Top 5 Reasons Avengers 1 Is CLEARLY Superior To Age of Ultron

Top 5 Reasons Avengers 1 Is CLEARLY Superior To Age of Ultron

Avengers Assemble > Age of Ultron.

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Editorial Opinion
By WakandasSoul - Sep 16, 2015 08:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers
Source: ComicBookMovie.com

I've been pretty vocal on my belief of the first Avengers movie being superior to the second lastest installment in the MCU, and now below I lay it all out why. I'd like to point out that this is in no way an AOU hate article or anything like that, it will point out honest criticisms...I don't mind one bit people disagreeing with me, it's actually welcome. Just keep it respectful and mature. Here we go


 

Loki > Ultron




Prime reason that stuck out for me was the villains in each of the films. First and foremost, you aren't about to see me blurting the typical "Ultron was a comedian" or "too many jokes" nonsense. I believe those flaps are exaggerated anyway. But it is true I did not love Ultron in the movie, and I could write en entire editorial about that alone. In general, I just sum it down to his power nerfing, rushed development and motives (which kinda ties into my next points) and un-aesthetically pleasing design. Frankly, I found it hard to take Ultron for good portions of the movie.

It's not the fact that he was laying out wise cracks, but rather more that they were jarring when they were said and were hardly funny at all. Combined with the actuality that Ultron got manhandled by several characters in AOU, when he's supposed to be formidable enough to take on ALL the Avengers himself (which is what makes him a lethal/dangerous Avengers villain in  the first place) Add in the poor execution of his upgrading concept, factor the pure lack of identity for the character...and you have essentially a mess of an antagonist. Weirdly, I'm not of the belief Ultron's an AWFUL villain, but he certainly wasn't a good one. Maybe on paper, not on screen.

Loki on the other hand brought such an enigmatic and ambiguous charisma to Avengers Assemble, and he's not like Ultron. He isn't supposed to be an overly physical or hulking (no pun intended) threat. He's crafty, he plays mind games, toys with your emotions, he is enjoyfully condescending...with relentless ambition. When you think about it, he never really challenged the Avengers much at all physically (hell Thor can pretty much take him by himself in a straight up fight) yet he still managed to create so much chaos, maybe even more so than Ultron did in AOU, and he's supposed to be the greater physical threat.

Pacing Woes


The subject of pacing has been amongst the most talked about topics when it comes to AOU. Of course it's no secret how much was cut out of the movie in the editing room, and it showed...it was APPARENT in the final product. 

AOU was anything but steady, it was quite choppy for huge chunks, somewhat slow in the middle, rapid fast at parts, I mean, it was a mess. And it without a doubt hurt the movie in my view. But I guess that's what happens when you feel the necessity to remove an hour out of a movie with THIS many characters for the sake of cash. It's even worse since the two highest grossing movies ever are considerably long but ya know...."worries" kick in and take over.

ANYWAY, other than a bit of a bogged down pace in the middle, Avengers Assemble didn't have this issue. I'm sure things were cut out, but not to this degree. For the most part, Marvel's crowning achievement flowed pretty smoothly


Character Work/Continuity


One of the most peculiar differences between the first movie and the sequel to me, is how Joss managed to mold character continuity so well in Avengers Assemble, and seemingly ignore what the heroes did in previous movies with AOU.

In Avengers Assemble it was nearly flawless. It actually felt like Cap had just been unthawed not too long ago, and was gradually adjusting to circumstances. Tony seemed like a seasoned vet hero who had went through the events of two Iron Man movies. Thor gave off the vibe that he had learned his lesson from his solo outing, Coulson was Coulson, etc etc. The only characters that felt discernibly different were Widow and Banner. Widow this being a positive since it was an upgrade over the generic sexy assassin she was in Iron Man 2. Banner well, for very obvious reasons. And this is all the while perfectly molding the heroes together with engaging, building, and sometimes deep interactions with one another.



