THE FANTASTIC FOUR Director Says Reed Richards Is "The Guy Who's Leading The AVENGERS"

THE FANTASTIC FOUR Director Says Reed Richards Is "The Guy Who's Leading The AVENGERS"

Has The Fantastic Four: First Steps director Matt Shakman revealed that Reed Richards (Pedro Pascal) will lead the team in Avengers: Doomsday? Maybe... maybe not!

By MarkCassidy - Jul 17, 2025 01:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four

Is Reed Richards, aka Mr. Fantastic, being positioned to lead Earth's Mightiest Heroes in Avengers: Doomsday and/or Secret Wars?

The Fantastic Four: First Steps director Matt Shakman has set the internet buzzing with his comments about how much of a challenge it was to cast Pedro Pascal's character during a wide-ranging interview with Variety.

“He goes from being the nerdy scientist who’s locked away in the lab, to the husband and the father who’d do anything to protect his family, to the guy who’s leading the Avengers,” Shakman said of the FF patriarch. “I realized that the version we were building had to have all of those elements.”

Though some have taken this as confirmation that Mr. Fantastic will lead the Avengers in the upcoming MCU event film, it's entirely possible that Shakman was simply referring to Reed's journey in the comic books. Or is he?

Previous reports have suggested that Sam Wilson (Anthony Mackie) will take command of one roster of heroes, with Yelena Belova (Florence Pugh) leading the New Avengers that were formed at the end of Thunderbolts*. But what if Richards is set to head-up a third team?

Probably a bit of a stretch (sorry), but let us know what you think in the comments section down below.

First Steps also stars Vanessa Kirby (Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning) as Sue Storm, aka the Invisible Woman, Joseph Quinn (Stranger Things, A Quiet Place Day One) as Johnny Storm, aka The Human Torch, Ebon Moss-Bachrach (The Punisher, The Bear) as Ben Grimm, aka the Thing, and Julia Garner (Wolf Man, Ozark) as the Silver Surfer.

Ralph Ineson will play Galactus, and Natasha Lyonne and Paul Walter Hauser are also on board in undisclosed roles. John Malkovich's Red Ghost has been cut from the movie.

"Set against the vibrant backdrop of a 1960s-inspired, retro-futuristic world, Marvel Studios' The Fantastic Four: First Steps introduces Marvel’s First Family—Reed Richards/Mister Fantastic (Pedro Pascal), Sue Storm/Invisible Woman (Vanessa Kirby), Johnny Storm/Human Torch (Joseph Quinn) and Ben Grimm/The Thing (Ebon Moss-Bachrach) as they face their most daunting challenge yet.

Forced to balance their roles as heroes with the strength of their family bond, they must defend Earth from a ravenous space god called Galactus (Ralph Ineson) and his enigmatic Herald, Silver Surfer (Julia Garner). And if Galactus’ plan to devour the entire planet and everyone on it weren’t bad enough, it suddenly gets very personal."

The Fantastic Four: First Steps is set to hit theaters on July 25, 2025.

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NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 7/17/2025, 1:34 AM
Which Avengers? The one that is sponsored by Valentine and the goverment and goes by AvengerZ or Sam's Avengers?

The West Coast Avengers (Yelena's) or Cap's?

That is the question.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/17/2025, 9:18 AM
@NinnesMBC - The Young Avengers even? The multiversal Avengers? The OG Avengers (hope hope)?
OgHerManM
OgHerManM - 7/17/2025, 1:37 AM
He can tickle my pickle wit dat stache
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 7/17/2025, 1:47 AM
The only real avengers are the IDF figthing for peace and protecting USA from bad guys
Pictilli
Pictilli - 7/17/2025, 1:52 AM
@Malatrova15 - only in Bizarro World. What a ridiculous comment lol. The IDF serves only Israel, and anyone who dislikes the USA only dislikes the USA because it is controlled by Israel. So if the US severed those ties with Israel...the "bad guys" would magically stop disliking the US.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 7/17/2025, 2:22 AM
@Pictilli - excuse me but Iran and Syria are hostile countries to America and Israel servers as our shield to keep truth , justice and the TRUMP WAY
Pictilli
Pictilli - 7/17/2025, 2:49 AM
@Malatrova15 - Iran and Syria are on the other side of the planet, the US has no business putting its military bases there to threaten them. Trump is a shill for Israel and uses America to do their bidding. Israel doesn't like Iran and Syria because they are secular Muslim regimes that make it difficult for Israel to take over and control the entirety of the middle east for The Greater Israel Project.
Pictilli
Pictilli - 7/17/2025, 1:51 AM
Lol this Reed doesn't even lead the Fantastic Four, Sue does
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 7/17/2025, 2:08 AM
He's a tactical genius, only behind Cyclops and Steve Rogers; he absolutely should be in a leadership role.
BetterLaytonEvr
BetterLaytonEvr - 7/17/2025, 2:10 AM
In the comics, when Reed is around ensemble casts including Avengers, he definitely takes over sometimes because of his intellect. Leading.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/17/2025, 2:12 AM
The marvel marketing machine now kicking off with these BS claims just to entice fanboys 😭

