X-MEN: THE LAST STAND Writer Reveals Infamous "Juggernaut, B*tch" Line Was Not In His Shooting Script

X-MEN: THE LAST STAND Writer Reveals Infamous "Juggernaut, B*tch" Line Was Not In His Shooting Script

X-Men: The Last Stand co-writer Simon Kinberg has revealed that the movie's infamous exchange between the Juggernaut and Kitty Pryde as not in the original script he wrote with Zak Penn...

By MarkCassidy - Sep 04, 2023 11:09 AM EST
Filed Under: X-Men 3 The Last Stand

X-Men 3, aka X-Men: The Last Stand, is widely viewed as the worst entry in the franchise (or was, until Dark Phoenix), and is really only memorable for one moment in the final act when Juggernaut (Vinnie Jones) is chasing down Kitty Pryde (Elliot, then known as Ellen, Page).

As the seemingly unstoppable villain is closing in on the young mutant, she uses her abilities to phase him through the floor. Juggy then looks up angrily at his foe, and says: "Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, bitch," before bursting free and resuming the chase.

The line was inspired by a parody dub video of the '90s X-Men: The Animated series that was created in 2005 by Randy Hayes and Xavier Nazario of My Way Entertainment, and went on to spawn numerous memes. The dialogue always seemed out of place in the movie, and co-writer Simon Kinberg has now revealed that it wasn't actually part of the final script he submitted with Zak Penn.

During an interview with Polygon, Kinberg confirmed that director Brett Ratner added the line after principal photography had already wrapped: "The real [story] on that is that was a reshoot Ratner line."

Ratner took over when original director Matthew Vaughn left the project over creative differences, and it sounds like it would have been a very different film had he stayed on board.

"With Matthew, it was a major departure from Bryan Singer, who had directed the first two movies," Kinberg continues. "Matthew himself is a world builder — or maybe more than a world builder, a tone builder. He wanted to do something tonally very different than the previous two films. And so we were really in the script phase, even through pre-production, because Matthew was aboard for a long time.

And so it felt like, even though we weren’t creating an entirely new universe, because Bryan had obviously done an amazing job of building the foundation with the first two films, and all of those decades’ worth of incredible comics, we were creating a new tone within that world and new rules. I think you saw that tone in X-Men: First Class. But it was a real sci-fi sandbox."

Disney acquired the rights to Fox's assets back in 2017, and a Marvel Studios X-Men reboot is planned (though it's been a long time since we had any solid updates).

The upcoming Deadpool 3 is expected to bring back a few Fox era characters (in addition to Hugh Jackman's Wolverine), however, and will hopefully serve as a better farewell to the original big-screen incarnation of the team than Dark Phoenix.

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TheyDont
TheyDont - 9/4/2023, 11:15 AM
Best line in the whole movie.
Gizmoduck
Gizmoduck - 9/4/2023, 11:23 AM
@TheyDont - i remember prior to the film hoping they would add that line

Conquistador
Conquistador - 9/4/2023, 12:32 PM
@TheyDont - agreed. The movie was a mess but i think the reference to that fan edit got more xmen fans that they lost. 🤣

Also I'd argue that Apocalypse was worse that Dark Pheonix. Just watched it yesterday, it wasn't terrible.
mountainman
mountainman - 9/4/2023, 1:41 PM
@UniqNo - I find Dark Phoenix to be the worst of the modern X-Men movies. Probably right above origins as the second worst one Fox made overall.

Apocalypse wasn’t much better, but i’d place it above Dark Phoenix any day.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 9/4/2023, 2:08 PM
@mountainman - I dunno, i kind of admired the fact Kinberg at least tried to give us a better Dark Pheonix story this time around with some cosmic ties. Most of the budget probably went on the actors salary through renegotiations in having to come back for a 4th movie out of contract, not having Wolverine to rely on to promote the picture, the reshoots due to similarities with Captain Marvel (apparantly). I felt this time around the feeling and pathos of some of the characters were there compared to Apocalypse. The score aswell (prob the best of all the xmovies) had the movie feeling quite different to all the other ones.

I think what really let it down was the waste of Chastain's character as the villian, offing Lawrence's Mystique and sidelining Quicksilver (again i think down to renegotiations, mostly on Lawrence's part) Having her as a hero still didnt feel right aswell from the last movie.

