AVENGERS: SECRET WARS' Two Rumored Lead Characters May Come As A Surprise

AVENGERS: SECRET WARS' Two Rumored Lead Characters May Come As A Surprise AVENGERS: SECRET WARS' Two Rumored Lead Characters May Come As A Surprise

On the heels of today's Marvel Studios expose, a new rumor is claiming to have revealed the two heroes who will be the main focus of Avengers: Secret Wars...

By MarkCassidy - Nov 01, 2023 04:11 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Secret Wars

Earlier today, Variety shared an in-depth report on some of the problems that have been plaguing Marvel Studios as Phase 5 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe continues to take shape, and it sounds like Kevin Feige is considering bringing back the likes of Robert Downey Jr. (Iron Man) and Scarlett Johansson (Black Widow) in an attempt to reignite fan-interest in the franchise.

This probably won't come as much of a surprise if you've been keeping up to date with the various rumors surrounding upcoming projects such as Deadpool 3 and the next Avengers movies, as we already expected to see Variants of characters who have either died or are no longer active at some point.

There's a chance the studio is planning to spotlight Downey Jr., Johansson and Chris Evans (if they're interested in returning, that is) in Avengers: Secret Wars, but a new rumor is claiming that two characters from completely different corners of the Multiverse will actually be the main focus.

Tobey Maguire's Peter Parker/Spider-Man, and Hugh Jackman's Logan/Wolverine.

Jackman will reprise his iconic X-Men role in Deadpool 3, and we've heard that Marvel has much bigger plans for his take on Wolvie going forward. Maguire, meanwhile, made his triumphant return as the Webhead in Spider-Man: No Way Home, and fans have been hoping to see him back in action in the MCU since.

It's hardly surprising that these characters would be prominently featured in a Multiverse-spanning event film like Secret Wars, but did anyone expect them to be at the forefront of what will surely be a massive ensemble?

The studio has yet to announce a director for what could well be shaping up to be the biggest MCU movie of all time, but a previous report indicated that they may have been looking at tried and tested filmmakers behind some of the most popular and successful movies in the Marvel Cinematic Universe to ensure the hugely ambitious project is in safe hands, including Jon Favreau (Iron Man) and Ryan Coogler (Black Panther).

Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings director Destin Daniel Cretton - who is set to helm Avengers: The Kang Dynasty - is also said to have pitched them on him staying on to handle the follow-up, and we've heard that Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness helmer Sam Raimi is a "top Choice."

The Doctor Strange sequel's writer Michael Waldron was hired to pen the script late last year, but we have no idea how much - if any - progress has been made since then, and a recent rumor indicated that he'd actually parted ways with the project.

Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania's Jeff Loveness is also said to have stepped away (or asked to step away) from The Kang Dynasty, so, if accurate, it sounds like the studio may be going back to the drawing board on both massively-scaled Avengers movies.

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PC04 - 11/1/2023, 4:31 PM
(X) DOUBT
SauronthePower - 11/1/2023, 9:15 PM
@PC04 - ‘My Time to Shine Hello’ about to take a huge credibility beating on scoop reliability.

Holland just signed a major extension with the MCU and you’re going to seriously try and scoop-flex that Marvel plans to center their tentpole brand’s reunion tour on a deeply disliked (on the human level (seriously, Maguire has engendered a VERY shady reputation in his post-slinger days)) 40-something year old disconnected from said brand for over 15 years????

This truly represents the some serious journalistic barrel scrapings in almost every conceivable way
DrReedRichards - 11/1/2023, 4:33 PM
Yyyeeeaaahhh... no.
Thing94 - 11/1/2023, 4:33 PM
Hire Sam Raimi as director! Lez do it!
McMurdo - 11/1/2023, 5:12 PM
@Thing94 - get Sam Raimi and I'm in.
DrReedRichards - 11/1/2023, 5:42 PM
@Thing94 , @McMurdo -

Are you guys already forgetting how most of you reacted last time Raimi directed a Waldron script for the MCU...?
BeNice123 - 11/1/2023, 8:00 PM
@DrReedRichards - right??? I also recall some these dudes crying and complaining about it… 😂
DrReedRichards - 11/1/2023, 8:10 PM
@BeNice123 -

Thank you! I felt like I was taking crazy pills for a moment!
HulkisHoly - 11/1/2023, 10:02 PM
@DrReedRichards -

The angriest I’ve been during a marvel film. No exaggeration
DrReedRichards - 11/1/2023, 10:10 PM
@HulkisHoly -



Angriest I've ever been during an MCU film was Iron Man 3.

Marvel movie in general, 2015's Fant4stic.
McMurdo - 11/2/2023, 10:43 PM
@DrReedRichards - Raimis Doc 2 was meddled with to death
HulkisHoly - 11/3/2023, 12:53 PM
@DrReedRichards -

Watching the introduction of Reed and Xavier and then to watch both be laughably murdered for no reason, along with every single plot contrivance that preceded and followed. The just sheer cheesy stupidity of Wanda floating around shooting laser beams on the “worlds best” sorcerers looking like a scene from Dragonball Evolution. I could go on.
DrReedRichards - 11/3/2023, 12:58 PM
@HulkisHoly -

Ouch!

I mean, this feels a bit overblown, especially with the unnecessary DB-E comparison (kill it with fire)...

