WHAT IF...? Scrapped Episodes Included Captain HYDRA And Loki Wielding Mjolnir In Thor's Place

WHAT IF...? Scrapped Episodes Included Captain HYDRA And Loki Wielding Mjolnir In Thor's Place

What If...?'s Head Writer and director has shared some scrapped concepts from the animated series, including a villainous turn for Steve Rogers and a version of Loki who would have wielded Mjolnir...

By JoshWilding - Aug 13, 2021 03:08 AM EST
Filed Under: What If
Source: Vanity Fair

What If...? promises to take us to some crazy new versions of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but there were some concepts that didn't make it into the series. Vanity Fair has the scoop on some of them following a conversation with Head Writer A.C. Bradley and director Bryan Andrews, including a monstrous take on Spider-Man and a version of Iron Man who blasted into outer space alongside Pepper Potts. 

However, one of the most intriguing would have explored the fallout from Captain America falling off that train instead of Bucky Barnes. "My idea was, if Steve fell off the train, we would jump forward in time," Bradley explains, revealing that this Captain HYDRA was going to be the polar opposite of The Winter Soldier by working in the open as the organisation's representative. 

"Steve Rogers is the kind of man that when he believes something is right, he goes to the ends of the Earth to do it. But he actually is not a very good soldier. He doesn’t follow orders," the writer says. "So if he’s brainwashed by Hydra to believe that Hydra is right, he’s going to go full throttle."

With that, Peggy Carter, Howard Stark, and Bucky would have head teamed up to take down Captain HYDRA with an assist from an unexpected ally. "The fun twist is that it would have been Red Skull, who has now been replaced by Captain HYDRA. They would have had to stop [Rogers] and then make him remember who he really is."

We're not entirley sure why this didn't happen, but we can only hope Marvel Studios has live-action plans for this villainous version of the character. 

Of course, What If...? isn't the only Marvel series to launch on Disney+ this year, and the team working on the animated show soon learned that they had to avoid focusing too much on the leaks from WandaVision, The Falcon and The Winter Soldier, and Loki

"We had Loki with Thor’s hammer, like Loki was worthy," Andrews confirms. "At first it seems superficial, but how do you get to that point without changing who he is? You’re given a thousand questions to answer. It’s like, Oh, did he stay a Frost Giant? Was Odin not a dick and taught him better? You know what I mean? There are so many aspects of that life you can explore."

"They didn’t want us to go there because basically they were doing that in the Loki series."

It sounds like Marvel Studios already has season two of What If...? mapped out, so we shouldn't bank on seeing these concepts revisited for the time being. Still, it's always fun to ask, "what if...?"

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Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 8/13/2021, 3:51 AM
Damn shame.

Would've loved to see some rustled jimmies.

Like last time, you know.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 8/13/2021, 8:01 AM
@Doomsday8888 - yooou! I’ve got my eye on you!
Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 8/13/2021, 3:59 AM
Wait so Steve becoming a sort of winter soldier was in the cards but changed? That would have been a lot cooler.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 8/13/2021, 8:02 AM
@Mrcool210 - would’ve been a lot colder

I’ll leave my coat.
Drace24
Drace24 - 8/13/2021, 1:54 PM
@Mrcool210 - Feels like that could have been a cool sequel to the Captain Carter episode. Steve was captured by Hydra after all. (Why did they even spare him? He was just lying next to the Hydra Stomper when they picked him up and brought... home...

OH MY GAAAAWD! Steve is a sleeper agent!
Kurne
Kurne - 8/13/2021, 4:01 AM
Lol, this is exactly what I thought was going to happen until they found Steve later in the episode.
ElricReturns
ElricReturns - 8/13/2021, 4:19 AM
@Kurne - me too, till I realized they were baiting the dance too much for them to not bring it back up later like in the original movie.
PhoenixBlade
PhoenixBlade - 8/13/2021, 4:11 AM
I think it could be quite powerful if Loki’s arc in the MCU ends with him wielding Mjolnir. This whole arc about self hatred to self love to becoming worthy. Perhaps even make it a scene where Odin witnesses it, either in the past or in an alternate universe. You could have this meaningful speech from Odin where he echoes Thor’s “I knew it”, but a lot more poignant.
Repian
Repian - 8/13/2021, 4:24 AM
@SamaelSaint - It would be fun to see this new variant on Loki.

KWilly
KWilly - 8/13/2021, 5:11 AM
@Repian - Wow. Had no idea he auditioned for Thor. He did not have the physique/voice for someone like Thor, so good choice Marvel lol
PhoenixBlade
PhoenixBlade - 8/13/2021, 5:31 AM
@Repian - No doubt there’s a universe where Tom’s Thor and Chris is Loki and hopefully it’s at the very least mentioned… somehow. Maybe in a passing joke where Loki mockingly says “Oh I guess somewhere I’m Thor.” And then Mobius or someone would reply by saying that the possibilities are limitless so there’s probably a bunch of versions of him as Thor.
Mugens
Mugens - 8/13/2021, 4:40 AM
I'm trying to remember, might have to go through my old comics to refresh my memory, but didn't the bad Steve Rogers/Captain America already happen in the comics? Wasn't that bad of an arc too. Could have easily transferred to the Disney+ series.
Mugens
Mugens - 8/13/2021, 8:09 AM
@Waddles - Yeah there is that...:)
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 8/13/2021, 5:44 AM
That's a shame. The outrage was pretty damn hilarious.
L0RDbuckethead
L0RDbuckethead - 8/13/2021, 8:31 AM
@Reeds2Much -

MadThanos
MadThanos - 8/13/2021, 5:50 AM
Off course they scrapped, this whole series only exists to promote Captain Carter for Doctor Strange 2 in a cheaper way.

Mark my words, they'll stick to this character.
Whaley87
Whaley87 - 8/13/2021, 6:14 AM
@MadThanos - Seriously? You think it only exists as a stepping stone for Captain Carter and no other characters? Narrow minded view you've got there.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 8/13/2021, 5:51 AM
From Hydra Stomper to Hydra's biggest simp
Pakent
Pakent - 8/13/2021, 8:22 AM
We need an What If... Episode of Loki stealing Captain America's shield and becoming Captain Loki vs Spider Hulk
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 8/13/2021, 10:26 AM
That What If Steve fell off the train and became Captain Hydra does sound like a really interesting premise
Slotherin
Slotherin - 8/13/2021, 10:39 AM
These sound better than the ones they've been focusing on.
YonnyLayna
YonnyLayna - 8/13/2021, 1:10 PM
Sounds Better than Starlord Panther
marvel72
marvel72 - 8/13/2021, 1:46 PM
Yeah I would have enjoyed watching,even though they didn't make season 1 they may make season 2.
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