X-Men: What Days of Future Past could mean for the Apocalypse

X-Men: What Days of Future Past could mean for the Apocalypse

The guys over at Movie Maniacs ponder the implications of X-men Days of Future Past and the run on affect this will have on further instalments in the franchise from Apocalypse to X-Force.

Editorial Opinion
By BizarroGrif - Jun 01, 2014 07:06 AM EST
Source: Movie Maniacs

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“What’s the last thing you remember?” a question that is posed by Patrick Stewart’s Professor X in the closing scenes of Bryan Singer’s triumphant return to the X-Franchise. With so many stand-out moments for an audience to choose in the latest instalment from Fox – including James McAvoy’s powerful turn as a substance dependant Charles Xavier; the somewhat surprisingly charismatic portrayal of Quicksilver; or just the immensely satisfying badassery of the Terminator-esque future sequences – it is a challenge to boil it down to any specific element of what many people are toting as the best X-Film yet. However, one thing that seems is universal amongst audiences is the shared sense of relief now that the mistakes of certain lesser films in the series have been masterfully eradicated from the canon.


Most heinous of these mistakes was the maltreatment at the hands of Brett Ratner of core team members, Cyclops and Jean Grey; the former having been unceremoniously killed off in the opening scenes of the film and the latter defecting to the other side in a messy iteration of the cherished  Dark Phoenix character. Certainly, a lot of the blame also falls to Simon Kinberg as screenwriter who actually makes no secret of his guilt over The Last Stand fiasco and even goes as far as to claim in an interview with Empire magazine that his Days of Future Past script was a chance to atone for his past sins. And atone he did, essentially negating every film (aside from 2011’s First Class) that has come before it, as proved by the presence of Cyc and Jean alive and well in what is referred to as The Happy Mansion closing scene.

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But is it just an act of repentance that has drawn these two characters back to the fold or is there a more strategic reasoning behind this alteration of the timeline? It was announced sometime before the release of DOFP that the next instalment of the X-Franchise would be subtitled Apocalypse. If you were patient enough to wait out the credits and watch the stinger at the end of DOFP you will have seen a young Apocalypse (then known as En Sabbah Nur) constructing the pyramids of Egypt. Aficionados of the comics will know that the title refers to arguably the X-Men’s most dangerous foe: a near indestructible ancient mutant who, given the opportunity, eventually enslaves man and mutant kind alike. More importantly, this all but confirms the inclusion of Apocalypse’s arch nemesis: a grizzled time traveller and beloved fan favourite named Cable.

Here’s where it gets interesting. For those who don’t know, Cable – or to give him his full name, Nathan Dayspring Askani’son Summers – is a radical freedom fighter sent back to the present day from a future that sees Apocalypse’s tyrannical reign over the earth, to destroy the maniacal mutant and thus prevent the suffering of his own personal future. But Cable isn’t just any old run-of-the-mill time-travelling mutant: he has contracted a ‘techno-organic virus’ that has infected his left arm turning it to solid metal which he keeps in check with telekinesis so powerful he is arguably the strongest of his kind…oh, and he is the offspring of Jean Grey’s clone and Cyclops aka Scott Summers.

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This would suggest that their re-inclusion into the franchise was a necessity in order to properly portray Cable on film and give him his full backstory. This would also have the added effect of making the events of DOFP directly responsible for those in Apocalypse as it is the presence of a mutant as powerful as Cable that initially wakes the ancient mutant from his slumber. It is understood from Kinberg that the next film will keep the focus on the First Class team which as of yet is distinctly missing Jean and Scott form the roster. Perhaps this will be a way of introducing their younger selves as Cable jumps back to the 1980s in search of his parents for help.

Admittedly, the time travel element does ring a little too familiar after having just covered the same theme in DOFP. Kinberg himself has expressed the fatigue felt after juggling the timelines once already and it sounds that he is unwilling to do that again. However, for Cable to come back we are by no means talking about a balancing act of criss-crossing narratives in the same way as seen in DOFP. Cable’s future could simply be seen in a prologue and nothing more allowing for virtually all of the film to take place in the present day (or past…whatever, you know what I mean).

Since the announcement back in July 2013 that Fox intend on expanding the X-Universe with an X-Force feature film (the Cable led black-ops division of the X-Men) this prediction – or some approximation of it – would be a neat way of introducing key characters to new audiences. It should also be noted that this announcement came straight from Rob Liefield, creator of not only Cable but also the woefully mistreated Deadpool (as seen in X-Men Origins: Wolverine) who just so happens to also be a member of the X-Force roster. Those hoping to see the Merc with a Mouth given a second chance on screen may well be in luck. Either way, the possibilities are many and we will certainly be watching this space.