So what if the f4 movie flops?
Vigor
Vigor - 7/17/2025, 3:46 AM
@vectorsigma - what if you actually like it?
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 7/17/2025, 5:36 AM
@vectorsigma - With DC is overwhelming positivity and Marvel always negativity. At least wait for the movie to be out.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/17/2025, 6:34 AM
@Urubrodi - i published a good review of thunderbolts here.

Im just commenting on these directors saying anything to promote their movie.

They released the first trailer with j malkovoch then removed him. That's how adhoc marvel is which is dont like. Then they announce BS like this
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/17/2025, 6:35 AM
@Vigor - then i like it, id say it out load here abd might even write a review.

These BS statements are just a marvel staple that i dont like
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 7/17/2025, 8:41 AM
@vectorsigma - James Gunn, the guy that you are sucking off all the time, literally couldn't shut up about Superman and literally called The Flash as one of the best CBMs ever in order to get people to watch it, stop being hypocritical, everyone wants to sell their movie and will do their best to get the audience to get hooked by it
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/17/2025, 9:40 AM
@Urubrodi - if you believed that about the Flash, then so be it.

The F4 dir is using the next big avengers movie to promote his movie. How desperate is that? Use the merits of your own movie

Gunn is promoting his current movies. Those are different.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 7/17/2025, 2:13 PM
@vectorsigma - Let's break down the nonsense in parts:
- In what part of what I said did I even remotely imply that I believed him? lol Everyone and their mother knew (or at least should have known) that The Flash was gonna be bad. But that didn't stop him from trying to bullshit the public in order to give it a boost.

- What's desperate about it? lol It's just so damn logical. Of course you're gonna connect this film with the massive one that people are expecting. They wanna make money! Whatever can get more people interested in F4 is on the table. You clearly wouldn't work well in sales.

- Gunn only has this to promote though. The universe is just starting there is no Justice League coming up yet. And wasn't Supergirl (the next character to have a movie) in the movie as a small cameo? Clearly she was there to get people looking forward to her movie, so that they are already familiar with her. And they just released a poster from her movie while Superman is still out and her movie is months away.

Stop with the damn double standards. You like DC? Cool, enjoy the DCU. Forget the MCU exists and move on with your life. So tiring.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/17/2025, 11:18 PM
@Urubrodi - dude, you are easily triggered. Relax.

All i want from marvel is use the merits of their film in their marketing. Call F4 the greatest cbm of whatever, just talk about the film.

You didnt see gunn saying, this superman film will lead to a better justice league film, or something like that. He promotes the current film he has. He talks about hia adopted dog, his casting process. The works.

We can agree to disagree. I support the mcu as much as you do. But doesnt mean i cant criticize their lousy (imo) approach. If gunn does this, ill call it out too. The one he did with the flash was desperate as well and i dont want to see him do the same bs with the dcu
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 7/17/2025, 2:12 AM
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vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/17/2025, 2:18 AM
OT

Are you guys seeing comments formatted like this?

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RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 7/17/2025, 2:25 AM
@vectorsigma - wtf, no.
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 7/17/2025, 2:27 AM
@vectorsigma - from what article is that, I can look it up
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/17/2025, 2:54 AM
@RegularPoochie - i cant remember tbh. Must be linked to my account, comments without user pics are like this. But thanks for confirming on your end.
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 7/17/2025, 3:09 AM
@vectorsigma - yeah, I remember seeing this years ago and it was because the pfp, but thought they fixed it.
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