MS. MARVEL Head Writer Confirms A Lot Of The Clandestines' Scenes And Backstory Were Cut From The Show

MS. MARVEL Head Writer Confirms A Lot Of The Clandestines' Scenes And Backstory Were Cut From The Show

Ms. Marvel Head Writer Bisha K. Ali has revealed that many of the Clandestines' scenes ended up failing to make it into the Disney+ series, and explains what sort of character development we missed...

By JoshWilding - Jul 14, 2022 06:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Ms. Marvel
Source: Variety

Ms. Marvel was a fun ride, and one that ended with a reveal that was bigger than we could have ever anticipated. However, if it dropped the ball anywhere, it's with the Clandestines. 

We know the villains wanted to return to their home in the Noor Dimension and that the only way to do so was by taking that bangle from Kamala Khan. But almost as quickly as they appeared, they turned on the teenager, got imprisoned, and then broke out and died in quick succession. It was underwhelming to say the least, but we may now have a better idea as to why.

Talking to Variety, Ms. Marvel Head Writer Bisha K. Ali admitted that a lot of the Clandestines' scenes and backstory were cut from the show, which is a surprise seeing as those middle chapters were relatively short. 

"It’s worth saying that they aren’t djinn. In Episode 4, they overtly say they aren’t djinn," she explains. "The other piece as well is in Episode 3, when Najma tells her that people call us the djinn - it’s the worst possible thing [Kamala] could be. It is, emotionally, a nightmare. That’s what takes her to the point where she says,'“Well, I can’t be a superhero.'"

"I would say that a lot is missing. There are, like, essays we’ve written about the Clandestines, the Noor dimension, the Red Daggers and about how it’s all connected to everything else. There are huge swathes of character arcs that for the purpose of being able to make this in the time that we had, with the situation that changed [due to] COVID - I think we miss out a lot on some of the parallels between the two different kinds of families. I think we’ve missed out a lot on some of the character development for the Clandestines."

"We’re a six-hour television show. We’re never going to be able to have a universe completely subsumed by another," Ali continues. "But the key function of that for me, emotionally for Kamala’s character, was figuring out how she’s going to deal with these difficult situations when things get spicy when she comes home."

The writer also addressed Damage Control's role in the series, explaining that they wanted to show Agent Deever going rogue and use a fictional government agency to "put the analogy in clearer light in terms of the over-policing, the profiling and the surveillance of Muslims." However, Ali added that this doesn't necessarily mean the organisation is all bad.

This makes sense seeing as they'll appear in She-Hulk: Attorney at Law, but Ms. Marvel has raised some very interesting questions. Unfortunately, Marvel Studios has yet to release any deleted scenes for its Disney+ TV shows, so if there is more to the Clandestines, we'll have to just imagine what that is because the show ultimately struggled to do them justice. 

All six episodes of Ms. Marvel are now streaming on Disney+.

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bobevanz
bobevanz - 7/14/2022, 6:45 AM
Everything everywhere cut all at once. Also, wtf was that Munsters movie trailer
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 7/14/2022, 7:10 AM
With all these cuts and last minute changes it makes me wonder why Marvel doesn't do the tie-in comics anymore. Or even a 15 minute animated short or narrative experience on Disney+ giving us some more backstory on specific characters prior to the events or during the events of a show we don't get to see. Sort of like those animated comics Marvel used to have.
pmackattack
pmackattack - 7/14/2022, 7:24 AM
@SonOfAGif - I think that’s a great idea. There has to be a cheap alternative to flesh out stories while keeping the vision of the original show/movie as the creators see it.

I’d guess there’d be a huge market for it. I don’t read comics and I’d still be interested in learning more about things related to this world.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 7/14/2022, 7:48 AM
8 episodes
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 7/14/2022, 7:49 AM
Makes sense, there were a number of flaws centered around them. Again, 6 episodes is too few. Make it 8.
Radders
Radders - 7/14/2022, 8:04 AM
Maybe write and create something you can do instead of choosing to complicate the origin.

Clandestines were hollow with no clear objective and rapidly switching attitudes. Nakia served no real purpose, the Red Daggers were just an exposition dump and could have been dropped - the whole Pakistan bit could have ben dropped if they were struggling to fit everthing in, basically there was plenty of stuff that could have been dropped to tighten it up.

But yep the family stuff worked overall.

OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 7/14/2022, 8:11 AM
They should've had one episode between 3 and 4 where Kamala gets to really meet and build relationships with the Clandestine and then have the next episode be the wedding and betrayal. As it stands, they lacked depth, and really all they needed to do was focus on the main member
demery
demery - 7/14/2022, 8:16 AM
You don't say.
Blastaar
Blastaar - 7/14/2022, 8:22 AM
My expectations were REEEEEEEALLY low for this show, and it turned out to be one of, if not my favorite of the Disney + Marvel shows.

I know EXACTLY where they filmed those scenes. LOL!!!...And it DEFINITLEY was NOT Jersey City. They shot the show in my town in the "A".

They shot scenes for Black Panther 2 in an office park a couple of miles away from where I live too.

And KAMALA is OFFICIALLY the FIRST announced/acknowledged MUTANT in the MCU!!!
I'm cool with her retcons, they are working so far, the power set is MUCH better than in the comics too, not too far away but I LOVE the additions.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 7/14/2022, 4:55 PM
''We’re a six-hour television show''

The thing is, you're not. And that kinda bothers me. They shows clock in at around 4.5 hours without credits, and I don't see why. There around any breaks or commercials they have to take into account within that hour like cabal tv.

Anyway, I think they could've used some more scenes. Felt they turned evil a little to quickly without a ton of explanation.
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