The Watchmen Debacle - A Producer's Perspective.

The Watchmen Debacle - A Producer's Perspective.

This is a very revealing and infuriating "open letter" from someone who tried to get the Watchmen on film for 15+ years--Lloyd Levin.

By ComicBookMovie - Jan 08, 2009 05:01 PM EST
Filed Under: Watchmen

An open letter...

Who is right? In the Watchmen dispute between Warner Brothers and Fox that question is being discussed, analyzed, argued, tried and ruled on in a court of law. That's one way to answer the question - It is a fallback position in our society for parties in conflict to resolve disputes. And there are teams of lawyers and a highly regarded Federal Judge trying to do just that, which obviates any contribution I could make towards answering the "who is right" question within a legal context. But after 15 plus years of involvement in the project, and a decade more than that working in the movie business, I have another perspective, a personal perspective that I believe important to have on the public record.

No one is more keenly aware of the irony of this dispute than Larry Gordon and I who have been trying to get this movie made for many years. There's a list of people who have rejected the viability of a movie based on Alan Moore and Dave Gibbon's classic graphic novel that reads like a who's who of Hollywood.

We've been told the graphic novel is unfilmable.

After 9/11 some felt the story's themes were too close to reality ever to be palatable to a mainstream audience.

There were those who considered the project but who wished it were somehow different: Could it be a buddy movie, or a team-up movie or could it focus on one main character; did it have to be so dark; did so many people have to die; could it be stripped of its flashback structure; could storylines be eliminated; could new storylines be invented; did it have to be so long; could the blue guy put clothes on... The list of dissatisfactions for what Watchmen is was as endless as the list of suggestions to make it something it never was.

Also endless are the list of studio rejections we accrued over the years. Larry and I developed screenplays at five different studios. We had two false starts in production on the movie. We were involved with prominent and commercial directors. Big name stars were interested. In one instance hundreds of people were employed, sets were being built - An A-list director and top artists in the industry were given their walking papers when the studio financing the movie lost faith.

After all these years of rejection, this is the same project, the same movie, over which two studios are now spending millions of dollars contesting ownership. Irony indeed, and then some.

Through the years, inverse of the lack of studio faith has been the passionate belief by many many individuals - movie professionals who were also passionate fans of the graphic novel - who, yes, wanted to work on the film, but more for reasons of just wanting to see the movie get made, to see this movie get made and made right, donated their time and talent to help push the film forward: Writers gave us free screenplay drafts; conceptual art was supplied by illustrators, tests were performed gratis by highly respected actors and helped along and put together by editors, designers, prop makers and vfx artists; we were the recipients of donated studio and work space, lighting and camera equipment. Another irony, given the commercial stakes implied by the pitched legal dispute between Fox and Warners, is that for years Watchmen has been a project that has survived on the fumes of whatever could be begged, borrowed and stolen - A charity case for all intents and purposes. None of that effort, none of that passion and emotional involvement, is considered in the framework of this legal dispute.

From my point of view, the flashpoint of this dispute, came in late spring of 2005. Both Fox and Warner Brothers were offered the chance to make Watchmen. They were submitted the same package, at the same time. It included a cover letter describing the project and its history, budget information, a screenplay, the graphic novel, and it made mention that a top director was involved.

And it's at this point, where the response from both parties could not have been more radically different.

The response we got from Fox was a flat "pass." That's it. An internal Fox email documents that executives there felt the script was one of the most unintelligible pieces of shit they had read in years. Conversely, Warner Brothers called us after having read the script and said they were interested in the movie - yes, they were unsure of the screenplay, and had many questions, but wanted to set a meeting to discuss the project, which they promptly did. Did anyone at Fox ask to meet on the movie? No. Did anyone at Fox express any interest in the movie? No. Express even the slightest interest in the movie? Or the graphic novel? No.

