AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY Isn't The First Time Robert Downey Jr. Was Eyed To Play Doom Reveals Resurfaced Interview

AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY Isn't The First Time Robert Downey Jr. Was Eyed To Play Doom Reveals Resurfaced Interview

Much is being said about Robert Downey Jr. being cast as Doctor Doom in the next Avengers movies, but did you know that this isn’t the first time the Iron Man has been eyed to play the iconic villain?

By JoshWilding - Jul 29, 2024 05:07 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Secret Wars

On Saturday night, Marvel Studios took to Hall H at the San Diego Comic-Con to announce that Robert Downey Jr. will play Doctor Doom in Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars

The news has received a surprisingly mixed response, largely because the Oscar-winner's portrayal of Tony Stark/Iron Man is so iconic. 

In 2015's Fantastic Four reboot, Doom was played by Toby Kebbell but, back in the mid-2000s, Julian McMahon suited up as the villain in Fantastic Four and Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer. However, you might have forgotten that the role nearly went to Downey in Tim Story's movies!

We first shared this news with you last spring, but following Comic-Con, the interview has started doing the rounds all over again. 

In a video looking back at Iron Man to mark its 15th anniversary, filmmaker Jon Favreau and Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige confirmed Downey was in talks to play Victor Von Doom in the early 2000s.

"I remember that Robert had come in for a general [meeting] on it and I remember you had all met with him already for Doctor Doom or something on another project," Favreau recalled, getting the nod from Feige. "Everybody sort of knew who he was and I remember sitting down with the guy and I was like, 'Jeez, [he's] just got that spark in him and his eye, and he's ready."

It's fair to say playing Doom in 2005 wouldn't have revived Downey's career in the same way Tony Stark did. With that in mind, it's no doubt for the best Fantastic Four didn't work out. That's evident from comments Feige made later in the same conversation about casting him as Iron Man. 

"[Casting Downey as Iron Man is] probably one of the greatest decisions in the history of Hollywood," he exclaims. "Everybody has good days and bad days and I remember in later movies...there were dark days and I would say, 'Robert, we wouldn't be in this mess if it wasn't for you' [Laughs]. Meaning we wouldn't have a studio if it wasn't for him or [Jon Favreau]."

Whether it's an act of desperation to course-correct the MCU after a rough few years or there's more to this casting than meets the eye, Downey playing Doctor Doom is certainly generating a lot of discussion online. 

Had he never suited up as Iron Man, there's a good chance Saturday's announcement would have received a far warmer response. As things stand, many fans are wondering why the MCU veteran is returning to this shared world to play a villain who should have arguably debuted in The Fantastic Four franchise (and who any number of actors could potentially bring to life just as brilliantly).

Check out the resurfaced interview below. 

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NoAssemblyReqd
NoAssemblyReqd - 7/29/2024, 5:09 PM
“ It's fair to say playing Doom back then wouldn't have revived Downey's career in the same way playing Tony Stark did, so it's no doubt for the best Fantastic Four didn't work out for him.”

My God, dude. Pick up a book, any book about writing news articles.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 7/29/2024, 5:10 PM
If they go with the storyline where Doom swaps his subconscious with Tony Stark, They should bring back Julian McMahon for the cameo.
JonC
JonC - 7/29/2024, 5:23 PM
@SonOfAGif - that's a great idea
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 7/29/2024, 5:29 PM
@SonOfAGif - the What If story?

Before they dropped this news, I was kinda hoping they were bringing McMahon back for Secret Wars. Can't have Secret Wars without Doom, and that seemed the most logical to me
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 7/29/2024, 5:57 PM
@bkmeijer1 - I know he isn't a well known actor anymore but since they are leaning into the Fox Universe and acknowledging some of the actors, It makes the most sense bringing him back as Doom. Hell I would even have the movie start with him being a Doom from the future and uses a tempad to go back to the time where he was in college to transfer his subconscious into his younger self but discovers he is in an alternate timeline where his roommate was Stark instead of Richards and chooses Stark instead to swap mind and soul with.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 7/30/2024, 2:23 AM
@SonOfAGif - that would be a good way to go about it, but even then I think it's kind of a waste of screentime.

With RDJ being Doom from the get-go, we can immediately jump into the story. The movie is only so long and already has so many characters.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 7/30/2024, 6:03 AM
@SonOfAGif - I'd prefer Toby Kebbel. He already kinda played god-emperor Doom of Planet Zero in Fant4stic.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 7/29/2024, 5:12 PM
I remember that..

I wonder if he ever screentested for the role and if so perhaps that or the general meeting he had with Feige stuck with the latter?.

Either way, live action Dr Doom isn’t exactly a high bar to clear unfortunately (even if i kinda enjoyed Julian McMahon’s version) so with the Russo’s handling him , I’m expecting this version to clear it with ease.

