Tim Burton On Difference Between BATMAN And Today's Superhero Movies, SUPERMAN, And Possible Return To Genre

Tim Burton On Difference Between BATMAN And Today's Superhero Movies, SUPERMAN, And Possible Return To Genre

Beetlejuice Beetlejuice director Tim Burton has explained why making Batman was a much different experience than it would be today and also reflects on Superman Lives and a possible return to the genre.

By JoshWilding - Aug 22, 2024 12:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Batman (1989)
Source: Variety

When Batman was released in 1989, it changed the game for superheroes. However, it was also a very unique movie and one which could have only been made by a filmmaker like Tim Burton. 

Talking to Variety about the upcoming release of Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, Burton reflected on making Batman and how the perception of the comic book movie genre at the time freed him from studio pressure or interference. 

"I was lucky because at that time, the word 'franchise' didn’t exist," the director said. "So 'Batman' felt slightly experimental at the time. It deviated from what the perception [of a superhero movie] might be. So you didn’t hear that kind of studio feedback, and being in England, it was even further removed."

"We really just got to focus on the film and not really think about those things that now they think about even before you do it," Burton continued. "I never felt like I was misusing company funds with studios, if you know what I mean. But it also just felt kind of pure because I wasn’t really a proper filmmaker, so I just did things that I felt was me. It felt like that’s why they wanted me."

After the massive success of Batman, Burton was granted even more freedom with 1992's Batman Returns...until he wasn't. 

"I wasn’t really interested in doing a sequel, but I liked Penguin and Catwoman so I got reenergized by the whole thing," he explained. "And that was when we started hearing the word franchise and where the studio started going, 'What’s the black stuff coming out of the Penguin’s mouth?' It was the first time the cold wind of that kind of thing came upon me."

Studio interference also played a role in why his and Nicolas Cage's Superman Lives never came to fruition. Admitting it's "quite traumatic" to work on a movie that doesn't happen, Burton added, "I just try to focus on things that I feel strongly about and get rid of all the noise surrounding them."

Following his return to make a Beetlejuice sequel, the trade wondered whether Burton would tackle another superhero project. "At the moment, I would say no," he confirmed. "Like I said, I come at things from different points of view, so I would never say never to anything. But, at the moment, it’s not something I’d be interested in."

The Flash offered a glimpse at Cage's Superman; unfortunately, it was a nightmare-inducing CG creation which the actor has since disowned. Burton also had no involvement with Michael Keaton's brief return as Batman in the DCEU.

Would you like to see the legendary filmmaker step behind the camera for another superhero movie?

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RedFury
RedFury - 8/22/2024, 12:12 PM
I'm quite impressed that he managed to speak his mind about his approach, and lack of interest when it comes to the superhero genre without dragging it through the dirt. Seems like a rarity these days with veteran directors.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/22/2024, 12:29 PM
@RedFury - yeah , I appreciate it though I guess since he’s already tackled Batman that it would seem hypocritical if he did disparage the genre
Thing94
Thing94 - 8/22/2024, 12:57 PM
@RedFury - Yeah he didn't say it wasn't cinema like some directors! We're looking at you Marty! Lol
Matchesz
Matchesz - 8/22/2024, 12:12 PM
Movies back then were made without a sequel in mind and each was treated like a passion project. Now everythings built for the next installment so you now got half ass storytelling with teasers sprinkled all over and corny inside jokes probably which was fast tracked into theaters to hurry up and get to the next one
HermanM
HermanM - 8/22/2024, 12:18 PM
Too bad Burton's Superman film wasn't made. It would have been the best live action Superman movie of the last 40 years. It really got a lot right that everything else has neglected. Superman wouldn't have known he was an alien until years into his Superman career, long into adulthood, just like the comics, and when he found out, it would have meant nothing to him beyond the explanation for his powers. Wesley Strick, for all his faults, at least understood that Clark Kent with powers is the real person, and that it is Clark Kent who creates the costumed Superman persona (along with the S & suit) and the mild mannered reporter disguise. Superman has the best possible life he could have had because he grew up on earth with the Kents. Cage's suit also looked great and had the colors right, with the royal blue, the red trunks and yellow belt. It was the only good part in the awful Ezra Miller Flash movie.

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Also, Burton's Batman film is still the best live action version of the character to date.
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 8/22/2024, 12:38 PM
"I was lucky because at that time, the word 'franchise' didn’t exist," the director said.

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Se4M4NSt4ine
Se4M4NSt4ine - 8/22/2024, 12:39 PM
I know we’ve got it on Netflix with Gaiman himself working on the project. But I always thought Burton would’ve done Sandman justice on the big screen. User Comment Image

Plus, I always feel like original creators should never be allowed to translate their own projects to other sort of media. I’m a firm a believer you should let someone translate your work in what they specialise in, rather than the other way around. Peter Jackson and TLOTR is a good example of that.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/22/2024, 12:46 PM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - he would have been good for that

Him doing something like the Crow with his gothic aesthetic would be interesting
Razorface1
Razorface1 - 8/22/2024, 1:50 PM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - nah, Burton just likes making things weird-lite instead of good.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/22/2024, 12:45 PM
Honestly , I hadn’t thought about it till now but what is that black stuff coming out of Penguins mouth lol…

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Anyway , I still like Batman 89 moreso then Returns personally but I’ll always appreciate that iteration of the character and his world since it’s one of the reasons I got into comics & superhero stuff in general.

I still think his Gotham is my favorite (second being Reeves) in live action.
TheRedLeader
TheRedLeader - 8/22/2024, 12:45 PM
Give Etrigan to Burton.
Thing94
Thing94 - 8/22/2024, 1:22 PM
A Tim Burton Spider-Man movie with Morlun as the villain - let's do it
MarvelousMarty
MarvelousMarty - 8/22/2024, 1:27 PM
I remember going on opening night to see Batman. I just couldn't believe it was real.
ProudPatriot76
ProudPatriot76 - 8/22/2024, 1:41 PM
I think The Crow would have been Burton’s thing. Or even Swamp Thing. Just dark and gritty and horrific. Maybe horrible, but just his stylized world would fit those characters
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 8/22/2024, 2:03 PM
his horny penguin was best penguin
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