AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY And SECRET WARS Rumors Reveal New Team Leaders, A Big "Reunion," And Secondary Villains

AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY And SECRET WARS Rumors Reveal New Team Leaders, A Big "Reunion," And Secondary Villains

New Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars rumours reveal new details about Marvel Studios' plans for the movies, including who will lead the main team, Doom's dynamic with Reed Richards, and more.

By JoshWilding - Oct 08, 2024 11:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Secret Wars
Source: The Cosmic Circus

While the Multiverse Saga has been undeniably hit-or-miss, there's still plenty of excitement surrounding Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars

Sure, neither movie will be what was originally planned - we're getting Robert Downey Jr.'s Doctor Doom in place of Jonathan Majors as Kang, for starters - but that doesn't mean the Russo Brothers won't deliver a fitting end to this Saga. 

According to The Cosmic Circus' Alex Perez, the plan is for both movies to feature secondary villains replacing the Council of Kangs (it's said original plans called for different teams of heroes to battle the likes of Rama-Tut, Scarlet Centurion, and Immortus). The site doesn't know for sure who they'll be and suggests we might see a Multiversal Masters of Evil.

Perez adds that the Multiverse will still exist once this Saga ends and reiterates that we're only getting a "soft reboot" after Avengers: Secret Wars

He also likens Reed Richards and Doctor Doom's dynamic in the upcoming Avengers movies to Tony Stark and Thanos in Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame. Talking of exciting meetings, it seems Thor and Sylvie will soon share the screen as well. 

Captain Marvel is described as "one of the main characters in [Avengers: Doomsday]," with Perez adding that "She will be one of the leading Avengers in these movies." As for Sam Wilson/Captain America, he's set to "co-lead the team."

Other Avengers-related intel includes Marvel Studios' plan to "use Hugh Jackman [as Wolverine] for as long as possible." There's also the claim that while we'll see Ant-Man in these movies, Namor is currently "TBD."

Perez concludes by saying this about 2025's MCU releases: "I’m very excited because it will feature some of the most important storylines that will set up the groundwork for Doomsday and Secret Wars."

Marvel Studios is bound to have some huge plans for these movies and, while the clock is ticking on laying the groundwork for them, there's really no need to be concerned. After all, before Avengers: Infinity War, we'd only seen a few minutes of Thanos on screen and yet he remains one of the MCU's best big bads. 

Still, even with Doom sure to be a compelling threat, we're still hoping Kang's disappearance will be addressed in some way because Loki and Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania set him up as a massive threat. 

Avengers: Doomsday is set to be released in May 2026, with Avengers: Secret Wars scheduled to arrive in May 2027. Stay tuned for updates.

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cubrn
cubrn - 10/8/2024, 11:37 AM
Oh look, a non-Joker article
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 10/8/2024, 2:10 PM
@cubrn - well there isn't anything else going on and these are coming up everywhere and not only here after the backlash it got.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 10/8/2024, 11:37 AM

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mountainman
mountainman - 10/8/2024, 11:39 AM
Captain Marvel and Sam being the leads is expected but disappointing. Never having to see the Power Ranger villain looking Rama-Tut, Scarlet Centurion, and Immortus ever again is a win at least.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 10/8/2024, 11:43 AM
@mountainman - Power Ranger level acting too. That’s right I said it. Johnathan Majors acting was over praised and overrated at time of release. Well he can take his Shakespearean stutter elsewhere

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SATW42
SATW42 - 10/8/2024, 11:48 AM
@mountainman - Who else could it possibly be? You'll note it specifically says Doomsday, so no cap return, no iron man, Thor is off world (and isn't a leader), Hulk isn't a leader, Strange is DEFINITELY not a leader and is off world/universe. Spider-man very well could be the heart that ends up pulling a team together, but he wouldn't be believable as a leader of the group.

I know you said it's expected, I'm just trying to address the disappointing and see who you think would be a better leader that's currently on Earth.
Vigor
Vigor - 10/8/2024, 11:49 AM
@mountainman - who do you want to be the lead
TheWinkler
TheWinkler - 10/8/2024, 12:01 PM
@mountainman - I have a feeling that while they'll lead The Avengers, the priority is gonna be putting focus on Hugh Jackman, Tobey Maguire, and other legacy characters. I would not doubt if Snipe's Blade made a return after the positive reaction to his DP&W appearance.
YouCray04
YouCray04 - 10/8/2024, 12:23 PM
@Vigor - Off the top of my head: Mr Fantastic. With heavy support from Dr Strange. Thor, Hulk, The Thing, and Warmachine should be the tanks, and pretty much everyone else should be doing ground-level support, maybe with Sam taking charge but with Spiderman, Shang Chi, and Daredevil doing most of the work. Maybe Spiderman can train with Shang Chi or Daredevil and gain the confidence to take on a leadership role for Secret Wars. In an ideal world Captain Marvel will be killed off at the start to demonstrate Doom's power (the Worf Effect). Not including any Fox/legacy characters because I'm not sure if they will appear in Doomsday or just Secret Wars. And yes I know this is an Avengers movie not a FF movie but the last 2 Avengers movies featured the Guardians of the Galaxy in major roles, and it doesn't make much sense to have Dr Doom as the big bad without his archenemy as the big hero.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/8/2024, 12:47 PM
@mountainman - Remember white men can lead, but women and black men can only co-lead.
mountainman
mountainman - 10/8/2024, 12:48 PM
@ObserverIO - Weren’t Steve and Tony also co-leads?
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/8/2024, 1:00 PM
@mountainman - I don't know if I'd call Tony the co-leader. Benefactor, brains of the operation, sure. I'd even go so far as to call him the anchor being of the whole MCU. But no, Steve was the leader. He was the Captain, everyone looked to him.

