SUPERMAN Director James Gunn On How The Movie Sets Up The DCU And Why JLI Heroes Aren't Just Cameos

SUPERMAN Director James Gunn On How The Movie Sets Up The DCU And Why JLI Heroes Aren't Just Cameos

Superman writer and director James Gunn has addressed the decision to include several other superheroes in the movie and reveals whether the reboot sets up what comes next in the new DCU. Check it out...

By JoshWilding - Dec 17, 2024 03:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Superman
Source: ComicBook.com

While new episodes of Creature Commandos are currently dropping weekly on Max, Superman will be where we get our first real taste of what's to come in DC Studios' new DCU. 

While there were tentative plans for The Avengers when Iron Man was released in 2008, it wasn't until the movie's closing moments - with the mention of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Nick Fury's cameo - that we got a taste of a shared universe. In comparison, Superman will feature several other superheroes, leading to concerns it will end up being less Iron Man and more Iron Man 2

Talking to ComicBook.com on the set of Superman this summer, writer and director James Gunn said those Justice League International characters all have important roles to play here and are not just throwaway cameos meant to rapidly expand the DCU. 

"I think it was just who I wanted to really, honestly. I love Mister Terrific," the filmmaker explained. "These characters all get their moment in the sun. They all have their moments. They’re not just cameos, these are the characters. They’re supporting cast, but Mister Terrific is the main character of those characters. He actually has a big part of the plot. And so that was fun."

"And of course getting to work with Nathan [Fillion] is always something, and putting him in a stupid look, and then Isabela [Merced] is great. I’ve been a fan of hers for a long time. But it was about balance," he added.

Pushed for details on Superman's connection to the wider DCU, Gunn admitted that there are "two little things, two moments" that tease the future. However, "If something is there just to set up something else, f**k it."

"If [Superman] sets up stuff in Peacemaker, which it does, then that’s great," he elaborated. "But that is never, ever, ever, with me, going to be something that I’m going to sacrifice even a moment or a beat in a story for, especially a movie. With TV, you’ve got a little bit more leniency to be able to do that. But in a movie, every beat has to be in there for the movie itself."

"Are seeds being planted [for Lanterns]? Yes, there are seeds being planted. But that is never going to be the predominant thing in any scene for me. It’s always about getting to the next scene," Gunn noted. "What’s in the moment? How are we making this movie the best it can be? And it’s going to stay like that as much as I can possibly make it like that."

Gunn is saying all the right things here and he appears to have a clear direction in mind for the DCU. The DC Studios co-CEO certainly doesn't appear to be setting out to make a carbon copy of the MCU - he's already confirmed these movies aren't leading to one "big bad" - and only time will tell whether he manages to create a world that redeems the DC brand in the eyes of fans and filmgoers.

For now, though, we're just keeping everything crossed that Superman manages to live up to the hype when it arrives in theaters next summer.

Superman arrives in theaters on July 11, 2025.

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thebamf
thebamf - 12/17/2024, 3:13 PM
I am so pumped for this.
GiverOfInfo
GiverOfInfo - 12/17/2024, 3:16 PM
Hail Gunn!
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 12/17/2024, 3:30 PM
Glad to hear that. Really enjoyed the Terrifics comic.
mck13
mck13 - 12/17/2024, 3:36 PM
Look at GOTG last movie..from costumes to set to script...Adam Warlocks horrible costume & writing...the ONLY good part was about Rocket...guess Krypton will be better than Superman...Gunn is only good with C List Characters & UNKNOWNS>>
McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/17/2024, 4:21 PM
@mck13 - are you high? Guardians 3 is not only thee best Guardians film, it buries the large majority of the MCU content from the last half decade. It does characterization and emotion better than most cbm's. Your caps lock addiction does not change this.
RolandD
RolandD - 12/17/2024, 5:38 PM
@McMurdo - LOLOLOL You tell him.
Nolanite
Nolanite - 12/17/2024, 7:33 PM
@McMurdo - I got 100 dollars riding on you to beat the living shit out of @mck13 so don't let me down.
Deadinside
Deadinside - 12/18/2024, 9:14 AM
@Nolanite -
I, uh, don't normally condone violence & wish no harm to befall @mck13, but that was funny...! ☮️🤭
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 12/17/2024, 3:42 PM
Just curious... if Comicbook.com had this conversation with Gunn in the summer... why are we just getting this information now?? cuz its close to trailer drop? is there some NDA written that they can't release that info until a certain point?

Anyways... i like what he's saying, but, i truly hope that Superman doesn't get shafted in his own movie with having the spot light on other characters too long. There are a TON of supporting characters here.