From there, the executives at Warner Brothers, who weren't yet completely comfortable with the movie, made a deal to acquire the movie rights and we all started to creatively explore the possibility of making Watchmen. We discussed creative approaches and started offering the movie to directors, our former director having moved on by then. After a few director submissions, Zack Snyder came onboard, well before the release of his movie 300. In fact, well before its completion. This was a gut, creative call by Larry, me and the studio... Zack didn't have a huge commercial track record, yet we all felt he was the right guy for the movie.

Warner Brothers continued to support, both financially and creatively, the development of the movie. And eventually, after over a year of work, they agreed to make the film, based on a script that, for what it's worth, was by and large very similar to the one Fox initially read and deemed an unintelligible piece of shit.

Now here's the part that has to be fully appreciated, if for nothing more than providing insight into producing movies in Hollywood: The Watchmen script was way above the norm in length, near 150 pages, meaning the film could clock in at close to 3 hours, the movie would not only be R rated but a hard R - for graphic violence and explicit sex - would feature no stars, and had a budget north of $100M. We also asked Warner Brothers to support an additional 1 to 1.5 hours of content incurring additional cost that would tie in with the movie but only be featured in DVD iterations of the film. Warners supported the whole package and I cannot begin to emphasize how ballsy and unprecedented a move this was on the part of a major Hollywood studio. Unheard of. And would another studio in Hollywood, let alone a studio that didn't show one shred of interest in the movie, not one, have taken such a risk? Would they ever have made such a commitment, a commitment to a film that defied all conventional wisdom?

Only the executives at Fox can answer that question. But if they were to be honest, their answer would have to be "No."

Shouldn't Warner Brothers be entitled to the spoils - if any -- of the risk they took in supporting and making Watchmen? Should Fox have any claim on something they could have had but chose to neither support nor show any interest in?

Look at it another way... One reason the movie was made was because Warner Brothers spent the time, effort and money to engage with and develop the project. If Watchmen was at Fox the decision to make the movie would never have been made because there was no interest in moving forward with the project.

Does a film studio have the right to stand in the way of an artistic endeavor and determine that it shouldn't exist? If the project had been sequestered at Fox, if Fox had any say in the matter, Watchmen simply wouldn't exist today, and there would be no film for Fox to lay claim on. It seems beyond cynical for the studio to claim ownership at this point.

By his own admission, Judge Feess is faced with an extremely complex legal case, with a contradictory contractual history, making it difficult to ascertain what is legally right. Are there circumstances here that are more meaningful, which shed light on what is ultimately just, to be taken into account when assessing who is right? In this case, what is morally right, beyond the minutiae of decades-old contractual semantics, seems clear cut.

For the sake of the artists involved, for the hundreds of people, executives and filmmakers, actors and crew, who invested their time, their money, and dedicated a good portion of their lives in order to bring this extraordinary project to life, the question of what is right is clear and unambiguous - Fox should stand down with its claim.

My father, who was a lawyer and a stickler for the minutiae of the law, was always quick to teach me that the determination of what is right and wrong was not the sole purview of the courts. I bet someone at Fox had a parent like mine who instilled the same sense of fairness and justice in them.

Lloyd Levin

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Hyson
Hyson - 1/8/2009, 5:07 PM
"We've been told the graphic novel is unfilmable."

This is the only resonating theme of the letter for me. Mr. Levin is quite the crier but correct that the novel is unfilmable. It was a shame that his father, the lawyer, wasn't around to help Fox in the litigation process. I am sure Mr. Levin Sr. would have fought for the squid that I rightfully deserve. Alan Moore's voodoo reigns supreme once more.
Spock
Spock - 1/8/2009, 5:24 PM
Interesting history most didn't know about. Hyson if the movie was unfilmable we wouldn't be here today.
NoobMike
NoobMike - 1/8/2009, 6:29 PM
Damn, this must be really complicated if the team behind it is starting to boo-hoo. I still believe that Gordon is either stupid or a scammer.

If what was right was what drove this world, things would happen so much differently, sadly enough it is not. If a company's competition makes a huge mistake, said company will take advantage of the mistake for what it's worth and try to bury their competition. I do believe that people should do what is right, but corporations don't work like that.