Even as a Reed fan, I totally accept than an unhinged Wanda would make short work of them all. Sure, I have my complaints like Maria being killed by a statue (lol, just lol), but I loved other elements like the brain murder of Xavier, or the mirror dimension break in Kamar-Taj.
BackInTheJSSR01 - 11/3/2023, 3:18 PM
@DrReedRichards - Especially with the fact that Maria was crushed by a statue of CAROL! Like Jesus.
DrReedRichards - 11/3/2023, 3:25 PM
@BackInTheJSSR01 -

I'm forgetting, did they ever confirm whose statues they were supposed to be? I remember all sorts of random theories being tossed around at the time, from Wonder Woman to f#ckin' Xena, but I can't recall ever confirming anything about them.
BackInTheJSSR01 - 11/3/2023, 3:34 PM
@DrReedRichards - I'm not entirely sure. I like to assume it's Carol because it just makes more sense then god damn Xena, like where the hell did that one come from?
DrReedRichards - 11/3/2023, 3:50 PM
@BackInTheJSSR01 -

Believe it or not, it was one of Raimi's earliest projects. Kinda shocked me too, if I'm honest.
LiteraryJoe - 11/1/2023, 4:34 PM
Lol
Order66 - 11/1/2023, 4:36 PM
Why…
URCOMMENTSUCKS - 11/1/2023, 4:37 PM
We're reaching nostalgia bait levels that shouldn't be possible. Then again, between the good old (that the MCU will find a way to ruin, as always) and the shitty new, I'll take the former.
JDL - 11/1/2023, 4:40 PM
Dear Lord Save Us From Ourselves.
WruceBayne - 11/1/2023, 4:42 PM
It’s time to move on. Can’t be scared to tread new waters.
FlopWatchers5 - 11/1/2023, 4:46 PM
@WruceBayne - isn’t that what Phase 4 has been about?
Vigor - 11/1/2023, 4:45 PM
That... WOULD be surprising 😳
FlopWatchers5 - 11/1/2023, 4:46 PM
I can almost guess before I click the article who the “rumor” has come from lol
Fogs - 11/1/2023, 4:48 PM
If the idea is for the mcu heroes to lose in dynasty and a multiversal group being recruited by the tva... makes sense considering the nostalgia bait
Scarilian - 11/1/2023, 8:31 PM
@Fogs -
Ideally they should do the following:

Kang Dynasty:
Primarily phase 1-3 legacy characters are approached by a Kang variant who warns of the coming army of Kangs. They team with the Kang variant but he betrays them due to his past experiences with the Kangs resulting in a massive incursion.

Secret Wars
Primarily phase 4-6 characters team with multiverse heroes and villains to restore the universe. Meanwhile the surviving Kang's battle between themselves until only one remains, nicknaming himself 'The Beyonder'.

Avengers Forever (Secret Wars Part 2):
The universe is restored but the battle isn't over yet.The Phase 4-6 heroes have succeeded and restore the Phase 1-3 heroes who help them battle The Beyonder in a final climactic battle taking them throughout the multiverse, as The Beyonder attempts to destroy 'The One Above All'.

----

That way Kang Dynasty gets a viewership boost by the Phase 1-3 legacy characters. Secret Wars gets a viewership boost by the nostalgia. Avengers Forever combines the two in a celebration focused around Phase 1-6.
Fogs - 11/2/2023, 3:39 AM
@Scarilian - yeah, that's basically what appears to be happening, except what you call "forever" would be the new mcu status quo + recasts and new additions (fox chars). If they split Secret wars in two you're probably on point.
Cap1 - 11/1/2023, 4:54 PM
True or not true (99% chance it’s not), the MCU is sooo cooked
Izaizaiza - 11/1/2023, 4:56 PM
This sounds like panicking, honestly. I know people love Jackman's wolverine (I do too), but the only reason for a secret wars movie is to usher in a reboot of the MCU. I don't want Jackman to get in the way of introducing a more comic accurate version of the character.
thirsty4scotch - 11/1/2023, 4:57 PM
Mmm, nah. Marvel isn't going to hang the upcoming Avengers movies on 2 characters that aren't even from their universe. Hell, they probably shouldn't even put Tom Holland's Spider-Man in the center of the story, let alone Tobey Macguire's. They don't own the rights to Spider-Man and Sony can just yank them whenever they want. What does Marvel do then? On the Wolvie side, Jackman's been VERY clear about his desire to move on from the character. He's too old, by his own admission, to keep in the kind of physical shape that Wolverine demands. They've also been clear that Logan is still canon, so sooner or later he's got to go back to the Fox-Universe so he can die saving X-23 and those other kids.

I'm calling B.S. on this one.
McMurdo - 11/1/2023, 5:14 PM
@thirsty4scotch - Holland's Spidey is a complete moron so him having a central role is obviously quite plausible
JohnPain - 11/1/2023, 5:32 PM
@thirsty4scotch -

That's why companies make contracts.
SauronthePower - 11/1/2023, 9:18 PM
@thirsty4scotch - agree

Also calls into question the accuracy of the rest of that Variety piece
Repian - 11/1/2023, 5:05 PM
Doctor Doom should be the lead character of Secret Wars. A genius corrupted by ambition becomes a villain in the end.
Scarilian - 11/1/2023, 8:34 PM
@Repian -
The earliest Doctor Doom could appear is Fantastic Four and that's dealing with Terrax and Galactus.

We have to face facts that they missed the opportunity to introduce Doctor Doom and actually establish him for such a plot to be handled well.

I'd rather see them save Doctor Doom for the reboot rather than rush him into an adaptation of 2015's Secret Wars.
SauronthePower - 11/1/2023, 9:20 PM
@Scarilian - in this we agree

Shoehorning Doom without the benefit of the soft-build on his descent into villainery in a hamfisted attempt to bail out your macro saga represents an idea of colossally horrible proportions
philinterrupted - 11/1/2023, 5:10 PM
This was already an article at some point.
marvel72 - 11/1/2023, 5:10 PM

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