EDITORIAL: How Spider-Man Can Fit Into the MCU

EDITORIAL: How Spider-Man Can Fit Into the MCU

Well, if recent news articles are to be believed, Spider-Man will be coming to the Marvel Cinematic Universe and Marvel Studios and SONY will be working together, to some degree, to create the future Spider-Man reboot and sequels. The first time we will see Spider-Man in a team setting is supposedly May 1, 2018. But, how will his solo film(s) come into the Marvel Cinematic Universe?

Editorial Opinion
By TheDarman - Jan 14, 2015 12:01 PM EST
The first thing to say, if this is true, is that it really is a shame that Sony and Marvel couldn't make the deal before Captain America: Civil War came to us in 2016. Spider-Man, having been so crucial to the storyline, being absent, feels wrong to me. But, even so, Civil War provides a fantastic launchpad to new characters within the universe. At least, that is what Marvel seems to be doing.



With Doctor Strange slated to make his big screen debut mere months after the third solo film for our beloved Captain America, it seems, to me, that Captain America's third outing will provide the ground work for more and more superheroes to appear and make themselves known. This leads me to believe that this will be where we will see the after-credits scene of Peter being bit by the spider. This works, at least for me, on so many levels. One level is obviously that it teases Spider-Man as a new property, yet again. Second, and more importantly, it uses his origin so that we don't have to revisit it. This, also, answers the question as to why Spider-Man never showed up before in any of the other films. He simply wasn't Spider-Man yet. And, this way, when his first film comes out, it'll already have been quite some time between the origin and his official big screen debut.



Given Marvel's current slate, I would make the first Spider-Man in their film universe come out on June 16, 2017. This gives Marvel some breathing room between their Guardians of the Galaxy sequel (May 5, 2017) and Thor: Ragnarok (July 28, 2017). It is also, still, a prime release date and places it right in the middle of the summer. Now, I don't think we can entirely get away from an origin type story for Spider-Man in this film. I don't mean that we revisit Spider-Man's origin but, rather, that we see Spider-Man really rising to prominence in this film past just being a street level hero. I believe that, in order to do that, we need to start Spider-Man out as a street level hero, no different than Daredevil. I would separate him from Daredevil a little bit so give him a different crime lord than the Kingpin. I would probably do Tombstone (as I loved what they did with him in The Spectacular Spider-Man). Now, this really begins to enter into fan fiction territory and fan casting as we have already established how Marvel could do this logically (again, Sony will likely be in "creative control" but without Arad and Feige serving as Producer along with the Russos, which makes the scheduling more practical as it isn't being developed, primarily, by Marvel).



I know it has been said a million times but I'll say it again: Logan Lerman would be a fantastic choice for Spider-Man. Sure, if you've seen the Percy Jackson movies, you can really see how weak he can be. However, if you look at Perks of Being A Wallflower, Lerman can be an extremely strong actor. It also doesn't hurt that Logan Lerman was practically Peter Parker in that film and could transition easily from that role to Peter Parker. Given that, he also has a baby face and can look really young. If they shoot in 2016, Lerman would likely still look young enough to portray a sixteen year old (my ideal age as it will be a year into Spider-Man's established crime fighting career). Again, I think Peter should have two friends in Gwen Stacy (AnnaSophia Robb) and Harry Osborn (I don't know). This will allow us to take a break from the love interest thing but also have a present female in Peter's life, essentially ready to go for him. Now, we can get into the story.



Before we start off, yes, I totally want the Ultimate Spider-Man costume, in all its tic-shaped spider glory coming to the big screen. It'll help differentiate it from previous costumes and symbols but still retain that spirit. Plus, regardless of how we feel about the movie, The Amazing Spider-Man 2 had a damn near perfect costume. Alright, now we will get onto the film.

Tombstone is the leading crime boss in New York City following Daredevil's escapades and the vacancies of power left by him (yes, we can even reference Daredevil as a cheap plug for the Netflix show). Peter's uncle, Ben Parker, had been killed under his regime. Much like in the second volume of Ultimate Spider-Man, Peter revisits the criminal underworld after finding the I.D. he took off his uncle's killer the day he caught him. This leads Peter to the Enforcers, who, when beaten, reveal that they work for Tombstone. Peter realizes that he can catch the big fish and goes after Tombstone. However, Tombstone was smarter than Kingpin was, in that he enlisted superhuman help to counteract superhuman interference. Sandman, Flink Marko, is the first supervillain that Peter has ever run into and Sandman proves to be too much for Peter to take down. Peter is forced to flee. Much like in the second volume of Ultimate Spider-Man, Gwen and Peter do a sort of dance on the side about going to a movie but Peter finds himself too occupied to go to the movie with Gwen. Also, throughout the movie, Aunt May is trying to get Peter out there again (as he became secluded after Ben's death) and wants him to meet Mary Jane Watson. Peter refuses to do so throughout the film, stating that he is perfectly fine.



Peter, also, already has the job at the Daily Bugle where he works as both a photographer and a web designer for the newspaper. Through the newspaper, Peter is handed information on how Tombstone's building is being upgraded with a new secruity program. Peter uses this information to understand how the secruity program works and realizes that he can gather evidence on Tombstone's wrongdoings. As Peter devotes himself to this research and his after school job, we start to see that his grades are slipping in his classes. This will provide the conflict with school and being a superhero that we really didn't see other than in the best one, Spider-Man 2. Peter is able to figure out about the recording software and breaks into the tower again as Spider-Man. Sandman reforms but Spider-Man manages to set off a smoke alarm, making it difficult for Marko to break apart and reform elsewhere. It allows Spider-Man to pretty easily to defeat Sandman after taking their fight outside and Sandman nearly destroys Stark Tower. Peter collects the evidence he needs but confronts Tombstone on his way out. The two fight and Spider-Man nearly loses before he flees because he says that he already has all that he needs. After we see Peter deliver the information to Foswell at the Daily Bugle, Peter is seen finally trying to patch up things with Gwen.



