What is going on with Spider-man 4?

What is going on with Spider-man 4?

Trying to sort through the mess of Spider-man 4...

Editorial Opinion
By ArmouredAvenger - Nov 19, 2009 03:11 PM EST
Filed Under: The Amazing Spider-Man

So it seems everyday there's a brand new "Spider-man 4" rumor. It all started way back when no one was sure if Sam Raimi was going to direct. It was unknown if Tobey Maguire was going to don the red and blue tights again. There was even a rumor that Sony had a list of replacements just in case they didn't sign him. Jake Gyllenhaal was said to be atop that list. Then even people close to the project, Raimi included, didn't know whether Kirsten Dunst was returning. Immediately after the three main people (Tobey, Sam, Kirsten) had signed, the villains rumors stared. From Morbious to Mysterio, Lizard to Kraven, to Venom returning and having Carnage emerge. There was even a rumor of Doc Ock returning and a possible Sinister Six.

Now that we actually have an idea of who is going to be in the movie, every rumor is now being aired. Whom will Bruce Campbell play? It's said he will have a significant role. If we look back, all his roles have been significant. He gave Spider-Man his name in the first movie. If it weren't for his being a dick to Peter Parker in number 2, there wouldn't have been tension between Peter and Mary Jane. In number 3, he was the one who held the ring when Peter was going to propose to Mary Jane. So I'm not saying he isn't going to have a larger and longer role in the movie, but let's not try to take it as anything but a major cameo role.





Now as to what has become the most talked about thing this week: Black Cat. Yes, it looks like she is going to be in the movie. But who will be play her-- we don't know yet. It seems like at least four actresses have tried out for the role. They are: Rachel McAdams, Julia Stiles, Alyson Hannigan, and Anne Hathaway. Now as for the first three, they all fit the similar description and age of each other and Black Cat. Now as for Anne Hathaway, I don't see her pulling off Black cat. Now if MovieScoop is right, she is playing this Valeria character then it could be setting up Vulture as a Villain for number 4. But it does not mean she will be playing Black Cat. I would say she could be a love interest, but how many girls are they going to throw at Peter Parker? Then it would be similar to number three, but throwing girls at him instead of villians.




Black Cat could still be portrayed by one of the other actresses, and if she is she would need a back story. This is just a thought of mine, not a rumor. But What if they took a page out of 'The Spectacular Spider-Man ' TV series and made Black Cat's father the man who killed Peter's uncle. No, not Sandman. The original who we all now is the true killer. The man who Michael Papajohn played. It would give him a viable reason to make a cameo appearance in the new one.




As for the Lizard, if he is not a villain in this film, then they have done another major foul up. He should play the main villain. It's been set up the past 3 movies. (He didn't appear in the first but was mentioned). They could have easily set up Eddie Brocks story in number 2. And easily mention the symboite in number 2. Just give a little mention of the the spaceship that John Jameson brought back the symbiote. But now I'm getting off track.




I'm just saying we all are trying to make out what these rumors mean. Until we get some viable information, (or conformation from Sony or Sam Raimi) we all are just going to give ourselves a headache. We're getting mad at what we think might happen or because we believe what other people are saying might happen.
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X
X - 11/19/2009, 3:39 PM
Dude I so agree with you
1chris2
1chris2 - 11/19/2009, 5:19 PM
hell yeah! and in spiderman 5,and 6 have more lizard and kraven,more dock ock,carnage,and venom,and a must scorpion.as for mysterio it should be bruce cambell or do not use mysterio at all.as for mary jane she needs to sex it up a little she just comes off as whiny in all the films give her some boobs and a thong,and add more gwen stacy she was hot,and whoever plays black cat had better have tatas and a black leather suite.bring us the lizard.
1chris2
1chris2 - 11/19/2009, 5:20 PM
a scorpion is a spiders natural enemy.?!@#$%^&*()_-0=
iNsaneMilesy
iNsaneMilesy - 11/19/2009, 6:05 PM
I can see rachel mcadams as black cat, not the other 3.
Bud
Bud - 11/20/2009, 10:41 AM
I don't think that the amount of villains made Spidey 3 poor. It was the way it was written that messed things up! Multiple villains can be awesome if done the right way. Here is the villain layout that I would love to see in the next 3 movies:

Spiderman 4- The Lizard and Morbius.
Spiderman 5- Electro and Scorpion.
Spiderman 6- Sinister Six (Vulture, Boomerang, Shocker, Beetle, Hammerhead, Hobgoblin.)
RockNRollCC
RockNRollCC - 11/20/2009, 9:09 PM
lol, bruce cambell made th cameo in SM3 as th french waiter who called peter "pecker." XD

id luv to see him play mysterio, but i wanna see lizard and kraven 1st!
squirt
squirt - 11/21/2009, 2:20 PM

spiderman 4- scorpion and rhino
spiderman 5- lizard and kraven
spiderman 6- lizard and chameleon
spiderman 7- electro and vulture

in 4 early fight with with rhino. early formation of scorpion with fights. longer, more in depth development of connors inner struggle with experimenting on himself. which gives him a much larger role in 4. in 5 have lizard and kravens last hunt. in 6 the capture of the lizard and the emergence of kravens half brother, chameleon. no black cat at all. no cheesy mysterio. no shocker. no more symbiote, except tie in at end of 4 with scorpion being taken over by symbiote to spinoff venom movie.
deadpool21
deadpool21 - 11/21/2009, 2:57 PM
before making spider-man 4 go back and fix spider-man 3
ArmouredAvenger
ArmouredAvenger - 11/21/2009, 3:12 PM
I would like to see something like in TDK where Spiderman fights rhino or someone and puts them in jail and you dont see him again
1chris2
1chris2 - 11/22/2009, 5:50 AM
how about someone keep following peter as he tries to change into spiderman to save someone else and he cannot be the hero in time because of this,and people start to hate spiderman even more. i hear alot about villains people want in the film but what kind of stories should be involved?
deadpool21
deadpool21 - 11/22/2009, 6:27 AM
no lizard, vulture, or mysterio. they should at least do venom some justice and have him as the main and only villain in spider-man 4, then in spider-man 5 lizard or vulture, and then in spider-man 6 bring in carnage to end the series right because i cant see it going past 6 although it would be great if it did.
Thairese
Thairese - 11/22/2009, 7:17 AM
I'm almost certain that Bruce Campbell is going to be Mysterio. That is the only way to justify his different roles in each movie. Also, I am watching Spiderman 2 right now. The scene in front of the movie theater, he tells Peter, ".. Oh, I'm sorry, sir. No one will be seated after the doors are closed. It helps maintain the ILLUSION."

Coincidental? I don't think so. I haven't rewatched Spiderman or Spiderman 3 yet to check for other clues but this is enough for me.
ArmouredAvenger
ArmouredAvenger - 11/22/2009, 9:13 PM
@Thairese You could be right. Id like to see mysterio but Stan Lee has ahd 3 cameos as well. Does taht put him in the running for mysterio?
Whargoul
Whargoul - 11/23/2009, 7:57 AM
mysterio does kinda make sense they could have him find out he is parker then show back story as to how he got him fired some way in each movie
1chris2
1chris2 - 11/23/2009, 3:10 PM
kingjohn stan lee is cameleon lol.
1chris2
1chris2 - 11/23/2009, 3:12 PM
and bruce cambell was a anouncer showing he is a show business man,and in the thurd he is a actor with a french voice he is mysterio.
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