Age of Ultron character-wise was acting as if the Phase 2 solo movies didn't happen. Tony's flying around in suits again and making a bunch even though he seemingly wanted to scale back on them in Iron Man 3 (for the record I understand he did not "retire"). Thor is on Earth raiding Hydra bases for Odin knows why; none of the movies have given Thor much of any reason to start living on Earth other than Jane (who isn't even in AOU). I honestly don't get at all why he was on Earth in AOU, shouldn't he be hammer bitch-slapping evil garden gnomes in Yoglutenheim or something?? Widow is all the sudden in love with Banner, not remotely sure where that came from. She seemed nothing but terrified of him in the first movie. Banner apparently can't control his Hulk state now? Cap barely mentions anything about the best friend he recently discovered to have been a Hydra assassin for half a dozen DECADES, and didn't really get the feel of the one organization he trusted in the modern world being strikingly corrupt really had an effect on him. You see what I mean? It's like hardly anything in the previous movies happened to these characters.

Overall, the normally brilliant character work from Joss simply wasn't as compelling. And he really went full throttle with the whole "giving every character the same personality" thing. In Avengers Assemble on the contrary it felt like a bunch of conflicting personalities clashing and eventually having to put differences aside for a greater cause, which is one of the things that's so beautiful about the first movie.

Avengers Was The Culmination Of A Phase, Age of Ultron Was A Preview/Commercial For A Future Phase



One of the biggest issues with the MCU, and one of the prime factors that hurt AOU, is the continuous need to SET-UP so many things in one movie, it almost ALWAYS hinders the product because usually it either diverts or is in no way related to the story, or it is forced in an attempt to mold it into the likely already jammed plot. And when you're giving up screentime that could've been used for more important aspects like development...there lies a problem. Sometimes you just gotta let your films stand on their own more.

AOU was literally planting seeds for half of the Phase 3 movies. Civil War, Ragnarok, Black Panther, the Infinity Wars, and hell...Joss still wanted to throw in Captain Marvel! How on Earth can a movie be great when you're juggling so many characters, while simultaneously planting seeds for another Phase, and still attempt to tell its own story? All in a chopped down movie mind you. It's just a recipe for disaster.

Continuity, references, tie-ins, etc....you know, one of the main attractions of this Marvel Cinematic Universe...works best for the MCU, when the storyline is REACTING to previous events, rather than setting the stage for future events. Why? Because we haven't seen these future evens yet, we're not yet invested in them. We're trying to focus on the now. But it's much easier to tie-in other events, characters, etc in a cinematic universe when the story is BUILDING off of what previous movies established. And it's always great to see the narrative progress as each movie goes along. Take Captain America: The Winter Soldier as the standard example, other than the Strucker mid-credit scene, TWS wasn't trying to set up a bunch of stuff (mid-credit scenes are really the only time MCU movies should be planting seeds/setting up)

No, TWS stood on its own as its own story while geniously building off the events of "Avengers". Aliens invade in Avengers, so you have Project Insight in TWS. BUILD, expand, further develop if you have to the content you already have! THIS is what makes the MCU beautiful, THIS is what makes it so gleefully exciting. After every installment we want to be astonished by the ever-increasing cinematic narrative, not slowly waiting for things to actually unfold in 2019 or 2020.

Avengers Assemble understood this, it was literally the prime appeal of it and will probably be the exact same with the Infinity Wars. It is the culmination of a series of events, capped off with an epic climax that defines an era. It didn't need to plant seeds, it was what the seeds were planted for.

Age Of Ultron Does Not Have THIS Shot




It really doesn't. Or the long "going around the city" tie-in shot in the final battle. 

In general I felt the action overall in the first movie grabbed me tighter...

