Could the Green Goblin Resurrect Spider-Man 4?

Could the Green Goblin Resurrect Spider-Man 4?

Willem Dafoe says he wouldn't mind returning to play Spider-Man's iconic nemesis.

By multipurposeponi - Jan 07, 2010 02:01 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man
Source: MTV Splash Page



My favorite Spider-Man casting choice so far has been Willem Dafoe as the legendary Norman Osborn. With the exception of the infamous 'Power Ranger' suit, I think his portrayal was spot on. His role in the original Spider-Man definitely helped solidify director Sam Raimi's standing in the eyes of fans.

With the current production issues surrounding Spider-Man 4, could the return of the Green Goblin benefit the project? Mr. Dafoe thinks there's definitely room for his character to come back into the web head life:

"It all depends on the story," he said of the likelihood we'll see him again. "The Green Goblin. . there's plenty more to do, because that's not so well defined. And the Norman Osborn character is a good, solid, half-comic, half-dramatic character, so I could always revisit that."

He went on to say, "I like Sam Raimi. I read today that it might get pushed a little bit because they're fighting about screenplay issues, but who knows, who knows..."

I've been spreading around my ideas for a Green Goblin return for a few months now. Though the majority of CBM users hope for a Lizard/Kraven/Spidey trifecta, I believe that the green meanie is exactly the villain that Spider-Man 4 needs to tie up loose ends and begin a new trilogy. . . as long as they get the costume right this time.



What do you guys think?


*I didn't include the obvious fan favorite Lizard/Kraven option because. . . well. . it's pretty obvious that's what most fans want.




Information and video courtesy of MTV
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StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 1/7/2010, 2:36 PM
this movie is over for now IMO. So it's no use thinking about it.

But for the record, I really like Mr. DaFoe, even as The Green Power Ranger. I didn't even mind the suit lol
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 1/7/2010, 2:36 PM
I thought we just had news SPIDEY 4 was out???

Knew that was BS lol.

Great article @ MULTI!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 1/7/2010, 2:37 PM
Oh and......

THE LIZARD and KRAVEN is a must!!

DogsOfWar
DogsOfWar - 1/7/2010, 2:39 PM
Good article Multi! There is too much money to be made. Spidey might get delayed but it will come out in the near future.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 1/7/2010, 2:43 PM
The Green Goblin is my favourite Spider-Man villain and although I'd like to see the movie version of the character return, I'd much prefer to see some new villains...any of Stan Lee and Steve Ditko's classic creations would be fine by me!!
antz1104
antz1104 - 1/7/2010, 2:44 PM
As long as they give him a new costume, I think the goblin returning would be GREAT. Willem Dafoe did a kickass Norman.
Makiveli21
Makiveli21 - 1/7/2010, 2:45 PM
Go read Neros fanfic Spidey4 story to see exactly how Norman fits into the Kraven/Lizard storyline. Its Brilliant!!!
Sinestrosarcasm
Sinestrosarcasm - 1/7/2010, 2:45 PM
Will Smith for Kraven!!!
DogsOfWar
DogsOfWar - 1/7/2010, 2:47 PM
Sinestro-Nice!

Usher for Spider-Man!
Denn1s
Denn1s - 1/7/2010, 2:52 PM
he is the green goblin..with or without the mask. he is an amazing actor...
RockNRollCC
RockNRollCC - 1/7/2010, 2:56 PM
DoubleG says YES!





@sinestro NOO!
JonF
JonF - 1/7/2010, 2:57 PM
As I've stated before, the whole problem with this franchise stems from a lack of nuturing. If Sony would invest in multi-picture deals and secure the players first, many plot issues could be alleviated, or even better, eliminated altogether!

For example: John Jameson. It should have been planned from the start to have one of Spidey's science teachers experimenting with a new substance that would react to human emotion. This teacher has his funding cut off and secretly smuggles the material onto Jameson's shuttle, feeling that exposure to extraterrsetial environs would embue it with the needed extra power. When Jameson returns with the stowaway in tow, the substance has been altered and becomes evil. If this idea were used in either the first or second film, we would have had a logical and suspenseful build to Venom by the fourth film! Then everyone would be glad to see him show up, as the anticipation would have everyone on the edge of their seats!

Now, we have a similar situation with the Lizard, yet it appears that Dr. Connors was never intended to be used as a villain!! This is the crap that has got to stop!