Hope it works out well as im wicked pumped... yet semi nervous at the same time
TrentCrimm
TrentCrimm - 12/17/2024, 3:59 PM
@MotherGooseUPus -

That's usually how these things go with movies, it's just part of the press tour. During filming they'll host a whole slew of press for a day or two, making the rounds doing interviews and things like that, and then when marketing starts happening, whether it's trailers or promo images, that's when these interviews will start coming out in piece work to help build hype and promote the movie . I'm not sure if there's a specific NDA regarding it all but I'd have to imagine so.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 12/17/2024, 4:10 PM
@TrentCrimm - ahhhh ok, well that makes a lot of sense. thanks for the knowledge drop
Forthas
Forthas - 12/17/2024, 3:43 PM
Sounds like he is confirming this is really a Justice League International film which in my humble opinion should be represented in the title or plot tag line otherwise it is a bait and switch. The same people who will undoubtedly defends this moments from now are the same people who rightfully criticized Zack Snyder for shoving numerous characters into what should have been a solo Superman sequel.
TrentCrimm
TrentCrimm - 12/17/2024, 4:04 PM
@Forthas -

"Sounds like he is confirming this is really a Justice League International film"

I disagree, I think this JLI is going to be in the movie as a plot point, going by the set photos I get the impression that this JLI funded by Maxwell Lord is going to be used more as an obstacle that Superman faces in the movie.

To me it's exactly what Gunn is saying in the quote, they're not the main driving force of the movie, they're supporting cast.
LibraMatter
LibraMatter - 12/17/2024, 3:45 PM
Mr. Terrific in the “Strange Adventures” comic was my intro to the character. If you haven’t read it, I definitely recommend doing so. Such a cool character.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/17/2024, 3:49 PM
This dude be saying the right things yet some people will still find something to criticize or nitpick about smh…

I’m especially excited for Mr Terrific having the biggest role it seems out of the other heroes in this since I also have always liked the character aswell.

The only other live action take we have had of him was the Arrow one which I wasn’t a big fan of so hopefully this version characterization is better for me.

Plus , Edi Gathegi is a underrated actor so it’s nice to see him being given the chance to play this role!!.

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Steel86
Steel86 - 12/17/2024, 4:16 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Big fan of Terrific and the casting. Funny when he was cast I was like I love him as an actor but wasn't sure he really looked the part. To his credit he put on size and absolutely looks Terrific 😎
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 12/17/2024, 4:06 PM
We knew already they aren't glorified cameos since he said it during the filming of the movie from Threads or on Twitter, about how he had to also flesh out "his meta-human compatriots" to really understand Superman.

Nathan Fillion's Guy does look stupid though, but whatever.

The movie functioning standalone sounds good.

But I still think he's contradicted himself about thes movies not leading to one "big bad" when the synopsos for Lanterns teased a dark mystery on Earth with big implications for his DCU. The only explanation is because he accounts for the factor of leniency a series provides.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/17/2024, 4:08 PM
@NinnesMBC - true but another way you can read the Lanterns thing is it could have implications for the DCU like something like Eternals did or whatever where it can affect the wider universe but doesn’t necessarily lead to a Big Bad.
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 12/17/2024, 4:14 PM
@TheVisionary25 - When you describe it like he did, that John and Hal "discover a terrifying mystery that ties into our larger story of the DCU" you're automatically setting up something very important that will leave at least ramifications. Unless he has tweaked a lot of things from the premise ever since then.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/17/2024, 4:19 PM
@NinnesMBC - yeah true

It could be ramifications but again doesn’t have to be a big bad.
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 12/17/2024, 4:30 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Fair enough then. Right now the only thing that comes close to ramifications is the probable death of Hal since Kyle Chandler isn't signed up to reprise the role for future DCU endeavors.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/17/2024, 4:34 PM
@NinnesMBC - perhaps

Probably best to you know , see the show 😏
MisterBones
MisterBones - 12/17/2024, 4:10 PM
Mr. Terrific love, let's go
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NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 12/17/2024, 4:15 PM
Hopefully Mr. Terrific's ties to the JSA and the Golden Age Mr. Terrific (Terry Sloane) are left intact.
Fogs
Fogs - 12/17/2024, 4:52 PM
Nice. This looks good from the start. Here's hoping.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 12/17/2024, 5:41 PM
"It’s always about getting to the next scene"

That's all I need to hear. Really helps the flow of the movie everything happens in context and sequence with the scene before.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 12/17/2024, 8:11 PM
I can't wait for the trailer!
SuperBatCap1
SuperBatCap1 - 12/17/2024, 11:24 PM
Y'know what's funny about this...I go over to IGN and all the Superman information from James Gunn is all in one article.

This site makes several pieces spreading the information into several articles....FOR NO REASON!

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