James Gunn Explains Why SUPERMAN Dropped LEGACY From Its Title And Why He Included The Hero's Trunks

James Gunn Explains Why SUPERMAN Dropped LEGACY From Its Title And Why He Included The Hero's Trunks

DC Studios co-CEO and Superman director James Gunn has finally explained why he scrapped the "Legacy" subtitle and reveals how David Corenswet sold him on the idea of including the hero's red trunks...

By JoshWilding - Dec 17, 2024 01:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Superman
Source: ComicBook.com

When DC Studios announced its "Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters" slate, we learned the DCU would begin with Superman: Legacy. Since then, filmmaker James Gunn has dropped "Legacy" from the title but has yet to explain why. 

Talking to ComicBook.com on the set of Superman earlier this summer, the reboot's writer and director said, "I still think it has that aspect of 'Legacy' in it. We do this thing called the 'pre-mortem' before we started shooting."

"We go into a room with me and all the department heads and we say, 'Let’s say this movie is a colossal f-ck-up. We find out two years from now when this movie comes out, it goes terribly wrong. What are we doing right now that we’re not talking about, that we’re doing this, making this movie wrong?'"

"It gives a chance for all of the parties involved to speak their mind, whether it’s about the script, whether it’s about the casting, whether it’s about how departments aren’t communicating with each other," Gunn continued. "Everybody is allowed, from transportation to whatever, they’re all allowed to say what they think. And I found it extremely helpful."

It was during those conversations that the DC Studios co-CEO concluded that Superman: Legacy might give audiences the wrong idea about what he was hoping to achieve with this movie. 

"One of the things was, I thought maybe the title...had a looking back feeling about it, and this isn’t about looking back, this is about looking forward," he told the site. "When you see the movie, you’ll understand where 'Legacy' comes from because it is, again, it’s about Clark and his relationship to the script...and whose legacy is he, really?"

While Superman may not be about looking backwards, Gunn is paying homage to the Man of Steel's classic look on the page by incorporating his iconic - and often surprisingly divisive - red trunks. Admitting that he initially chose not to use them, the filmmaker persisted in trying to find a way to make them work. 

However, it was Superman himself, David Corenswet, who changed his sold him on them. 

"We were trying on all these different versions, and we screen-tested with trunks and no trunks. And one of the things David said is that Superman wants kids to not be afraid of him," Gunn recalled. "He’s an alien. He’s got these incredible powers. He shoots beams out of his eyes, can blow the truck over. He’s this incredibly powerful, could be considered scary, individual and he wants people to like him. He wants to be a symbol of hope and positivity."

"He dresses like a professional wrestler, he dresses in a way that makes people unafraid of him, that shows that," the director added. "That really clicked in for me."

"And I think trying to pretend that Superman’s costume doesn’t have some frivolity to it, at its base, trying to make it look serious is silly because he is a superhero. He’s the first one, brightly colored, and that’s who he is. So that’s where we landed and, eventually, we all came to a place where almost all of us agreed on the trunks," he concluded. 

This is as good an explanation for the trunks being included as we can remember, and love or hate them, they are part of Superman's most iconic look on the page. They didn't fit into the darker DCEU but in Gunn's DCU, it seems that part of the hero's wardrobe will be embraced.

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Lisa89
Lisa89 - 12/17/2024, 2:05 PM
No matter what he says, dropping ‘Legacy’ from the name just means the film will FOREVER be known as “Superman 2025”. Sorry, buddy.
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 12/17/2024, 2:43 PM
@Lisa89 - you mean " SUP25MAN "
IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 12/17/2024, 2:44 PM
@Lisa89 - No, it will be James Gunn's Superman. Just like we say Richard Donner's Superman.
dracula
dracula - 12/17/2024, 2:45 PM
@Lisa89 - well technically its the first to just be called superman
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 12/17/2024, 3:00 PM
@Lisa89 - I'm still waiting on "Superman: Forever" to be used as a title.
Lisa89
Lisa89 - 12/17/2024, 3:04 PM
@dracula - Tell that to a search engine. LOL
Lisa89
Lisa89 - 12/17/2024, 3:46 PM
@IAmAHoot - Since 1981, it’s been most commonly referred to as “Superman I”.
🙏🏽 Thanks, “Superman II”.
Asterisk
Asterisk - 12/17/2024, 3:53 PM
@BobGarlen - is that you Joel Schumacher?
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 12/17/2024, 3:53 PM
@Lisa89 - I've never been a fan of adding sequel number schemes retroactively (yes, I still call the first Star Wars movie "Star Wars.")
Lisa89
Lisa89 - 12/17/2024, 4:04 PM
@Clintthahamster - As you should. There'll never be any confusion because nobody calls 'The Empire Strikes Back' "Star Wars II".
McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/17/2024, 4:36 PM
@Clintthahamster - that's based
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 12/17/2024, 7:18 PM
@Asterisk - and I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling kids.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 12/18/2024, 7:02 AM
@Lisa89 - They do call it Episode V though.
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 12/17/2024, 2:07 PM
Professional wrestler? 😅