How can Sony be so short-sighted as to not know that the Spider-Man flicks would be a HUGE franchise!?! This is all the more reason why Marvel needs to get the rights to Spidey back, and FAST!!! Raimi isn't the problem; it's the overall philosophies and methodology being used to make these films! The only goal that Sony has in sight is improving their bottom line! What we need are filmmakers that see making these pictures as a labor of love, rather than as a financial pursuit! I believe we have that in Raimi, but far better planning is needed if we are to continue with this!
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 1/7/2010, 2:57 PM
Denn1s@ yeah man i totally i agree. he's the only reason i havent cried out "reboot" i want him back
punisher23
punisher23 - 1/7/2010, 2:59 PM
I'd want the Lizard/Kraven storyline more than any other for Spiderman 4, but I would take the return of goblin rather than the vulture crap that could very well ruin Spiderman 4
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 1/7/2010, 3:04 PM
Defoe has said this before. I would love to see him return.

Multi: I actually like that idea alot, I would watch that movie and love it.
DeMoNaSsDiZ
DeMoNaSsDiZ - 1/7/2010, 3:05 PM
multi@ ah, now that would be
one helluva movie
but alas sony is a pile of douche syrup
they won't do anything that makes sense
just something that will make $$$
boo!
RockNRollCC
RockNRollCC - 1/7/2010, 3:08 PM
@multi- sounds good considering Bruce Cambell might have a bigger roll (hope it is mysterio) in next movie.

although id like to see Lizard/Kraven, and seeing is that Carnage might be in venom spinoff, mysterio/return of gobln might sound better, and leave SM5 and 6 with lizard, kraven, and then goblin again for the end.
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 1/7/2010, 3:09 PM
If anyone votes for the Black Cat/Vulture storyline, wait, nah, no one is that stupid... ;)
massfable3
massfable3 - 1/7/2010, 3:14 PM
i think that he should make an apperance in the next movie a short cameo that will put in a chance for him to be in more movies latter on like show him in his office or walking past peter parker in the street something like that
Sinestrosarcasm
Sinestrosarcasm - 1/7/2010, 3:14 PM
@ Multi - Consider Screenwriting before they run with some crap story and we have an even worse part 4 then part 3.
jimthefan
jimthefan - 1/7/2010, 3:19 PM
multi- i agree with u totally on the fact that they need to fix the mess they made in this movie and to have a awsome story like the lizard kraven bein mixed up with some mj peter aunt may drama crap. i dont know if mysterio should be the villain for something like that though even mysterio 2 much origin to just be thrown in there i think if they were to have norm come back at the end a proper villain that wouldent need a origin story or much explaining at all, like a shocker,rhino, or scorpion could work for something like that
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 1/7/2010, 3:22 PM
TYLER @ Lol! : D

ANIL @ [frick] CARNAGE, he needs to be in the VENOM spin off dude!!
jimthefan
jimthefan - 1/7/2010, 3:23 PM
i dont agree with coming back from the dead either but norman was so good i wouldent mind him comming back. they need to use j.j more (im drawing a blank on his name right now) but they should use him in a way to hunt down spidey through scorpion or something
Timerider84
Timerider84 - 1/7/2010, 3:27 PM
I think they should make Spider-man 4 a two part movie, much like Harry Potter 7. This way you have time to introduce the Lizard, he can get with Black Cat, and towards the end Kraven the Hunter comes in. The second part(Spider-man 5) can open 7-8 months later and finish the story.

Why try and tell a story in a little over 2 hrs. Why not take 4 hrs. You can finish up all the stories (Lizard, Kraven, Black Cat) within 4 hrs and get a fulfilling screenplay, something you would like to buy when it hits dvd/blu-ray, something you would want to watch all the time. I say make this story two parts, too many characters in a little amount of time will fail. Just look at Spidey 3. Spidey 5 could have a sub plot and revive all of his enemies, thanks to Mysterio. Or just have Mysterio and Scorpion for part 6
jimthefan
jimthefan - 1/7/2010, 3:29 PM
osborne can use j.j as a pawn to get threw peter at the end of the film osborne comes out so we can see he still alive but dont have him get back into the goblin outfit in the 4th
batfan39
batfan39 - 1/7/2010, 3:33 PM
Enough of the Goblins!!!! Wasn't the 3rd one bad enough dancing around Harry?

There's more to Spidey that Green Goblin... (Yes, they have BOTH come back from the dead a bunch of times but this is too soon)
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 1/7/2010, 3:37 PM
MULTI: Not a fan of that idea to be honest. Mysterio isnt that interesting a villain and I really think it would be a waste of a movie to kill Gwen (we've had MJ in danger for 3 movies, I wouldnt want to see the same happen with Gwen - I'd rather she be his romantic interest in this movie and then kill her off in the 5th or 6th if they decide to bring back Osborn then) and bring back an old character rather than introducing some new villains!