But more than that, my overarching point here is really that "it" factor, that nerdgasm/omg this is really happening/cinematic GLORY factor...that AOU simply lacks. Sure you may say that's unfair, because Avengers 1 was the first time we'd ever seen these characters together, a crossover to this magnitude, etc etc. But the fact that the first movie nailed it and nailed it all all so well is just precisely why it's superior. And there are simply too many fist-pumping moments for AOU to compare. The feeling I got watching AOU wasn't even in the same GALAXY as the one I had with Avengers 1. Avengers Assemble was all you ever wanted, it was like a dream come true. And we can't lie to ourselves and say..."sequels can't top the original"




Welp, there ya have it folks. My 5 reasons I view Avengers Assemble to be a superior movie to Age of Ultron. Again, feel more than free to disagree so we can discuss, LIKE, comment, do what you gotta do below. Let me know what you think!
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LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 9/16/2015, 8:42 AM
@WakandasSoul didn't @ me.....

LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 9/16/2015, 8:50 AM
@WakandasSoul

You didn't @ me but you @ @SauronsBANE twice

DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 9/16/2015, 8:58 AM
@WakandasSoul

AWESOME ARTICLE.

I really agree with everything you said, AOU was disappointing on so many levels for me, I tried to re-watch it, and it still just doesn't hold up

I liked the point you made about Joss' Ultron sounding better on paper, because the majority of his dialogue in AOU was great, but yeah, I never got the feeling I wanted from AOU

Good point about Cap too, I really think he should have at least mentioned the Bucky thing, just a reference would have been cool, that's partly why I'm worried about the Quicksilver/Scarlett Witch thing, if Scarlett Witch doesn't mention Quicksilver in Civil War, it would just be odd.

I wish AOU was more of it's own movie too, it definitely had it's good moments though
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 9/16/2015, 9:01 AM
On topic, even though you didn't want to invite me to your topic ;P, I agree.

Now with that said, there are things I felt AOU did that were better than Avengers but what really sort of gets me is the final act and let's say the "boss battle" of the film.

It's really the same as Avengers 1. Avengers settle differences over an event that happens (Avengers 1 Coulson's death, AOU Vision's birth), pointless useless army took over city, Avengers fight army, Ultron really doesn't do much fighting (except goes after Thor which makes no sense how he can defeat Thor considering he couldn't beat Cap solo or Iron Man solo unless Thor actually isn't as strong and powerful as we think he is, Avengers save people and stop villain.

I guess that's my problem in the final act. Ultron can take on Hulk and we never see that. Now it's more fanboy service than character development but to downplay a character who is extremely powerfully like that in the comics seems wrong. It's like if Bane stood no match to Batman in their first meeting and Bane lost to Batman.

When this film feelts different from Avengers 1, that's when it succeeds but there are too many times where it feels similar to Avengers 1, mainly in the final act, where I'm like "so we have nothing new"?
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 9/16/2015, 9:09 AM
While I feel AOU is a way better written film and presented, it does suffer from problems MOS had in my opinion.

Like anyone remember how when Avengers 1 ended, we saw all the news stories on the TV reaction to what just happened? I feel like we needed something like that considering an entire city was just destroyed but we get Cap, Thor, and Tony talking about if Vision is truly worthy.

I honestly never got the hate for the hulk/Hulkbuster fight. If Tony didn't stop Hulk with the Hulkbuster, what would have? Hulk would still be tearing places apart. How it was done with Tony and Bruce working on Hulkbuster together was a great idea.

It's like how WB/DC will likely do Batman vs Superman with no clear winner or like how Avengers 1 did Tony vs Thor with no clear winner.
EricBorder
EricBorder - 9/16/2015, 9:10 AM
Nice, thumbed!! Great article. Totally agree

I still feel like if they made AOU it's own movie and brought Pym and Janet into the picture it would have been better, wish Ant-Man came out earlier so that it would have been able to make more sense within the universe

Something like this, but obviously written by someone who can write a screenplay, haha. Ultron's personality would also represent Pym's, and he would have the same anger toward Pym and affection towards Janet

"Pym’s lab is shown and you can see the “Ultron Mark 1” it looks similar to the comics, almost like a big metal computer with a vent, that represents a mouth and LEDs that represent eyes.

