THE FANTASTIC FOUR Director Says Reed Richards Is "The Guy Who's Leading The AVENGERS"

THE FANTASTIC FOUR Director Says Reed Richards Is "The Guy Who's Leading The AVENGERS"

Has The Fantastic Four: First Steps director Matt Shakman revealed that Reed Richards (Pedro Pascal) will lead the team in Avengers: Doomsday? Maybe... maybe not!

By MarkCassidy - Jul 17, 2025 01:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four

Is Reed Richards, aka Mr. Fantastic, being positioned to lead Earth's Mightiest Heroes in Avengers: Doomsday and/or Secret Wars?

The Fantastic Four: First Steps director Matt Shakman has set the internet buzzing with his comments about how much of a challenge it was to cast Pedro Pascal's character during a wide-ranging interview with Variety.

“He goes from being the nerdy scientist who’s locked away in the lab, to the husband and the father who’d do anything to protect his family, to the guy who’s leading the Avengers,” Shakman said of the FF patriarch. “I realized that the version we were building had to have all of those elements.”

Though some have taken this as confirmation that Mr. Fantastic will lead the Avengers in the upcoming MCU event film, it's entirely possible that Shakman was simply referring to Reed's journey in the comic books. Or is he?

Previous reports have suggested that Sam Wilson (Anthony Mackie) will take command of one roster of heroes, with Yelena Belova (Florence Pugh) leading the New Avengers that were formed at the end of Thunderbolts*. But what if Richards is set to head-up a third team?

Probably a bit of a stretch (sorry), but let us know what you think in the comments section down below.

First Steps also stars Vanessa Kirby (Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning) as Sue Storm, aka the Invisible Woman, Joseph Quinn (Stranger Things, A Quiet Place Day One) as Johnny Storm, aka The Human Torch, Ebon Moss-Bachrach (The Punisher, The Bear) as Ben Grimm, aka the Thing, and Julia Garner (Wolf Man, Ozark) as the Silver Surfer.

Ralph Ineson will play Galactus, and Natasha Lyonne and Paul Walter Hauser are also on board in undisclosed roles. John Malkovich's Red Ghost has been cut from the movie.

"Set against the vibrant backdrop of a 1960s-inspired, retro-futuristic world, Marvel Studios' The Fantastic Four: First Steps introduces Marvel’s First Family—Reed Richards/Mister Fantastic (Pedro Pascal), Sue Storm/Invisible Woman (Vanessa Kirby), Johnny Storm/Human Torch (Joseph Quinn) and Ben Grimm/The Thing (Ebon Moss-Bachrach) as they face their most daunting challenge yet.

Forced to balance their roles as heroes with the strength of their family bond, they must defend Earth from a ravenous space god called Galactus (Ralph Ineson) and his enigmatic Herald, Silver Surfer (Julia Garner). And if Galactus’ plan to devour the entire planet and everyone on it weren’t bad enough, it suddenly gets very personal."

The Fantastic Four: First Steps is set to hit theaters on July 25, 2025.

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NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 7/17/2025, 1:34 AM
Which Avengers? The one that is sponsored by Valentine and the goverment and goes by AvengerZ or Sam's Avengers?

The West Coast Avengers (Yelena's) or Cap's?

That is the question.
OgHerManM
OgHerManM - 7/17/2025, 1:37 AM
He can tickle my pickle wit dat stache
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 7/17/2025, 1:47 AM
The only real avengers are the IDF figthing for peace and protecting USA from bad guys
Pictilli
Pictilli - 7/17/2025, 1:52 AM
@Malatrova15 - only in Bizarro World. What a ridiculous comment lol. The IDF serves only Israel, and anyone who dislikes the USA only dislikes the USA because it is controlled by Israel. So if the US severed those ties with Israel...the "bad guys" would magically stop disliking the US.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 7/17/2025, 2:22 AM
@Pictilli - excuse me but Iran and Syria are hostile countries to America and Israel servers as our shield to keep truth , justice and the TRUMP WAY
Pictilli
Pictilli - 7/17/2025, 2:49 AM
@Malatrova15 - Iran and Syria are on the other side of the planet, the US has no business putting its military bases there to threaten them. Trump is a shill for Israel and uses America to do their bidding. Israel doesn't like Iran and Syria because they are secular Muslim regimes that make it difficult for Israel to take over and control the entirety of the middle east for The Greater Israel Project.
Pictilli
Pictilli - 7/17/2025, 1:51 AM
Lol this Reed doesn't even lead the Fantastic Four, Sue does
Latverian
Latverian - 7/17/2025, 4:40 AM
@Pictilli -

Why are you being deliberately obtuse right now?
Canyoublush
Canyoublush - 7/17/2025, 5:50 AM
@Pictilli - It’s not that deep. Sue is the most powerful member of the team after all.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 7/17/2025, 2:08 AM
He's a tactical genius, only behind Cyclops and Steve Rogers; he absolutely should be in a leadership role.
BetterLaytonEvr
BetterLaytonEvr - 7/17/2025, 2:10 AM
In the comics, when Reed is around ensemble casts including Avengers, he definitely takes over sometimes because of his intellect. Leading.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/17/2025, 2:12 AM
The marvel marketing machine now kicking off with these BS claims just to entice fanboys 😭

So what if the f4 movie flops?
Vigor
Vigor - 7/17/2025, 3:46 AM
@vectorsigma - what if you actually like it?
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 7/17/2025, 5:36 AM
@vectorsigma - With DC is overwhelming positivity and Marvel always negativity. At least wait for the movie to be out.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/17/2025, 6:34 AM
@Urubrodi - i published a good review of thunderbolts here.

