MADAME WEB: Sony's Sequel/Franchise Hopes Dashed As Movie's ACTUAL Budget Is Revealed

MADAME WEB: Sony's Sequel/Franchise Hopes Dashed As Movie's ACTUAL Budget Is Revealed

Sony Pictures was hoping that Madame Web would kick-start a new franchise, but the movie's underwhelming box office debut, abysmal reviews and actual budget make a sequel highly unlikely.

By MarkCassidy - Feb 19, 2024 11:02 AM EST
Filed Under: Madame Web

Sony Pictures' plan to forge ahead with its own cinematic universe comprised of Spider-Man characters the studio still holds the rights to always seemed like a strange decision, but the SSU (formerly known as SPUMC) did get off to a pretty good start with the Venom movies.

The Tom Hardy-led antihero adventures weren't particularly popular with critics, but they did perform very well at the box office, giving Sony the confidence to move forward with projects such as Morbius, Madame Web, and the upcoming Kraven the Hunter.

Morbius may not have been the hit Sony was hoping for (though it did go on to take in $170M worldwide), but Madame Web is giving the studio major cause for concern.

The movie opened on Valentine's Day to abysmal reviews (it currently sits at 13% on Rotten Tomatoes), and ended up taking in just $26.2M in North America over the course of its first six days in theaters.

“On Wednesday night, you could actually watch advance purchase sales declining in real time as buyers were refunding their tickets,” A theatrical chain insider tells THR. “It really says something when you’d rather have Shazam! 2 numbers.”

Sony was hoping Madame Web would be the start of a new franchise, but the chances of even one sequel being greenlit is somewhere between slim and none (and Slim's left town).

“I don’t know if women are enough to carry the box office here,” another source notes. “We are in transition when it comes to superhero movies. I don’t know how big that transition is or what the other side looks like. It may be fewer movies, but bigger brands. Sony is willing to take some risk but also wants home runs — that’s good. And if [Sony’s upcoming Spider-Man Universe title] Kraven is a gigantic hit, the narrative could be completely different. So it’s too early to know the outcome.”

The current mood on the Sony lot is said to be "gloomy," and with good reason. Despite previous reports placing Madame Web's budget at around $80 million, it's actually believed to be closer to "the low $100 million range."

In addition to Kraven, a third Venom movie slated for Nov. 8, 2024. These movies could well prove to be box office successes and turn things around, but if not, one has to assume that the SSU will be on its last legs.

"'Meanwhile, in another universe...'" reads the official synopsis, "In a switch from the typical genre, Madame Web tells the standalone origin story of one of Marvel publishing's most enigmatic heroines." "The suspense-driven thriller stars Dakota Johnson as Cassandra Webb, a paramedic in Manhattan who may have clairvoyant abilities. Forced to confront revelations about her past, she forges a relationship with three young women destined for powerful futures...if they can all survive a deadly present."

S.J. Clarkson, who also helmed Marvel’s Jessica Jones and The Defenders, directs from a script by Matt Sazama, Kerem Sazama and Burk Sharpless. Adam Merims executive produced.

Do you plan on seeing Madame Web on the big screen, or at all? Drop us a comment down below.

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Vigor
Vigor - 2/19/2024, 11:53 AM
I would like there to be a deep editorial into Sony. What are they doing over there
OleBobbyTiger
OleBobbyTiger - 2/19/2024, 12:30 PM
@Vigor - Sony simply assumes audiences will eat up anything related to Marvel and Spiderman. Regardless of how bad the story is. They're egos are so inflated they are out of touch with what makes a good story, they don't watch their own movies, and they just simply don't care about the quality of the productions they produce, they simply think producing them alone will print money. If they were an automobile maker, they would be Tesla. Also theey have to produce a movie, good or bad, every 3-ish years or they lose the rights to Spidey.
abd00bie
abd00bie - 2/19/2024, 6:35 PM
@Vigor - Tom Rothman lol the guy who messed up X-Men 3
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 2/19/2024, 11:54 AM
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 2/19/2024, 12:20 PM
@harryba11zack - Not just the men, but the women, and the children hated this movie!
tylerzero
tylerzero - 2/19/2024, 12:48 PM
@Feralwookiee -

bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/19/2024, 11:57 AM
It's probably more than 100m, they're trying to act like they aren't the dumbest movie studio in Hollywood
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 2/19/2024, 11:58 AM
What are the odds Kraven goes the way of Coyote vs ACME?
santoanderson
santoanderson - 2/19/2024, 11:58 AM
“The low $100 million range."

Sony out here just stepping on a field full of rakes.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 2/19/2024, 12:00 PM
"The current mood on the Sony lot is said to be "gloomy,"

Sony put virtually zero effort into making movies that are clearly horrible at a conceptual level, and then they get sad when no one watches them? How Sway?
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 2/19/2024, 12:11 PM
@OmegaDaGrodd - Similar delusion / arrogance that (per rumors) had Disney internally believing Quantumania would be beloved and insanely popular.
elcapitan
elcapitan - 2/20/2024, 9:43 PM
@EskimoJ - same delusion that came over James Gunn when he called The Flash the best superhero movie ever.
BeNice123
BeNice123 - 2/19/2024, 12:00 PM
They got money to spend. Let them continue down this path of stupidity and hopefully somewhere down the line they change for the good of mankind and comics.
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 2/19/2024, 12:02 PM
Imagine wishing you did as well as Shazam fury of the gods.
PapaSpank54
PapaSpank54 - 2/19/2024, 12:04 PM
Venom was lukewarm lightning in a bottle. Neither were great but they were competent, entertaining (not sure how much of that entertainment factor was intentional but hey) and had enough of the Venom sauce to please me as a Venom fan. I wouldn't hate Sony doing solo movies for Spidey villains and characters, but like, competently? Hopefully this failure makes them either rethink their approach or just give up the ghost.
dracula
dracula - 2/19/2024, 12:04 PM
Assuming it has the usual around 50% drop from week to week, it wont even make a hundred mill for over a month

Considering nobody knows these characters and the bad word of mouth, im betting it will drop worst then 50% and will eventually be pulled from theaters
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