GOTHAM Showrunner Says Killing Off Established DC Characters Is Not Out Of The Question

GOTHAM Showrunner Says Killing Off Established DC Characters Is Not Out Of The Question

EW have posted their full, in-depth interview with Bruno Heller (Rome, The Mentalist) and in it he's asked about the perception that many of the Gotham characters are safe because they are established in Batman canon, and this is a prequel story. His answer might surprise you!

By MarkCassidy - Nov 20, 2014 09:11 AM EST
Filed Under: Gotham
Source: EW
Even before the first episode premièred, many people failed to see the point of a show like Gotham...and not just because it would be a "Batman story without Batman". The feeling was that because so many (let's be honest, with the exception of Fish Mooney, all!) of the players were younger versions of established DC Comics characters that have a role to play in Bruce Wayne's life when he eventually dons the cape, that there would be a lack of surprise and overall suspense knowing that there's no way they'd ever be killed off. Well, that might not strictly be the case! EW ask Heller about deviating from canon by possibly sending someone down for the dirt nap, and here's what he said.

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"I wouldn’t say it’s iron clad. You’d need a damn good reason to do it and a damn good end game to justify it. We’re certainly just learning the ropes at this stage. Not to be modest about it, but we’re still learning how to do a show this big. I’m always deeply reluctant to kill off characters simply for the shock value of killing them off. I’m not averse to cheap tricks. But apart from anything else, this season literally every actor has come through and [performed really strong]. I would hate to lose any of them. Killing off Sean Bean in the first season of Game of Thrones made everyone go, “Oh, what a good idea that is!” But I don’t think it’s a good idea if you’ve got Sean Bean. The bad one was on Deadwood, when they had David Carradine doing that marvelous Wild Bill Hickok, and then he was gone."


A lot of fans have taken issue with Gotham for the liberties it's taken already, I think if they killed off someone like The Penguin or The Riddler before Batman even has a chance to introduce himself it might be the final straw. Still, it sounds like it's only a possibility and not certain to happen. Heller also teases what's in store for Jim Gordon (Ben McKenzie) down the line, saying he eventually says "screw it" and takes the fight straight to the gangsters and corrupt politicians that run the city. "And just when Jim thinks he’s achieved a certain level of success against the powers-that-be, they pull a vicious table-turn on him that will play out in the last episodes of the season in a very big, scary theatrical way.". Much more at the link below.
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BaneSmash
BaneSmash - 11/20/2014, 9:20 AM
Dude spoilers I haven't seen GOT...........
Shootzilla
Shootzilla - 11/20/2014, 9:33 AM
@BaneSmash Dont worry, nobody has.
SoundWave
SoundWave - 11/20/2014, 9:34 AM
They have already killed Frankie Carbone.
TheSuperguy
TheSuperguy - 11/20/2014, 9:34 AM
The Gordon & Penguin stories are interesting, but Barbara, Bruce, and Fish stories definitely need improvement.
UrichLeeds
UrichLeeds - 11/20/2014, 9:36 AM
@BaneSmash But Sean Bean dies in everything.
UrichLeeds
UrichLeeds - 11/20/2014, 9:37 AM
@BaneSmash Y-you had to have known that, obviously, he dies in Game of Thrones.
SuperCat
SuperCat - 11/20/2014, 9:38 AM
Kill Barbara already.
superotherside
superotherside - 11/20/2014, 9:39 AM
Gordon dies.

What a twist.

;P
SuperCat
SuperCat - 11/20/2014, 9:41 AM
ALegendaryPanda
ALegendaryPanda - 11/20/2014, 9:44 AM
What if Bruce dies in the mid season finale and Gordon becomes Batman instead? LOL
Pasto
Pasto - 11/20/2014, 9:52 AM
I hate this show so much.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 11/20/2014, 9:52 AM
@Doopie and ALegendaryPanda

You have no idea how much I want (something like) that to happen. My dream scenario is Barbara is killed, Gordon flips out, becomes Batman and Bruce is the one that sort of pulls him back to sanity, becoming his Robin.

I'm bored to tears with all of the foreshadowing of things we already know are going to happen. I would respect the series ten times more if they would sack up and become their own unique thing.

Hell, if nothing else it's stuff like this that would make the fanboy wetdreams of an Infinity Crisis movie worth doing. Imagine Ben Affleck / Joseph Gordon Levitt / Ben Mackenzie all meeting up in costume with a story to tell.
blackandyellow
blackandyellow - 11/20/2014, 9:53 AM
This and Comic Book Men are the only comic book shows I really like.
blackandyellow
blackandyellow - 11/20/2014, 9:56 AM
Gotham isn't intended for the comic book fanboys and the diehard Batman fans. It's aimed at the other 95% of the population. The average person watching has no idea that Edward Nygma will eventually become the Riddler or that Sionis will become Black Mask and they don't give a shit either.
Pasto
Pasto - 11/20/2014, 9:57 AM
Gotham isn't a bad comic book show, it's just an awful TV show in general. From the acting to the script it's just plain awful.
FirstAvenger
FirstAvenger - 11/20/2014, 9:57 AM
Bruce and Selina are toast.
blackandyellow
blackandyellow - 11/20/2014, 9:58 AM
LMAO yeah I saw it.
batz11
batz11 - 11/20/2014, 9:59 AM
I only want lesbians on this show, entire show of filthy lesbians...
rebellion
rebellion - 11/20/2014, 9:59 AM
i have an idea - kill the show
JoeMomma29
JoeMomma29 - 11/20/2014, 10:00 AM
@blackandyellow

You are so correct with your statement, and with over six million viewers watching this on a highly competitive Monday lineup the show is doing very well.

Pasto
Pasto - 11/20/2014, 10:02 AM
I love how Ben McKenzie always looks like he just sucked on a lemon before he acted in a scene.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 11/20/2014, 10:03 AM
@blackandyellow

I don't think so. If the show is aimed at people who don't know all of these references and foreshadowing and teasing, then why do all of it? Most of these characters will never be shown in their "villain persona" anyway, as the series won't last that long. I think Gotham gets by with most people on being a slightly-campy police drama, but the specific villain teasing is aimed directly at the fans.
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 11/20/2014, 10:05 AM
I still haven't watched this weeks episode. I got about 6 minutes in once and then just started surfing the internet... Not even anything interesting...
batfan175
batfan175 - 11/20/2014, 10:08 AM
Criticising GOT when your own show does not bring in better numbers and does not get better reviews is...kinda dumb.
sickboy76
sickboy76 - 11/20/2014, 10:11 AM
Haha I call bullsh#t, wants people to be worried for the cliff hanger mid season finale when we're clearly not.
EhMaybeSays
EhMaybeSays - 11/20/2014, 10:18 AM
Kill Barbara, Mooney, Maroni and Condiment King.
Nivekian
Nivekian - 11/20/2014, 10:21 AM
If they did like Arrow, a modern Batman show with flashbacks (much like Arro & The Flash) we would be cheering it on. But the concept they are running with, it isn't a good long term plan. You cannot have a Batman based show without the Goddamn Batman. People WILL reject it.
teinen
teinen - 11/20/2014, 10:23 AM
Shows terrible.
Nobody wants shows that consist of every character in the story except the one the stories about.
Nivekian
Nivekian - 11/20/2014, 10:24 AM
also, the GOT comparison is stupid, because Ned Stark didn't have a 75 year fanbase. He was killed off in the first book/ first season, he wasn't ever a long term character. This guy sounds like a damn fool for even comparing Gotham to Game of Thrones.
McGee
McGee - 11/20/2014, 10:28 AM
One more day...until I post my editorial on Ezra Miller.
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