Should have just dressed him in the pants like the rock 🤣
Lisa89
Lisa89 - 12/17/2024, 2:12 PM
@BraveNewClunge - Yeah. Kids today are enamored of the 1930s Strongman look.
TheVandalore
TheVandalore - 12/17/2024, 2:15 PM
@BraveNewClunge - you.... You do know that's where his look came from, right? The classic strongmen and wrestlers from that era were literally the inspiration for Superman's suit.
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 12/17/2024, 2:17 PM
@Lisa89 - according to gunn they are 😅. A lot of wrestlers wear spandex trousers or those leotards these days.
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 12/17/2024, 2:19 PM
@TheVandalore - well duh, but we're in 2024/25. I'm not against the trunks but that is real life inspiration from the 60s compared to the modern day movie where that look would be very outdated.
EarlChai
EarlChai - 12/17/2024, 2:30 PM
@BraveNewClunge - The Rock actually dressed as Superman at the MTV Movie Awards once. Look up the pictures, you’ll see why that costume needs the extra padding that the trunks give. 🫣😉
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 12/17/2024, 2:39 PM
@EarlChai - i remember!

BTW are you a fan of earl grey?

I'm an earl grey man myself sir!
EarlChai
EarlChai - 12/17/2024, 3:16 PM
@BraveNewClunge - Yes indeed! I have a fairly large tea collection, but earl gray is a particular fave. Cool to see someone get my username!
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 12/17/2024, 5:56 PM
@EarlChai - thats actually cool 😎i need to start a tea collection myself sir

http://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTWsMQk38Zb0rzGo3bGl_epPOrD-d0EI2Phhg&s
EgoEgor
EgoEgor - 12/17/2024, 2:08 PM
It's not superman without the trunks for me. Only character just wears it well. Something about red trunks over the blue that just makes it pop, looks dull without it. Hate the belt look too.

Batman you can do without the trunks.
RolandD
RolandD - 12/17/2024, 2:15 PM
@EgoEgor - 100% agree. Superman should always have the trunks. With the Batman I can take them or leave them.
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 12/17/2024, 3:10 PM
@RolandD -

Superman looking like a wrestler or strongman makes more sense than a ninja dressed as a bat. So that’s why Batman shouldn’t need them.
RolandD
RolandD - 12/17/2024, 5:34 PM
@HulkisHoly - Great rationale.
Steel86
Steel86 - 12/17/2024, 2:10 PM
I'm a trunks guy. But admittedly mostly because 99.9% of the comics and live action don't do a great job to adding more color or make big enough his belt. I've seen very few do it right. And at the end of the day that's is simply his look.
GiverOfInfo
GiverOfInfo - 12/17/2024, 2:11 PM
Gunn made the right call! Siegel & Shuster got it right the first time.

Superman is a public performing identity created by Clark Kent, the costume is athletic tights and a cape created by Clark inspired by wrestlers and athletes, the red trunks and yellow belt also give the suit color balance.

I am so glad to see that Gunn understands this so well!
GiverOfInfo
GiverOfInfo - 12/17/2024, 2:29 PM
Gunn is absolutely right too: Superman is naturally a scary character without trying. If you want to see what happens when a character like that stays hidden and uses his powers suddenly around regular people, read Philip Wylie's Gladiator, the inspiration for Superman.