If the rumours were true we may have gotten the skrulls and at least then it wouldnt have dulled the characters so much.

mountainman
mountainman - 9/4/2023, 4:42 PM
@UniqNo - With Apocalypse, I at least liked the intro in ancient Egypt and the final battle was one of the best in the series. But yeah the villain sucked and there was a lot of bad.

I just think Sophie Turner is a terrible actress and she didn’t pull it off to me. And Chastain was so boring. Those not-skrulls as villains were just really bad overall.

But we are splitting hairs here. I’m a huge fan of X-Men, X2, both Deadpool movies, First Class, DOFP, The Wolverine, and Logan. But the test of the Fox-Men movies were not good.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 9/4/2023, 5:19 PM
@mountainman -fair enough. Yeah, Turner's just kind of a pretty face. There has been flashes here and there of a bit of talent, but nothing long standing.

X2 will forever be my favourite. A combination of building off what the first did, the time in my life when it came out and that amazing opening Nightcrawler sequence. At the time that was peak. I know nowadays it kind of pales in comparison, but what Singer was able to pull off from that sequences was amazing.

I look forward to seeing mutants getting their time yo shine front and center when this multiverse ish finally comes to a close, but deadpool 3 will be a nice Swan song (if rumours are to be believed) and also appetiser for what may come next.
mountainman
mountainman - 9/4/2023, 5:53 PM
@UniqNo - DOFP edges X2 to me, but only barely. Both are excellent.

And yes, here’s hoping the MCU does it right!
Pathogen
Pathogen - 9/5/2023, 11:38 AM
@mountainman - If by "excellent" you mean the best out of a pile of crap...then...i guess?
mountainman
mountainman - 9/5/2023, 12:43 PM
@Pathogen - I legitimately like some of these movies. I know some people don’t. I’d place X2, DOFP, First Class, Deadpool and Logan above a lot of MCU stuff and all of phases 4 and 5, with the possible exception of No Way Home.

Only time will tell if the MCU will do better.
Pathogen
Pathogen - 9/5/2023, 3:17 PM
@mountainman - MCU has already done better, honestly even its worst movie got the essence of the characters way more than anything the x-men have put out (save maybe Logan, but I don't count that in the same class as xmen 1 through first class or whatever). Same with Deadpool, that is way above that, too
mountainman
mountainman - 9/5/2023, 3:25 PM
@Pathogen - To each their own I guess. I believe the peak of the Fox movies - X2, First Class, DOFP, Deadpool and Logan - are all great movies. If you don’t like them then that’s fine. Just in my opinion, I’d rather rewatch any of those than about 1/2 of the MCU.

Even if we just talk about source accuracy, even one of the best MCU movies, Civil War, deviated greatly from the source. Another MCU great, Guardians of the Galaxy, butchered the Nova Core. Another all time great, Infinity War, differed quite a bit from the Infinity Gauntlet story it was inspired by.

I’ll take a quality film over source accuracy. Magneto and Professor X’s arc in First Class can help me get over the issues that movie had for example. I enjoyed the opening Sentinel scene in DOFP, even though it was way different from the future painted in the comic.

Like I said before, we don’t know what the MCU mutants will look like. Only time will tell if they can do it better.
Origame
Origame - 9/4/2023, 11:18 AM
Infamous? That line was the best thing about the film.
MotherFuckerJon
MotherFuckerJon - 9/4/2023, 11:21 AM
Anyone ever seem the dub over for the animated series? It was prevalent around the time this movie came out. I always thought that's where they got that from.
BoW
BoW - 9/4/2023, 11:34 AM
@Mother[frick]erJon - Did you read the article?

"The line was inspired by a parody dub video of the '90s X-Men: The Animated series that was created in 2005 by Randy Hayes and Xavier Nazario of My Way Entertainment, and went on to spawn numerous memes."
MotherFuckerJon
MotherFuckerJon - 9/4/2023, 11:22 AM
"That's my spaceship, it's a mother[frick]in dodge"
KaptainKhaos
KaptainKhaos - 9/4/2023, 11:23 AM
OT: Jonathan Majors court date is on Wed, fingers crossed for good news
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 9/4/2023, 12:00 PM
@KaptainKhaos - What exactly would "good news" be?
I have (and none of us do because we weren't there) no idea of whether he's guilty or not of these charges, but either way, getting dragged into court on domestic violence charges is never a good look, win or lose.