The final scene before the credits roll is going to be much like Ultimate Spider-Man #13, where he tells Gwen (instead of MJ) about his secret identity. Gwen and Peter nearly kiss before Peter is called down by Auny May. May has ambushed Peter with meeting Mary Jane as Gwen comes downstairs too. Peter is blown away by Mary Jane and Mary Jane delivers the jackpot line before the credits finally roll. This will allow for a bigger relationship drama to take place in the second film, which I would have build the friendship between Gwen and Mary Jane in the end as Peter and Gwen finally start dating in that film. Of course, the sequel would come after the Avengers sequels so that would probably be a film that ends with Peter's graduation from high school and Peter and Gwen finally getting together after the high school graduation. However, that is a story for another time. This is the way that I would do this film.



So, do you guys agree with the direction I would take the new Spider-Man franchise? Do you think the date that was set would be a good time for Spider-Man to make his new big screen debut? Obviously comment below and let me know. And, as always, keep it courteous. I'll see you guys next time!
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DoctorHellstorm
DoctorHellstorm - 1/14/2015, 1:54 PM
You should get hired.
nuyhm7ai
nuyhm7ai - 1/14/2015, 2:20 PM
why not come up with a show? spiderman works better there than a movie and even away from the avengers. he was never much a team player of the avengers anyway. him as a street level character works better
kinghulk
kinghulk - 1/14/2015, 2:32 PM
i dont want to see spidey at marvel unless sony gives the rights back. i dont want to see sony anywhere near the MCU.
Trickwil
Trickwil - 1/14/2015, 3:00 PM
They won't make a Spiderman movie until Phase 4. my guess is he'll be the only if not one of the only new heroes introduced in Phase 4. maybe Nova, maybe Ghost Rider?
TheDarman
TheDarman - 1/14/2015, 3:00 PM
@kinghulk I disagree with this assessment. Sony is not an inherently worse film production company than Marvel Studios. Sony's problem with the handling of Spider-Man has been largely creative which Marvel can set them down the right track. I believe that Marvel can reshape Spider-Man with Sony's help and we can get something truly special.
tokens
tokens - 1/14/2015, 3:14 PM
... I wanted to post a comment actually relevant and to further these conversations into really finding good solutions for spiderman in the MCU ....














...but then I saw dat annasophia robb...
kong
kong - 1/14/2015, 3:21 PM
I love your ideas! I'd rather see a show with ACTUAL 16 year olds playing the characters, but if they do go with a movie Logan Lerman NEEDS to be Peter. And I fully support Annasophia Robb. Why?



Bearjew
Bearjew - 1/14/2015, 3:41 PM
Logan Lerman can eat a dick. He's not Peter Parker.
Khanlark
Khanlark - 1/14/2015, 4:14 PM
If Marvel want to cast a younger gentleman as Spider-Man, they should cast Ansel Elgort. I loved his performance in The Fault In Our Stars and he is not tied down to a superhero franchise yet.

However, if Marvel opted for a slightly older Spidey (I'm thinking more 20-25 years old) they should really look at Unbroken's Jack O'Connell. The dude would kill as Spider-Man.

I do actually like this story, however, I think it feels a little too... nothing. Like it's a cool story, sure, but it feels like nothing happens. Like there is no actual outcome for Peter, no real growth in his character.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 1/14/2015, 4:20 PM
A good Spider-Man movie. That's what I want. A good Spider-Man movie.

Also, I think Logan Lerman should be the next Spider-Man, it should take place in the MCU and Marvel should have FULL Creative Control.

Give me that, and a good Norman Osborn, Kraven, Mysterio and other iconic villains and were back in business. Then we can finally dive into characters like Venom and finally Carnage before Sony ruins them too.
sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 1/14/2015, 4:34 PM
@KingNTheKong

dat Ass!!


Good idea to have Spidey's origin in the credits scene. No need to do another movie on that. Lerman definitely has the look for Parker, but I woul want someone younger who could play him for a longer time. They should stop getting almost 30 yr olds to play a teenager.
TucksFrom2015
TucksFrom2015 - 1/14/2015, 5:28 PM
Bearjaw - you stole the mouth right out of my words.
TheRaven20
TheRaven20 - 1/14/2015, 8:19 PM
Dylan O'Brien is the only one in my mind who could top Garfield's Spidey
TheDarman
TheDarman - 1/14/2015, 9:10 PM
@DrDoom As a person who has spoken out about how Garfield was too attractive to properly play the outcast, how do you think Dylan O'Brien, the epitome of super attractive nerds, would fair much better? Seems completely odd to me.

On the side with Mysterio, I completely agree. I really want to see that happen. I was thinking that he probably worked better as a villain for the second film.
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 1/14/2015, 11:42 PM
Fun read. I would prefer to use Tombstone for DD, Punisher, Heroes for Hire.

Maybe still do your story but one of the big secrets Spidey finds is that Tombstone is not really Tombstone, but Chameleon. Chameleon abducted Tombstone, pretended to be him and take over his empire. Chameleon, disguised as Tombstone, hires super villains to battle the growing superhero population. Instead of Sandman, how about Mysterio?

I really hope we stay away from love triangles. I want Gwen for a trilogy, than MJ for the next trilogy.

Fun read.
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 1/14/2015, 11:44 PM
Also thank you for introducing me to Annsophia, that donkey is great.
SpideyMCU16
SpideyMCU16 - 1/25/2015, 3:35 AM
Great article buddy!
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