ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA And BLACK PANTHER: WAKANDA FOREVER Are Going To Be Released In China

ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA And BLACK PANTHER: WAKANDA FOREVER Are Going To Be Released In China

Marvel Studios is finally returning to the Middle Kingdom, with Black Panther: Wakanda Forever and Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania now confirmed for release in China. Find more details right here...

By JoshWilding - Jan 17, 2023 07:01 AM EST

It appears China is finally willing to give Marvel Studios another chance because Black Panther: Wakanda Forever and Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania have both secured release dates in the Middle Kingdom. It's been three and a half years since an MCU movie was allowed to play in theaters in the country so this is a very big deal. 

The Black Panther sequel may not find a huge audience there because it isn't coming out until February 7, a week after its Disney+ across the rest of the world. As a result, piracy is bound to be an issue, though we can't help but wonder whether this release will be enough to push it from $835 million to somewhere near that all-important $1 billion mark. 

As for the next Ant-Man movie, it's arriving in China the same day as the rest of the world: February 17. That's fantastic news for Peyton Reed's threequel and could help push the Avengers-level event to $1 billion with relative ease. 

For proof of that, look no further than Avatar: The Way of Water, a movie that's earned over $220 million in the country. 

So, why are these MCU movies the first to be released in China since 2019's Spider-Man: Far From Home? Well, with the Chinese Communist Party celebrating its 100th anniversary and holding 20th National Congress, it's thought there was a lot of fear about releasing Marvel movies at a time when there was so much uncertainty within the country. No one wanted to upset their superiors, and it appears Hollywood blockbusters were at risk of doing so given the cultural differences.

Marvel Studios has lost a lot of money since 2019 (it may top $1 billion given how busy Phase 4 was), and for an idea of how these sequels may perform, look no further than Ant-Man and The Wasp ($121 million) and Black Panther ($105 million) in 2018.

Will Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 and The Marvels follow? That remains to be seen.  

Stay tuned for updates.

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Vigor
Vigor - 1/17/2023, 7:30 AM
I'm surprised considering there's two gay characters in black panther 2. And we know how backwards they are
Usernametaken
Usernametaken - 1/17/2023, 7:37 AM
@Vigor - don’t worry, with some clever editing and a bit of damage control from Disney, it will be worth the bucks they get out of it.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 1/17/2023, 7:42 AM
@Vigor - Maybe it will be like the Sailor Moon's old USA dubs where they are just "cousins" lol
eddyxx
eddyxx - 1/17/2023, 7:51 AM
@Vigor - I watched a pirated version of the movie and that kissing scene is edited out. They just say hi to each other and it skips right pass the kiss.
CAPTAINPINKEYE
CAPTAINPINKEYE - 1/17/2023, 7:32 AM
cool. I can't even imagine living in a country where they have issues with these movies being shown to the public. I hope they had a chance to see Thor just to share in the horror we all had to go through. ;)
Conquistador
Conquistador - 1/17/2023, 7:34 AM
HAHAHAHA! i don't know why i find this so funny.
Usernametaken
Usernametaken - 1/17/2023, 7:38 AM
So happy for Disney investors and top management, they’ll finally be able to afford that 3rd yachts they always wanted.

Meanwhile in the vfx department :

« While an average feature-length superhero or sci-fi movie might have 1,600 visual effects, he says this ten-hour show (which he cannot specifically name per a nondisclosure agreement he signed) would require around 3,000 VFX shots to be completed on a much shorter timeline. Nonetheless, feature-quality work was expected, which could include anything from replacing actors’ faces to rendering entire CG sequences from scratch. Confronted with the prospect of what he was told would be 18-hour days, seven days a week, for three months straight, Patch walked away from the contract. “They said, ‘Okay, well, do you want a job on our next show?’ And I said, ‘No.’” »

https://www.vulture.com/2023/01/inside-the-vfx-union-brewing-in-hollywood.html?utm_medium=s1&utm_source=tw&utm_campaign=vulture
hummingbird68
hummingbird68 - 1/17/2023, 8:37 AM
@Usernametaken - That really sucks for your friend, but since Marvel has no 10 hour / 10 episode shows, kinda confused why you're mentioning it here, unless to say ALL COMPANIES are exploiting VFX workers ? (BTW That goes for all the Disney+ shows, none of them are in 10 parts or are 10 hours)
REMIMARKS
REMIMARKS - 1/17/2023, 7:40 AM
I remember when the first Black Panther came out, there were several reviews from there that mentioned the movie being "too black". https://qz.com/quartzy/1231764/the-story-behind-the-racist-responses-to-black-panther-in-china
Mugens
Mugens - 1/17/2023, 7:55 AM
@REMIMARKS - Yeah not that surprised. China has never been that welcoming of any movie that had a centralized Black cast. Even changing movie posters to remove Black actors even when they were important characters in a given movie. Any substantial money BP2 makes in that country will be just short of a miracle, just as the first BP movie did.
Kadara
Kadara - 1/17/2023, 11:08 AM
@REMIMARKS - That was a good read, thanks!
DoubleD
DoubleD - 1/17/2023, 7:42 AM
GREAT NEWS! China the only reason that kept Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness hitting 1 Billion Worldwide. Will Black Panther hit 1 billion?

DOMESTIC = $411,331,607
INTERNATIONAL = $544,444,197

WORLDWIDE = $955,775,804

bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/17/2023, 8:02 AM
@DoubleD - thought it was at 850 or something. 50 million should be doable with China, but a 150 million I doubt it
Taonrey
Taonrey - 1/17/2023, 8:48 AM
@bkmeijer1 - how much did the last one make it china? They could delay the Disney+ release, it might help
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/17/2023, 9:18 AM
@Taonrey - Think around a 100 million?

Don't see them delaying it on Disney+ though. Have they even rolled out Disney+ in China yet?
eddyxx
eddyxx - 1/17/2023, 7:45 AM
Antman is not coming anywhere near a billion. You are so clueless about box office. This hurt my brain.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 1/17/2023, 10:20 AM
@eddyxx - If you don't think AM3 has $B capabilities, I wouldn't be calling others clueless. Not saying it'll hit the mark...but it's certainly plausible.
MILESSPIDERMAN
MILESSPIDERMAN - 1/17/2023, 7:48 AM
Loved BP2, can't wait until we see Shuri again, hope it's in Ironheart.
WakandanQueen
WakandanQueen - 1/17/2023, 7:55 AM
Well, don't know how much money a film that's already out to stream/pirate can make there. But it will go higher than the $840-850m it was gonna end up without China. Maybe $900m?

I think Quantumania will be the real test to see how Marvel will be doing from now on over there. The last Ant-Man film did quite well.
Chris827
Chris827 - 1/17/2023, 8:03 AM
Ant Man wont do a billion, stop with that. China will help though even if its only 100 mill but maybe pent up demand being out of China for so long will make it do better than expected. Either way if it can get to 700-800 mill in this climate thats a win.


Black Panther might get to 900+ but it wont get to a billion, not this far out from its release and it being on D+ online before it drops in China.
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