Nick wasn't even sure if he wanted Tony on the team at first. He just wanted him there in an advisory capacity. A consultant.
mountainman
mountainman - 10/8/2024, 1:14 PM
@ObserverIO - This brings to mind another interesting question about this new Avengers team - Who bankrolls it?

The only character that seems to have access to large pools of money is Shuri.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/8/2024, 1:44 PM
@mountainman - Blackrock.
mountainman
mountainman - 10/8/2024, 2:00 PM
@ObserverIO - No that will be the US government backed Thunderbolts. Black Rock is much more interested in secret ops versus a group that actually helps people.
captainireland
captainireland - 10/8/2024, 2:08 PM
@mountainman - maybe Pepper will continue to bankroll the team to honour Tony's legacy. Rhodey and Peter still have strong links to her too. She could always suit back up as Rescue too.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 10/8/2024, 2:28 PM
@captainireland - Oh yeah I totally forgot about Pepper for a second there. And she's got that whole goop hustle too.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 10/8/2024, 2:42 PM
@mountainman - Carol and Sam leading over Strange Reed etc lol
mountainman
mountainman - 10/8/2024, 2:51 PM
@McMurdo - To fight a multiverse movie / villain, you need the smartest minds around calling the shots. Reed, Bruce, Strange, Beast, etc. Now maybe the science team won’t be the “leaders” per se and you would need muscle on any attack squads, but what would Sam and Carol know about multiversal threats?
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 10/8/2024, 4:34 PM
@JFerguson - Okay, well, he's already gone.
cubrn
cubrn - 10/9/2024, 3:18 AM
@mountainman - what did Steve or Tony know about deep space alien threats to lead the team in the Infinity saga years?
WarMonkey
WarMonkey - 10/9/2024, 7:49 AM
@SATW42 - Starlord is on Earth and could be a great leader.
elcapitan
elcapitan - 10/9/2024, 2:06 PM
@SATW42 - Vision
SATW42
SATW42 - 10/9/2024, 2:12 PM
@elcapitan - I suppose it would depend on the events of Vision Quest, but as of right now he's not a viable option, I also don't know how much the Avengers would trust a vision, thats not their vision to join them, let alone lead them.
elcapitan
elcapitan - 10/15/2024, 1:53 PM
@SATW42 - Yes, but Vision Quest is likely to come out before Secret Wars.
ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 10/8/2024, 11:40 AM
And when they finally get the upper hand and win it will be revealed that that Doom was a Doombot

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ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 10/8/2024, 11:51 AM
@ItsNotForMeWahh - that would actually be forking great
ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 10/8/2024, 11:55 AM
@ProfessorWhy - Oh for sure! I'd want to see it where teams are fighting multiple only to find out all are fake.
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 10/8/2024, 2:12 PM
@ItsNotForMeWahh - that is actually fricking brilliant!
Vigor
Vigor - 10/8/2024, 11:41 AM
I'm fine with multiple villains. That's what made battleworld entertaining. Doom being the head villain with Kang still a threat and perhaps one other earthly (or otherworldly like Alioth, galactus, dormammu, or Mephisto) would keep things fresh and different from Infinity war/endgame

Just please keep Kang in the mix. He was made for time shenanigans plots. He's an iconic villain and there's no better time to do him
SATW42
SATW42 - 10/8/2024, 11:44 AM
@Vigor - I'm telling you, and other users said it here too, Doom's "oh shit" introduction is going to be directly following up Ant-Man and him decimating the council of Kangs in seconds
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/8/2024, 11:44 AM
@Vigor - agreed

Fine if they aren’t doing the original plan but I hope the Kang variants or even himself play a role.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/8/2024, 11:45 AM
@SATW42 - I could see that being the case

Immediately established him as a threat.
cubrn
cubrn - 10/8/2024, 12:16 PM
@Vigor - I don’t understand why Jonathan Majors can’t continue playing him. Like far more people have done way worse things and continued on in their careers
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/8/2024, 12:58 PM
@cubrn - I can understand why since he was convicted but even then , the variant concept gave them the perfect reason to recast.
cubrn
cubrn - 10/8/2024, 1:03 PM
@TheVisionary25 - crazy how a 34 time felon/racist can be neck and neck in the presidential race but a guy can’t play dress up anymore because he had a messy breakup with his girlfriend that got slightly mutually violent.
cubrn
cubrn - 10/8/2024, 1:04 PM
@cubrn - rapist not racist but hey racist works too
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 10/8/2024, 1:14 PM
@cubrn - yep

Strange times we live in.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 10/8/2024, 1:18 PM
@cubrn - 34 counts of mislablellng a file and never came close to be convicted of raping anyone...but hey, you're showing exsctly why so many are going to vote for him because of gaslighting like this.
cubrn
cubrn - 10/8/2024, 1:29 PM
@Ryguy88 - I think her multimillion dollar settlement says otherwise
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