We've only heard he said/she said "evidence" so far and none of that really matters in a court of law.
The alledged victim's side has evidence of cuts and bruises, while Major's lawyer insists she has evidence of his innocence.
You never know how these things will play out, but regardless, there is no real "good outcome" either way imo.
GameOn
GameOn - 9/4/2023, 2:24 PM
@KaptainKhaos - The only thing that could be considered good news is justice, and we may never know the truth enough to declare it that one way or another. I hope no one considers an acquittal based on lack of evidence “good news” just so we can keep seeing a dude play a supervillain.
Fares
Fares - 9/4/2023, 11:23 AM
That line was cinema
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 9/4/2023, 11:23 AM
Your loss, pal.

(To be fair, remove Vinnie Jones and it is especially questionable.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/4/2023, 11:29 AM
Vinnie Jones and that line were highlights in this movie. Much rather call the rest of the movie infamous
mountainman
mountainman - 9/4/2023, 1:43 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Kelsey Grammar was also a good Beast, but yeah not a lot of highlights in that movie.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/4/2023, 2:11 PM
@mountainman - totally forgot about him, he was great too. Aside from that, I just can't remember much. Was the scene with Magneto escaping prison using metal in someones blood also in X3? That was cool too
mountainman
mountainman - 9/4/2023, 4:29 PM
@bkmeijer1 - No that was X2, which was the best of that era. I really didn’t like much from 3 besides juggernaut (minus the terrible suit) and beast. I guess that version of Angel was better than the one we got in Apocalype.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/4/2023, 4:39 PM
@mountainman - then X2 really was the peak of 00s CBMs.

And yeah, I guess Angel was better than Apocalypse (which isn't a high bar ti clear admittedly). Him refusing the cure and flying out the building was a cool character moment.
mountainman
mountainman - 9/4/2023, 5:52 PM
@bkmeijer1 - I also seem to remember a cool Iceman / Pyro rivalry. And the “coming out” scene at Bobby’s parents house was well done. There were a few moments for sure.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/5/2023, 11:26 AM
@mountainman - oh yeah l, those were good too.

All these cool seperate moments makes me realize that X3 attempted way too much, and in that scuffle the Dark Phoenix story kinda got lost.
mountainman
mountainman - 9/5/2023, 12:41 PM
@bkmeijer1 - They shouldn’t have added the mutant cure story in. If it could have only been a Phoenix story it could have told it better. And maybe if Singer hadn’t left to do Superman. Dude is a creep, but he did pretty well directing the first two.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/5/2023, 2:31 PM
@mountainman - I rather they just left out the Phoenix story in. That felt more crammed in that the cure story. And I think it always will. Phoenix Saga is just not a one-movie story imo
mountainman
mountainman - 9/5/2023, 2:44 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Yeah I can see that. It would really have to be a trilogy to be done justice.

1) Intro of Starjammers, Shi’ar, Phoenix Force, Jean Dies at the end
2) Jean comes back, Hellfire club, continuing threads from part 1
3) The big showdown between all factions, Full Dark Phoenix mode
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/5/2023, 5:00 PM
@mountainman - can I add an ''4) Avengers vs. X-Men''? Because I kinda wanna see that as well.

Also, I think Hellfire Club could be set up in a show preceding a movie. Same with Brotherhood of Mutants. 'X-Men' can be the movies, 'The Mutants' the show
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 9/4/2023, 11:45 AM
BUT I'M THE JUGGERNAUT BIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch....
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 9/4/2023, 12:58 PM
@CorndogBurglar - Corndooooooooggg!
bobevanz
bobevanz - 9/4/2023, 11:52 AM
Ah when you're old enough to remember the meme... good times. Also this can't be true, but I wouldn't be surprised by the stupidity
S8R8M
S8R8M - 9/4/2023, 11:54 AM
I really wish we saw Vaughan's X3. And Days of Futures Past.
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