I'm all for seeing Norman come back as the Green Goblin but I'd rather they do it in the backround of 4 & 5 and then maybe have him behind the Sinister Six in the sixth movie! I'd like to see...

Spider-Man 4: Lizard/Kraven

Spider-Man 5: Scorpion/Electro

Spider-Man 6: Sinister Six (with a slightly different roster of Green Goblin, Lizard, Kraven, Electro, Scorpion and possibly a minor villain like Mysterio who could be introduced in the sixth movie which I would like to see split into two as they're doing with the next Potter movie)
KeithM
KeithM - 1/7/2010, 3:39 PM
I didn't vote because I don't want to see either of these ideas for Spidey 4. There should ALWAYS be a "none of the above/something else" option in these polls.

While I'm on the subject, where is the option for:
* Don't care either way as long as it isn't Carnage.

Would I like to see Dafoe return, somehow? Yes - Norman's an important figure in the Marvel Universe (oh wait...). But not for 4. They need to recover from 3 first before throwing our WTFometers into the red again - and as interesting as it might be, bringing Norman back from the dead straight after the mess that 3 was is probably not the best idea. They need something relatively safe this time around (in WTFness terms at least, not in terms of story).
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 1/7/2010, 3:40 PM
Spider-Man 4: Lizard/Kraven

Spider-Man 5: Scorpion/Electro

Spider-Man 6: Sinister Six

I give you [frick] YES to that!!!
Infallible
Infallible - 1/7/2010, 3:41 PM
Screw it! Just redo Spidey 3 the way it should have been. With all the rebooting going on these days it should be no big deal to just say that travesty never happened and redo the whole Sandman/Venom story. Have Goblin Jr. make a stand and get iced which will clear the path for Daddy Goblin to make a return. If it's done right a Venom spin-off won't be necessary. The movie after this one could be an all out Spidey/venom fest leaving the Lizard, Kraven and Daddy Goblin's return the follow up.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 1/7/2010, 3:44 PM
LEE: Hell yeah man!!! What kind of Spider-Man fan wouldnt want to see The Sinister Six come to life on the big screen? Just imagine how epic it would be!! :D
jimthefan
jimthefan - 1/7/2010, 3:47 PM
spidy 4- mj leaves to persue her acting career
gwen isent even mentioned

felica comes into play (just as felicia no remote sign of her being black cat at all...yet

j.j hasent had any good news spidy has just been rollin around taking care of the city, this inspires j.j to find out who spidy is

j.j gets help from a certain someone who tells j.j he will give him everything he needs to capture and un-mask spidy but in return he also has to kill him

j.j gets everything he needs and creates the scorpion

doc conners comes up with a amazing breakthough in science to re-grow lost limbs with reptile d.n.a, he wants to share his discovery and go over it with him but peter shrugs him off and cant give him the time of day

scorpion has a few more run ins with spidey

the end of the movie scorpion finds out he cant take of the outfit freaks out and destroys the daily bugal and runs out, j.j now worred about gargen opening his mouth j.j putting him in the suit. j.j embarresed to ask spidey for help calls apon the best hunter he can find

conners grows his arm every1 is thrilled of his accomplishments movie ends


jimthefan
jimthefan - 1/7/2010, 3:50 PM
sinister six as cool as it would be it would never work

spidy 4- scorpion
spidy 5- kraven - lizard
spidy 6 greengoblin and gargens venom
Superman4
Superman4 - 1/7/2010, 3:57 PM
I don't understand why people complain about his costume. I'm fine with it it looks allot better then the comic book one would look on screen
Superman4
Superman4 - 1/7/2010, 3:59 PM
I don't understand why people complain about his costume. I'm fine with it it looks allot better then the comic book one would look on screen
TheDemonHunter
TheDemonHunter - 1/7/2010, 4:02 PM
Amazing how many people are willing to throw Raimi under the bus for SM3 and then come up with even worse ideas for more sequels here....
jimthefan
jimthefan - 1/7/2010, 4:02 PM
or because i like electro alot scrap green goblin coming back all together just have j.j.j fund the scorpion on 4 and intrudes max to replace harrys shoes for the next 3 films and have dillian become electro in 6
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 1/7/2010, 4:09 PM
JOSH @ You got that right bro!!!

EPIC!
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