Pym is working in his lab on Ultron and figures out how to make a copy of his own brain patterns and transfer it into his computer. He fuses this into another file titled “Ultron 1” this file transfer is on a big screen in his lab.

Pym is about to go upstairs to relax with Janet when he hears, “No need to plug me in Daddy, I’m alive, just like you.”
EricBorder
EricBorder - 9/16/2015, 9:26 AM
@WakandasSoul

Thanks, yeah, exactly. It also would have been cool to see Ultron take control of Iron Man's armor and stuff like that, and to see Ultron's full potential, what an AI with the personality of an angry child could do with all of that power, I'm actually really surprised we didn't see any of that
Baka
Baka - 9/16/2015, 9:45 AM
id say i like them both for different reasons i dont see one as being better than the other.
Gab
Gab - 9/16/2015, 10:02 AM
@WakandasSoul My Man!
BlackIceJoe
BlackIceJoe - 9/16/2015, 10:06 AM
I agree and I'm happy someone wrote this. It's crazy because I was looking forward to this movie more than Ant-Man and to me Ant-Man was the better film.
kinghulk
kinghulk - 9/16/2015, 10:11 AM
i enjoyed both films, regarding the circle shot we sort of got a variation of that with the shot at the end of them defending the core thing, the camera spins around them as they fight it was really cool.
sKeemAn
sKeemAn - 9/16/2015, 10:11 AM
Great read, and write-up. I can honestly say I agree with a lot of your points. Avengers 1 had a lot of the magic that AOU did not have. However, for me AOU, felt like it was more of a team movie. I liked the team dynamics, and different personalities coming together again to defeat the common threat. I agree that Ultron was not as menacing as I had hoped. I also would've liked to see him fight all them straight up to show that he is a physical match for them.
kinghulk
kinghulk - 9/16/2015, 10:12 AM
wakandasoul- "same here, oh and Ultron taking over say the War Machine armor or Tony's stuff would've been great!"
dont know if you saw the deleted scenes but it explains why ultron didnt take over their suits later on in the film
AquamanIsTheBest
AquamanIsTheBest - 9/16/2015, 10:18 AM
So basically your "proof" is all of your opinions...

Riiiiight.

kinghulk
kinghulk - 9/16/2015, 10:19 AM
Wakandasoul- for me it wasent better but it the avengers one much just as awesome while also doing less, the AOU was very busy but very cool but the circle shot in avengers was simple and just incredible also loved the "im always angry bit just before"
Pasto
Pasto - 9/16/2015, 10:21 AM
You tagged 100 people but didn't tag me, and now you've only received 7 thumbs up. Serves you right.

thewanderer
thewanderer - 9/16/2015, 10:35 AM
Someone didn't watch Thor: The Dark World if he doesn't understand why Thor was on Earth...

Also, this is the better iconic moment than the one in Avengers (which was also great)





thewanderer
thewanderer - 9/16/2015, 10:36 AM
and of course this one as well.

https://drayfish.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/avengers-gif.gif
kinghulk
kinghulk - 9/16/2015, 10:41 AM
Th0rOdinson- i think that is partially due to the filters used, i remember watching a video about it how it makes the animation look a bit more cartoonish, there was no filter in avengers 1 end fight and it looked great. also agreed on the cotumes
kinghulk
kinghulk - 9/16/2015, 10:41 AM
*costumes
Brainiac13
Brainiac13 - 9/16/2015, 10:45 AM
@WakandasSoul

Great article.......Yeah I agree....Avengers is a better movie than AoU but I prefer the latter...even though it's has so many plot holes and flaws...
thewanderer
thewanderer - 9/16/2015, 10:46 AM
@WakandasSoul

there's a whole scene of TDW of him telling Odin (really Loki) that he can't be king because he wants to go protect Earth...
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