful new enemy, but to create a "Dark Reign" over the Marvel Cinematic Universe and build to the formation of the Dark Avengers. 

We could see a monstrous version of the Goblin similar to the one in the Ultimate line of comic books, or a version who looks exactly like his comic book counterpart; either option would be something new.

The previous movies got a lot right about the Osborn family, but failed to nail every aspect of the characters, and if Marvel reveals that the spider that bit Peter was an Oscorp creation, that would immediately explain why the Green Goblin is looking to take the web-slinger down. Honestly, there's a lot that could be done with this villain that would make him feel fresh. 
 

Doctor Octopus

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He may be another bad guy we've seen before, but it's been over 15 years since Doctor Octopus made his big screen debut and after his impressive turn in the Spider-Man video game, it's clear that there's still more that could be done with Otto Octavius. 

The difficulty here is that the 2004 version was so perfect, it's hard to imagine what Marvel Studios could bring to the table that's new, so a complete reinvention of the character could be in order.

With something of an overhaul, the new Doctor Octopus could be Spidey's best big bad yet and seeing as the last version very nearly destroyed New York City, a more personal tale might be for the best. Either way, Doc Ock deserves another shot, and the Sinister Six would suffer without him. 
 

Morlun

Morlun


Morlun is not one of Stan Lee and Steve Ditko’s original creations and is a fairly new villain (he was introduced in the early 2000s when J. Michael Straczynski took over writing duties on The Amazing Spider-Man). However, despite not having decades worth of history, he’s still one of the Spidey's most powerful foes, and Peter Parker very nearly failed to survive their first encounter.
 
Mystical in nature, Morlun arrived on the scene at the time Peter discovered that his powers may be more magic than science based. He relentlessly tracked Spider-Man through New York and started murdering civilians whenever the hero managed to hide to take a rest.

With so much focus on Peter’s parents and science in The Amazing Spider-Man movies and technology being such a huge part of his MCU adventures, delving into another side of the hero's powers could be truly fascinating, and bringing in Ezekiel (who had identical abilities to Peter) would definitely open the door to some unique new storytelling possibilities. 
 

Black Cat

Black-Cat


Black Cat has flirted with being good and bad over the years, so bringing her in as an enemy of Spider-Man’s who eventually becomes one of his closes allies (and lover in the comic books) could definitely work. She’s a strong female character – something that's now a priority for superhero movies – and could be introduced in a number of ways.

One possibility is Felicia Hardy being Peter’s classmate in order to avoid the awkward age difference between them if Marvel ends up exploring their romantic feelings for each other. But now that his identity has been outed, it's just as likely that they could meet out in the world. 

Spider-Man and Black Cat have clashed many times, though he often comes out on the losing end thanks to her ability to project bad luck onto others, and while Sony is reportedly considering a spinoff movie for the character, she's arguably an individual who would benefit greatly from some more direct links to the web-slinger. 
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bobevanz
bobevanz - 7/18/2019, 3:08 AM
Stupid idea, stupid article.. next! Lol
WakandanQueen
WakandanQueen - 7/18/2019, 3:16 AM
They nailed Mysterio.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/18/2019, 5:47 AM
@WakandanQueen -
Sorta. They tried i suppose.

He was not from the practical effects background as he originally was so we dont really get the sense of someone trying to cling to a profession that is slowly being erased by the passage of time.

Him working for someone who takes credit for what he does and then wastes what he does sort of takes inspiration from the source material. He honestly felt like a re-do of Aldrich Killian.

His motivation and goals also did not really work in the established universe of the MCU. He wanted to create a hero the world could believe in by manipulating the truth - but for what goal? Other heroes exist in the MCU so he's not doing it for the sake of the population.

He's not in it for personal gain and he does not seem to want personal fame (Money, etc...) either as he fakes his own death at the end in order for him to be labelled as the 'greatest hero'

He felt underdeveloped honestly.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/18/2019, 5:57 AM
Now that i think about it along with re-reading the remark about him being a Skrull, it would have made his motivations and goal make a lot more sense. His entire character would be focused around altering and manipulating the truth.

Imagine if a Skrull could infiltrate the world with some BS backstory, create a bunch of illusions and become the most famous hero on Earth while also taking out Nick Fury (the one Earth-based person who helped Captain Marvel all those years ago) Then Captain Marvel comes back to Earth, enraged and attacks the worlds greatest hero effectively destroying her reputation and turning Earth against her.