A costume is a similar concept to facial hair on guys: a big guy doesn't need facial hair because he is naturally imposing and would look scary with it, while a little guy is less so and the facial hair on him makes him look tougher.

Superman's costume is to announce that he is here, to be noticed, that he is not hiding, the primary colors and shield with an S in it that he designed all indicate that he is a protector.

Batman's costume is the opposite, where its purpose is to instil fear and mystery, to conceal.

Very glad to see that Gunn understands the character!

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mck13
mck13 - 12/17/2024, 3:31 PM
@GiverOfInfo - The red undies DONT WORK ON ANY MODERN characters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It came from a different time & looks ridiculously stupid today!
GiverOfInfo
GiverOfInfo - 12/17/2024, 3:36 PM
@mck13 - I see you are out of touch with reality as well as artistically challenged.

Did you not see the list of characters that have them to this day?
ComicBandit
ComicBandit - 12/17/2024, 6:21 PM
@mck13 - I never get this. Supes is enough of an icon that this doesn't matter. If the movie is good no one will care. Just like no one cared that Cap in Avengers looked like Fourth of July can of beer once the movie was good.
Mrtoke
Mrtoke - 12/17/2024, 7:21 PM
@ComicBandit - I still get taken out of that movie until he proves to that one cop who he really is lol
AC1
AC1 - 12/17/2024, 7:27 PM
@GiverOfInfo - Siegel & Shuster's design was very different from what most versions of Superman seen on screen looked like - he had red ankle-boots with sandle straps going up to his knees (rather than the knee high boots we're used to today) while the insignia on his chest was a slim inverted yellow triangle with a simple red S in the middle (rather than the iconic pentagonal S shield seen in pretty much every modern depiction) and there were often times where the comics were coloured in such a way that he wasn't wearing trunks on the outside of the costume or his footwear was blue as well.

Superman's design didn't come straight out of Action Comics #1 as a fully realised costume - while most of the elements were there, a lot of the details were in flux for a number of years before finally settling on that classic look we're used to seeing worn by the likes of Christopher Reeve. And that look is iconic for a reason, but that doesn't make it the only valid interpretation of the costume. Just like how Gunn's version has a high collar which we usually only see on the New 52 version of Superman. The trunks don't make or break the costume - Christopher Reeve's Superman looked great with them, Henry Cavill's Superman looked great without them, Tyler Hoechlin's Superman rocked both looks in his show, and David Corensweat looks great in his own version of the suit. They're all slightly different, but they're all very clearly Superman.
GiverOfInfo
GiverOfInfo - 12/17/2024, 7:34 PM
@AC1 - Totally false. As I said before, the Superman suit has always been a red cape, red trunks, red boots, yellow belt, blue shirt & pants, and red & yellow S shield. The execution of these elements has varied but the parts and colors have always been the same for over 70 years until the abominable snyderverse and New 52. Gunn is bringing the true character and costume back.
AC1
AC1 - 12/17/2024, 7:41 PM
@GiverOfInfo - Go back and read Action Comics #1. Or Google it.

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All of the above are from Action Comics #1 - in fact, it's so well known that the colours often appeared as such that there are even official action figures depicting that appearance:

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GiverOfInfo
GiverOfInfo - 12/17/2024, 8:20 PM
@AC1 - The boots are red on the cover and are supposed to be red on the interior too, miscolorings do not count as costume changes.

Sorry not sorry.

Try again.

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The interiors didn't correct the coloring error until Action Comics 6, literally mid page:

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zeon00
zeon00 - 12/18/2024, 6:24 AM
@GiverOfInfo - the red indie make sense if Superman movie were set in the 1930s
GiverOfInfo
GiverOfInfo - 12/18/2024, 6:57 AM
@zeon00 - they're trunks, not undies, and all professions that wore them then still wear them now, so even if we use your warped logic, there's still np reason why he shouldn't have them today.

It's also just what the Superman suit looks like, and that is always timeless.
ComicBandit
ComicBandit - 12/19/2024, 1:52 PM
@Mrtoke - Still remember the feeling of seeing that for the first time.There were a lot of moments in the film. Which is what I'm saying. If they do that here, no one will care.
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