Read the full article here: http://www.themoviemaniacs.com/x-men-what-days-of-future-past-could-mean-for-the-apocalypse/
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MrBlackJack
MrBlackJack - 6/1/2014, 8:06 AM
I'm with Soto one this; it seems like they want to avoid as much time travel as possible from this point on and introducing Cable is not going to help keep the time travel to a minimum. If they do use him, it'll be interesting (and exciting) to see, although I doubt we'll see him.
MrBlackJack
MrBlackJack - 6/1/2014, 8:10 AM
It's also interesting that they're basing it on Age of Apocalypse, even though Kinberg has repeatedly mentioned throughout promotional tours that they want to avoid as much time travel as possible. So with all that said, I expect to see more liberties to be taken with Apocalypse than we was with DOFP.
MrBlackJack
MrBlackJack - 6/1/2014, 8:11 AM
I also doubt we'll see Legion in Apocalypse, but this is all just my early and baseless speculation.
Bearjew
Bearjew - 6/1/2014, 9:44 AM
You know it's weird but this was originally supposed to be a sequel to First Class but instead Bryan Singer made it all about Wolverine as usual. It's not a big deal but it's kind of annoying
Bearjew
Bearjew - 6/1/2014, 9:44 AM
Although Days of Future Past did rock the shit
sikwon
sikwon - 6/1/2014, 10:00 AM
How was Prof X alive in the future again?
HankPymp
HankPymp - 6/1/2014, 10:25 AM
@Sikwon: in X-3 Professor X was explaining the ability to move consciousness into a another person. That being the coma patient that was in the movie. The after credits scene shows the patient coming to life. Insinuating what Prof. X explained earlier. It was a last addition by the writers to make sure he could could come back. How that person ended up looking exactly like Patrick Stewart...??? I gave up asking questions after how much that movie infuriated me.
HankPymp
HankPymp - 6/1/2014, 10:25 AM
Hence the mid credits sequence of "The Wolverine".
BawbScharf
BawbScharf - 6/1/2014, 11:46 AM
There WILL have to be SOME time travel involved though. If this all takes place in the eighties there are absolutely NO stakes because we all know that everything is all well and good in the future. Going into it we know that Apocalypse will be defeated by at least 2000. Going into the past works for origin stories like First Class to see how people got to where they are but we need to believe that Apocalypse was some kind of threat in the eighties. We need to believe that when he arrives that humans and mutants alike are doomed. At the end of Days of Future Past, we didn't quite wake up in a distopian future.

So, some form of meddling in the time stream will probably happen ...though I think flat out Cable/Bishop physical time travel may not happen ...it will probably be more Butterfly Effect. But yeah, I think time travel will happen in some form.

But it is tricky due to the fact that THAT would make the last movie completely meaningless.

Here is how both could work without meaning the last film meant nothing:

To be a proper adaptation Xavier needs to die in the past before the 'second class.' Lets immediately cut off any means of 'physical time travel' so no Legion, Bishop, Rachel Gray, or Cable (at least as old time travelling Cable ...maybe X-Man) so we need to find other options. For this to work there needs to be an awareness of the time stream and there is only one mutant that can be used here: Destiny. Have her be one of Apocalypse's underlings and be aware of a moment in time where the course of history is MOST vulnerable as it goes to human and mutant rule; a moment that due to meddling from the future is able to manipulate also because of its importance to Human, Mutant relationships. This is obviously the showdown at the end of DOFP. Wolverine is dispatched, Magneto and Mystique are walking away ...THAT is when Apocalypse makes his move and murders Charles Xavier completely changing the future and leading to an Age of Apocalypse 1980 era.

Luckily there was some outs written into the last script (maybe not on purpose) in regards to not making DOFP useless. Mystique, Beast, and Magneto are both VERY aware that Charles Xavier was not supposed to be killed. Automatically the last movie is not useless but we now have brand new stakes. The solution would lie within the now walking Mcguffin of Wolverine and he could be re-purposed into the Bishop role (yeah, it is probably going to become a habit of throwing him into prominent positions held by others in the comics. He's already done it with Cyclops in the Phoenix Saga, Kitty in DOFP, and now Bishop in AoA). While Wolverine would have NO memory of the time travel at this time, it is as easy as pulling in a psychic to have him access those memories and re-purpose him to prevent Xavier's death.

But yeah, I don't what Kinberg is talking about. IF this is in the 80's and IF this the First Class cast and IF it is an adaptation of AoA then some kind of meddling in the time stream will need to be involved to make Apocalypse seem like a reasonable threat in the past.

All of this could have been avoided if DOFP ended with a cliffhanger death of Xavier ...perhaps even sacrificing himself for Trask.
gamecreatorjj
gamecreatorjj - 6/1/2014, 3:53 PM
I think to make cable work, they would have to change him a bit to keep it from being DOFP 2. Maybe he is hunting Apocalypse through time and that leads him to the X-Men. Maybe Apocalypse or Sinister bring him in to play mind games with Jean and Scott.
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 6/2/2014, 1:11 AM
You have an interesting take on assumptions based on what the audience could expect from Age of Apocalypse. I'm not getting my hopes up for Cable, i would like for the character to be in AoA but i have my doubts. I do believe that Sinister will be in AoA and so could Gambit. Also, it would be a great way to introduce Angel in AoA as one of the four horsemen then have him be saved and then have the character join the X-men.
JoJo1982
JoJo1982 - 6/2/2014, 12:48 PM
@omega

Are up talking about that kid in the beginning of the movie?
Find it hard to believe that's Nate Grey, since Jean grey has been dead for 17 years
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