Even if that Skrull did nothing with the title of greatest hero, the proof that they could do it would be a terrifying concept - especially if that Skrull could discover the identity of a famous hero and frame them for a crime.
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 7/18/2019, 8:01 AM
@Scarilian - He probably didn’t fake his own death... his crew (notably Peter Billingsley’s character, who is specifically shown gathering up his equipment) faked a last message from him as revenge on Spider-man for destroying their big scheme. If he did fake his own death, it was to avoid being tried and imprisoned for the rest of his life, and painting himself as the hero betrayed got a competing narrative out there that they could hopefully spread to enough believers to fan into a comeback someday.

They did want fame, fortune and respect... they spelled that out. They felt that they were all under appreciated geniuses that didn’t get a portion of the respect and renown that Stark did, so they orchestrated a way for them to gain it.
newhire13
newhire13 - 7/18/2019, 8:07 AM
@Scarilian - I interpreted it as meaning that he (and his team) were tired of being overlooked, taken advantage of, not being listened to and pretty much being in the shadows of everyone wearing a cape, despite their obviously high skill level. It’s about manipulating what everyone follows in order to get their time in the sun.
AleSir19
AleSir19 - 7/18/2019, 4:55 PM
@Scarilian - Well the thing is that the writers from Far From Home and the MCU as a whole is getting each movie less "serious and dramatic" and more "comedy satire" centric.

That doesnt mean Far From Home doesnt have this small serious moments of Peter suffering the effects of all this bad bullshit that is happening to him or Quentin seeing how everything goes to hell.

But in general Quentin whole character was a satire and a joke, but a sad one and i think it works because until this point all Spiderman villains have been taken too seriously and even grounded.

It was fun to get see something different from the really complex Raimi villains (Norman/Otto/Harry) and just (Lizard/Electro/whatever that shit goblin was).


Quentin isnt his real name, he along a group of stupid assholes who have greatness complex and feel they deserve better that what they got, come together create the whole Quentin Beck warrior from another earth story...

And this whole thing alredy comes just from the comicbooks, this again is the core element from Mysterio, he is a guy who wants glory, who wanted to be the hero and believes he deserves, while other heroes dont.

It is classic arc and this way Far From Home feels straight out of a comic book.

Mysterio using a Mo-Cap suit and creating his illussions with VFX tech honor the comicbook character origins.

While the whole scene and aspect of how they rehearse the tricks and prepare the stuff is just fun to watch.

At the end Quentin is an actor searching glory and power, in this movie they capture that, a guy who is so down the rabbit hole of his own lies he doesnt seen to understand how crazy he is.

That is why i think it works.

Vulture needed to be sad and grounded for it to work, Mysterio needed to be silly and fun and amazing to watch.

I just want Kraven to be obsessed with winning

WaffeX
WaffeX - 7/18/2019, 3:18 AM
the final fight was so amazing, my favorite scene is when spidey was in the snow globe
Saga
Saga - 7/18/2019, 3:28 AM
Worst idea ever, thank God it was scrapped
Origame
Origame - 7/18/2019, 4:05 AM
@Saga - still better than making mysterio another genius guy with business ties to stark industries screwed over by tony or his dad. At least this is original.
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 7/18/2019, 3:56 AM
So it wasn’t really a “version of the movie” so much as an idea they spitballed when they started talking about the character.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 7/18/2019, 4:19 AM
I'm not sure what the long term plan is for the Skrulls (if there is one), but it's kind of remarkable that right now the audience has basically accepted them as a harmless joke. It could become so much of a gut-punch to see them do a Secret Invasion and all of a sudden shapeshifting aliens is not a joke anymore.

It's kind of the way it happened in the comics. Here are these goofy aliens that Mr. Fantastic hypnotized into thinking they were cows, ha ha hah, oh shit there are [frick]ing sleeper cells in every book.
MultiMedia996
MultiMedia996 - 7/18/2019, 5:16 AM
@Spock0Clock - Maybe Talos and his crew are just one faction and we'll see the Skrull Queen and learn the rest of them are no better then the Kree.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/18/2019, 5:30 AM
@MultiMedia996 -
The young Skrull in Captain Marvel, who was told she had nice eyes, is almost certainly going to become Veranke as leader of the rebel Skrulls who attempt to invade Earth.

Personally i think they are rushing things a bit at this point, they are scared of making a universe without a main goal so they are shoving in several.

• Time Travel is still a thing so they can adapt Kang (Harley Keener/Ty Simpkins) or do a Time Travel plotline
• Alternate realities/timelines are now a thing thanks to the plot hole of Captain America
• We have Adam Warlock turning up in Guardians 3 and potentially Thor 4
• The Sinister Six is still being established and Mysterio obviously is not dead
• Spider-man's identity being revealed is a clear set-up to the Dark Reign storyline where Norman would rise to power and establish a group to take down the Avengers
• Skrulls are being shoved into movies with no reason other than a joke in order to make it established that anyone can be a Skrull

They need a clear goal and they simply dont have one, so they want to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks.
LongMayHeReign
LongMayHeReign - 7/18/2019, 6:07 AM
@Scarilian - Right because showing Fury in a giant space station fully equipped with a Skrull crew has no purpose other than being a joke and can't possibly be hinting at something. Yup you've definitely solved the case on that one.
Brave
Brave - 7/18/2019, 10:47 AM
@Spock0Clock -
"It's kind of the way it happened in the comics. Here are these goofy aliens that Mr. Fantastic hypnotized into thinking they were cows, ha ha hah, oh shit there are [frick]ing sleeper cells in every book."