Im just commenting on these directors saying anything to promote their movie.

They released the first trailer with j malkovoch then removed him. That's how adhoc marvel is which is dont like. Then they announce BS like this
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/17/2025, 6:35 AM
@Vigor - then i like it, id say it out load here abd might even write a review.

These BS statements are just a marvel staple that i dont like
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 7/17/2025, 2:12 AM
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vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/17/2025, 2:18 AM
OT

Are you guys seeing comments formatted like this?

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RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 7/17/2025, 2:25 AM
@vectorsigma - wtf, no.
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 7/17/2025, 2:27 AM
@vectorsigma - from what article is that, I can look it up
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/17/2025, 2:54 AM
@RegularPoochie - i cant remember tbh. Must be linked to my account, comments without user pics are like this. But thanks for confirming on your end.
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 7/17/2025, 3:09 AM
@vectorsigma - yeah, I remember seeing this years ago and it was because the pfp, but thought they fixed it.
AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 7/17/2025, 4:10 AM
@vectorsigma - try inprivate mode
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/17/2025, 6:30 AM
@AllsNotGood - will try. Thanks
Mortagon1978
Mortagon1978 - 7/17/2025, 2:28 AM
After SW I think they're banking on him becoming the next "RDJ" of the MCU which I can only see failing catastrophically. Thankfully, they have the X-men to fall back on.
Spike101
Spike101 - 7/17/2025, 5:12 AM
@Mortagon1978 - I think you are probably right. They stupidly wrote their main two characters out and only realised that fans wouldn’t put up with fake Cap or anyone else leading the Avengers when it was too late. The only other characters who could have done it are Thor who they turned into a clown and Hank Pym who Edgar Wright ruined. All a bit of a mess really.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 7/17/2025, 6:22 AM
@Spike101 - Thor never had the character weight to lead the Avengers in these movies, even before he was made into a clown I think, and Edgar Wright has never directed an MCU movie.
Latverian
Latverian - 7/17/2025, 4:42 AM
Some of y'all are so deep into the M-She-U grift, you can't even fathom the possibility of it all being a scam in the first place.
PartyKiller
PartyKiller - 7/17/2025, 5:15 AM
@Latverian - The MCU is garbage, but speaking of a grift, you are using the garbage "M-She-U" that comes from meth dealer and scumbag grifter Nerdrotic.
Latverian
Latverian - 7/17/2025, 5:23 AM
@PartyKiller -

Did I or did I not just now refer to it as a "scam"?

Or did you think I was referring to the actual MCU as such?
dagenspear
dagenspear - 7/17/2025, 6:20 AM
@Latverian - M-She-U, M-He-U, what's the difference if it's not well written?
dagenspear
dagenspear - 7/17/2025, 6:34 AM
@PartyKiller - LORD willing, insulting isn't right.

Love and worship God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit! God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and that God raised Him from the dead and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well. Repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart, that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son Jesus Christ, that all who believe on Him shall not perish but have eternal life. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to the Father Jehovah God but through Him.

The Holy Bible says, "love thy enemy", "turn the other cheek", "If your enemy is hungry, feed him", "if he is thirsty, give him a drink", "pray for those who persecute you", "do not repay evil for evil".

LORD willing, all humans may commit sin of almost every kind (gay, straight), and that's wrong, and all humans sin, as God tells us through the The Holy Bible, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.", "Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you." and, “For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 7/17/2025, 6:51 AM
@Latverian - Yup, dunno why anyone got stuck on the idea the lead character and leader being the same thing when we had CapA the leader but Iron Man the lead focus in multiple films and similarly before that Cyclops was never realy the main focus but always team leader prior to First Class.

If at any point Sue DID take on more of a team leader role due to Reed locked away in his lab or whatever, so what, that occured at times in the comics too and IRL with family groups it is the Mother that is more in charge at times even if the Dad is mostly head of the house (something that was still true back in the 60's).
Latverian
Latverian - 7/17/2025, 6:56 AM
@Apophis71 -

You're making the mistake of thinking tha those who whine about that sort of stuff ever cared enough for those characters in the first place.

Or just cared in general for that matter.

What's important to them is that they farm negativity for the sake of trolling, since spite and envy is the only thing that they have for this franchise. Sometimes you'll see them openly admitting to it. Other times they'll even brag about how superior they are to fans of it for doing so.

But at the end of the day, they're just morons.
MadThanos
MadThanos - 7/17/2025, 5:54 AM
Well, the guy leading the Avengers got another earth extinct.
SuperCat
SuperCat - 7/17/2025, 6:15 AM
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Latverian
Latverian - 7/17/2025, 6:27 AM
@SuperCat -

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