This seems like a desperate cry for help to the fans from the production team, to put pressure on Fox. If Gordon says he doesn't have recollection for negotiating the distribution rights and now they are asking for help from the fans.... this is getting ugly. It sure doesn't help when he states "that the project has survived from the fumes of what was given, borrowed and STOLEN (like the distribution rights?)".

Guess we'll have to wait until either Jan 12 or 20 to see how this all plays out. Somehow I see a bootlegged version being leaked to the internet in a not too distant future, better get your bittorrents ready.
doomsack
doomsack - 1/8/2009, 8:04 PM
This is nothing I didn't already know. Fox still sucks ass and I am still in full boycott until watchmen comes out.
adamant877
adamant877 - 1/8/2009, 10:43 PM
Hyson-
You sound like some kind of Emo/Crybaby... Every time I see your stupid avatar on any one of these message boards, I sigh knowing I'm about to hear another one of your cynical, self-absorbed, tyrannical barbs.
Alan Moore was an excellent writer, but the guy, quite honestly, is a prick. And you Sir, sound like you have your nose squarely up the darkest recesses of his backside.

BTW: Mark my words, the film is already completed, ergo...
"Even if Warner's doesn't distribute the film FOX WILL!!!"
(dumb@$$)
adamant877
adamant877 - 1/8/2009, 10:47 PM
This film adaptation looks beautiful, and I'm comforted knowing that it sat squarely on the shoulders of Zack Snyder.
Submarijuaner
Submarijuaner - 1/9/2009, 12:56 AM
If anyone should have a nose up their ass at all times it's Alan Moore!

Of course it's technically filmable, much of the art works perfectly in this sense, but that's still just scraping the surface. I don't think we need a watchmen movie, it already works great as it is! To me it's like the Beatles vs Howlin Wolf. I want REAL SOUL, not something packaged for the masses.

And Dawn of the dead was the best remake ever, but 300 was just depressing.
Hyson
Hyson - 1/9/2009, 1:47 AM
adamant877: Should I feel honoured that you took the time to post about how much of an emo cynic I am? Call me what you will, but you still have to acknowledge that most of my posts are on-topic, relevant, and critical. Do you feel as if I am somehow forcing you to read my posts? To envelop yourself in my cynical, self-abosrbed, and tyrannical barb? Isn't it just a shame that many of these comments do not have the wit sharp enough to pierce another? Also, I do not attack the actual persons of the comicbookmovie.com community, only argue with their ideas. Because of this, your comment makes you seem fairly dull. Moore is a very angry man. If you were an artist or creator of some sort, you might empathize. And equal to me, neither one of us knows whether Snyder's Watchmen is a failure or not. You say it looks good; I say it looks bad. Move on.

Anyways, Levin's perspective is exaggerated and filled with ridiculous bravado. I see right through it. I see the wonderful green paper as Fox does. Dollar bills with squids on them.
WeaponX
WeaponX - 1/9/2009, 9:19 AM
How impassioned, too bad his buddy Gordon didn't cover his bases before, during or even after the film was made.

Morals, ethics and prinicpals do not apply in business.

FOX are jerk offs, Warner Bros. are clueless and Larry Gordon tried to slip the matter of buying out the rest of the contract between the cracks.

I'm sure we'll see Watchmen eventually, I'm not too worried about that. But Larry Gordon is the one to look at for this whole mess for telling everyone involved it was cool to go with it, when he didn't fully own the right to do so.

What a knob.
head
head - 1/9/2009, 9:42 AM
Hyson

i was against you and everything you said till i saw "I see the wonderful green paper as Fox does. Dollar bills with squids on them."

/clap
crappybumbum
crappybumbum - 1/10/2009, 1:47 PM
Jeez Hyson just reminded me that Alan Moore put a curse on this movie did he not? Dammit...
xaosjerk
xaosjerk - 1/10/2009, 3:31 PM
I agree with what the man is saying, though as a producer I imagine he'd be able to argue the opposite just as strongly (though not as convincingly since he'd be wrong and I'd know he was wrong) if it were in his financial interest to do so.
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