FANTASTIC FOUR: Jake Gyllenhaal Rumored To Be Marvel's First Choice For Reed Richards

@lazlodaytona - id imagine Krasinski isn't someone who wants to attach himself to a franchise like the mcu for 10 years, so he settled for a cameo.

@vectorsigma - I mean, not really.

The variants tend to have the same face. The only exception is when the variant is based on age or is specifically being made into something else, like boastful loki or alligator loki.

The only way based on their rules a variant can have the same face is if this isn't Reed Richard's but a Quentin beck variant who's the Mr fantastic of this universe. And that also means you'd have to make this fantastic four from another universe, and it'd just be so much to justify an actor when there are plenty of good ones to choose.

@Origame - I get your logic, but I don't think the MCU has a hard set rule when it comes to variants. Weren't Toby and Andrew and Tom Holland all variants, and they were all different people.

@Origame - Or Beck wasn't using his real face. The movie debunks that and Parker would have recognized a famous scientist regardless of time frame.

@Origame - It would make sense that all variants looked mostly the same, but it's not what Marvel Studios are doing, Maguire and Garfield look nothing like Holland, the actress playing Sylvie looks nothing like Hiddleston, the next actors playing Wolverine or Charles Xavier will probably look very different to Jackman and Stewart.

I could accept these differences if it was explained that for different reasons in some parts of the multiverse people in different timelines look similar because those timelines are closer to each others somehow, meaning that in certain parts of the multiverse there are tons of timelines with Peter Parker variants that look like Garfield, and that besides him there are Mays that look like Sally Field or Gwens that look like Emma Stone, for example.

In the timelines "close" to the MCU most Peter Parker variants would look like Holland, and MJ would look like Zendaya, and May would look like Tomei, while in the timelines where Parker looks like Maguire, Osborn look like Dafoe, etc...

But then Jameson looks like Simmons in the main MCU timeline and in the old Maguire movies, so idk, because if Xavier looked like Patrick in the MoM Illuminati timeline, where everybody else seemed to look like the MCU actors we saw before in the main timeline, that should mean that all the X-Men in the MCU main timeline should also look like the Foxmen actors, and that the main MCU Reed Richards should also look like Krasinski.

It could be argued that if the TVA didn't intervene there would be infinite timelines with infinite possibilities and all the potential variants could be in one or another timeline, meaning there could be a Maguire Parker variant in a timeline where everybody else looked like the MCU actors for some reason, same way there is a Jameson that looks like Simmons in the main timeline, every "actor" or variant could be present in any timeline with different variants looking very different.

Not sure if I'm explaining it very well, but I mean that infinite timelines could mean infinite possibilities, there could be timelines where every character looked like Robert Downey Jr, or timelines where Thor looks like Hugh Jackman, or timelines where the Human Torch looks like Chris Evans...

That would mean there could be a timeline where both Mysterio and Reed Richards look the same, but why does Marvel Studios need to make this all so complicated and confusing? Why couldn't they just bring Krasinski back or could not have cast someone for MoM that could have returned later for the FF movie?

And why couldn't they introduce the main timeline X-Men before introducing the Foxmen variants?

Why couldn't they just make that all variants looked similar, which would make more sense and would be easier to understand, and forget about cameos from the past non MCU movies?

That all Peter Parker looked similar to Holland, maybe older, maybe younger, maybe with more or less hair, but same actor, like we have seen in so many other multiverse stories.

But they wanted the multiverse cameos to sell tickets, and imo they've kind of ruined the MCU, making it unnecessarily confusing and introducing old cameo variants before the proper MCU versions, that's a HUGE mistake, most people will think that Xavier and Logan in the MCU should look like Jackman and Stewart, when they bring someone else most people will wonder who are those guys and where the f*ck are Jackman and Stewart, same way people will wonder why the new Reed doesn't look like Krasinski when everybody else in the Illuminati timeline looked like people in the main MCU timeline.

Marvel Studios are f*cking up big time with this and with everything else (writing, etc).

It's a shame because up until the end of phase 3 there were different levels of quality for each movie but everything formed a consistent and very well made fictional universe, but now everything is just a big mess.

@Origame - reading is fundamental

@FireandBlood -

If they age him up, remove the beard, and add the gray, he’ll look different enough

@lazlodaytona -

Bill Hader or Jon Hamm for main 616 Reed, and Eddie Redmayne or Joseph Gordon Levitt for Ultimate 1610 Maker,but I also enjoyed Krasinski's take in DSitMoM.

@DrReedRichards - I still think they should use Miles Teller as Maker. Using that movie as ultimate FF would nicely parallel their decision to go nuts with Ultimate Reed after the disaster that was the Ultimate FF comic.

@DrReedRichards - haha but that's the point, I felt the same way about the Ultimate FF comic.

@DrReedRichards - Yeah, I was always so fascinated how Maker, one of my favorite characters, had the roots that he did. The idea of doing that in the movies seems interesting to me if they could pulled it off. But it is true that that movie should never again be watched by a human.

@Timerider - dude. I'd be all over that! good call. and I love Amazon's UPLOAD!

@CorndogBurglar - They gotta tap into that sci-fi weirdness they have been with Loki and with chest. Last thing FF needs to be is a generic superhero movie

@FireandBlood, @CorndogBurglar -

Don't know if y'all remember, but last time someone tried to tap into the sci-fi weirdness of classic F4, we got Quantumania.

Say what you will about that thing (definition of mid IMHO), but it was raw F4 family sci-fi shenanigans in all the right (and wrong) ways.

@DrReedRichards - Thats true, but I also don't think that's the reason Ant Man 3 failed.

I think it was just poorly written and did the villain dirty.

To do the first F4 movie "differently", I've always liked the idea that they've been trapped in the Negative Zone this whole time. We don't need to see their origin again. But show them "returning" to the MCU for the first time. Have Annihilus as the villain, following them into our world, and go from there.

Make them explorers from the get-go.

@CorndogBurglar - Johnny Storm is literally one of the "coolest" characters in Marvel. It's one of the first words anyone would use to describe his character.

@FireandBlood - and what thf is "a$$-water? :D