Frshcoupe
Frshcoupe - 7/18/2019, 4:36 AM
They better have a long term plan for the Skrulls. And I better see Super Skrull in the future. This would’ve been a stupid idea for so many different reasons. They need to establish an evil skrull here or there with some bad intentions first then slowly start showing that they’ve got sleeper cells wandering around.
Guess we can possibly find out if we’ll get that on Saturday when Marvel lets us know what their plans are.
SuperCat
SuperCat - 7/18/2019, 4:55 AM
"How many distractions can we get away with before people want to murder us? [The Mysterio skrull reveal] was an early idea about why he was doing everything he was doing..."

Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 7/18/2019, 5:11 AM
While it does also play into Mysterios deception and could have been interesting I'm happy they went the direction they did, cause they got Mysterio perfect in this version, literally couldn't ask for a better Beck. Looks and performance wise. He's up there with Doc Ock and Vulture.





BigPhilbowski
BigPhilbowski - 7/18/2019, 5:19 AM
@Mrcool210 - what's with the obsession with doc Oc from spidey2? He's terrible in that movie. He's got cap level strength for some reason and for a genius he makes some really dumb decisions. Hey there's that Peter Parker kid I need to talk to. Better throw a car at him. That'll help.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/18/2019, 5:32 AM
@BigPhilbowski -
Peter was losing his powers, which is the excuse for why he somehow seemed so strong in fights against Peter. In other aspects i felt like the tentacles were meant to be controlling him. People can do a lot of things easily when they are adrenaline filled.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 7/18/2019, 5:46 AM
@BigPhilbowski

“Hey there's that Peter Parker kid I need to talk to. Better throw a car at him. That'll help.”

Hey, the one “flaw” everyone’s been parroting about Spider-Man 2. 0/10, terrible Spider-Man movie. #NotMySpider-Man
BigPhilbowski
BigPhilbowski - 7/18/2019, 10:10 AM
@regularmovieguy - you know well that's not the only flaw. It's just the easiest to pick out and one of the dumbest
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 7/18/2019, 10:22 AM
@BigPhilbowski

Pretty small nitpick lmao

You’re admitting you’re picking at low hanging fruit 😂
MultiMedia996
MultiMedia996 - 7/18/2019, 5:18 AM
The only reason they had the Kree destroy the Skrull home planet was because they didn't have Galactus yet. That's the only reason. The Skrulls are just as bad as the Kree. This kind of makes the conflict more black and white.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/18/2019, 5:41 AM
@MultiMedia996 -
"The only reason they had the Kree destroy the Skrull home planet was because they didn't have Galactus yet."

The problem is that the writer of Captain Marvel wanted the Skrull to be an allegory for immigration and convince people to sympathise with that cause. It's an attempt at propoganda on the most basic level. A black & white conflict where one side is entirely evil and the other is entirely good.

As such they presented a very idealised view of immigration. Everyone who is an immigrant is a good guy (Skrull) fleeing from people who are entirely bad (Kree).

Every action the good guys (Skrull) take, even if it looks evil (Kidnapping and torturing Captain Marvel, Killing Kree civilians) is actually for the 'greater good'.

Ways exist to fix this, but it'd just make the first Captain Marvel movie look even weaker as a result because you'd need to add actual character development which the first movie was afraid of doing.

It should be a very 'grey' conflict where nobody is entirely good or entirely evil - which would make Carol's story more tricky as she has to deal with the world not being as simple as 'kill Thanos' or 'Kree Good, Skrull evil' or 'Skrull evil, Kree Good' or 'Supreme intelligence bad' which is all her character has really had to deal with.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 7/18/2019, 5:38 AM
What a RIDICULOUS IDEA but it sounds like they were just tossing what ifs around and this was never going to turn into anything.
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 7/18/2019, 6:04 AM
Goddamn am I glad some of you aren't writers.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 7/18/2019, 6:17 AM
@Reeds2Much - The degree of headassery in this comment section is next level
NightBoyWonder
NightBoyWonder - 7/18/2019, 6:45 AM
@Reeds2Much - there’s some serious Straight to DVD tier pitches being thrown in this comment section.
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