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rychlec
rychlec - 7/29/2024, 5:15 PM
I truly hope he's a variant of Stark. Time is short for this Multiverse phase so that would make sense. If there truly is a re-boot (soft or not) on the horizon, I hope they would save the true Victor Von Doom for the future.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 7/29/2024, 5:31 PM
@rychlec - I kinda gave up on that hole already when they brought back Dafoe's Goblin and Molina's Ock.

There was never gonna be an MCU-native Victor von Doom first I feel. My money was on Julian McMahon returning though.
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 7/29/2024, 5:31 PM
The more I think about this casting, the more I see possibility for it to work. Since this is not an origin, he may already be all scarred anyway, so he could be unrecognizable without the mask. I'm in the wait and see camp.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 7/29/2024, 5:32 PM
Amazing.

I couldn't wait to see RDJ, Evans back with the old gang like Jackman and Maguire, now i'm super ready to move past all of this and start fresh with a reboot.

After Secret Wars, i'm sure i wont miss RDJ ever again in the MCU.

Evans is a different story...for now, unless they cast him as Magnus...
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 7/29/2024, 5:36 PM
@Doomsday8888 - bring him back as Human Torch! I don't mind, he nailed thay role.

Maguire and Jackman on screen with RDJ is gonna be epic though. That's the holy trinity of comic book casting right there.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 7/29/2024, 5:37 PM
@bkmeijer1
Absolutely, he still got it as Johnny!
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 7/29/2024, 5:34 PM
That's kinda full circle in my mind. I was fully expecting Julian McMahon to be back for Secret Wars, and now it turns out the new Doom was initially up for that role.

Wonder how it would've gone over though if RDJ was cast Doom back then, then got cast as Iron Man and brought back again as Doom now.
TheRogue
TheRogue - 7/29/2024, 5:35 PM
Imo I do feel a lot of regret harping on the idea cause you can Tell Robert Downrey Junior is genuinly excited and enthused to play doom.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/29/2024, 5:42 PM
The good news is that Fantastic Four test footage looked fire and despite having to deal with the wrong Silver Surfer......and Reed having a ridiculous mustache.....that film might actually end up being GOOD.
The1st
The1st - 7/29/2024, 6:19 PM
@McMurdo - Yeah. I don't know what's up with male actors and hair lol.
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 7/29/2024, 5:42 PM
Kevin Feige regarding RDJ possibly returning to the MCU and ressurrecting Iron Man Decemeber 2023 -
"We are going to keep that moment and not touch that moment again," Feige told the publication. "We all worked very hard for many years to get to that, and we would never want to magically undo it in any way."

So, bring back the same actor as a villain?
I cannot stress how much I hate this choice and I see it as just another demoralization technique by Disney and desperation at best.
To me, this shits all over Tony's sacrifice and is just another one of the terrible post Endgame choices Disney has made.
smgmayhem
smgmayhem - 7/29/2024, 6:22 PM
@Feralwookiee - How is it demoralizing? I'm truly confused by your word usage there.
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 7/29/2024, 6:30 PM
@smgmayhem - To have characters we enjoy and heroes we grew up reading and following torn down...I'd say that's demoralizing.
smgmayhem
smgmayhem - 7/29/2024, 8:49 PM
@Feralwookiee - No one is tearing anything down though. And everyone is assuming he is playing a Stark variant basically jumping the gun on something they know nothing about yet. I'm sure they just want him to be Victor Von Doom and have that presence only. I see no problem with it and it's ironic actually because people hated when he was originally cast as Tony Stark and he proved everyone otherwise.
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 7/29/2024, 5:53 PM
Just glad someone came to their senses and realized that Secret wars can't be pulled off without Doom.
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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 7/29/2024, 5:58 PM
@MCUKnight11 - User Comment Image
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 7/29/2024, 5:55 PM
"The news has received a surprisingly mixed response, largely because the Oscar-winner's portrayal of Tony Stark/Iron Man is so iconic."

To be fair, that's not the reason for the mixed response. Many of us, myself included, simply think that although rdj is a great actor, he's a terrible fit for this role
TheRogue
TheRogue - 7/29/2024, 6:00 PM
@Izaizaiza - I dont think he's even nesscerily terrible fit, I just think its a boring option.
Spoken
Spoken - 7/29/2024, 5:56 PM
I mean I remain optimistic.

Doctor Doom is coming, and that's all I really care about at this point really lol. More excited for Doomsday than Secret Wars cause I wanna see how this gets pulled off.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 7/29/2024, 6:01 PM
sh1t most be really hard on you this month
SuperCat
SuperCat - 7/29/2024, 6:05 PM
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GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 7/29/2024, 6:17 PM
@SuperCat -
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McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/29/2024, 6:18 PM
@SuperCat - well played
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 7/29/2024, 7:11 PM
@SuperCat -
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OriginalGusto1
OriginalGusto1 - 7/29/2024, 9:14 PM
@SuperCat - LMFAO! Tell me this doesn't sit well with you! DoomStark! How about...GalactuStark????
OriginalGusto1
OriginalGusto1 - 7/29/2024, 9:15 PM
NomiStark.
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