Could The Joker Return?

i think your right, i posted my views in a previous article and i'll post it here as well. I am all for the joker being in the next movie, whether as the main villain or not. The joker is such a big part of Batman it would be a crime not to have him in there at all.

As for who they cast, i'll agree with you that Depp could pull it off, whether he'd want to is another matter. I havent put to much thought into my pick, it's off the top of my head, but i think Ryan Gosling could do it. Sounds awkward i know, but it's just off the top of my head.

Love the pic by the way ror, maybe we dont have to look that far for the next joker.

yeah, i wouldn't want to make that decision

Im not saying that anyone could do the joker like heath did, it was f***ing amazing what he did with that role, but the only way the third movie could be any good if they include the joker is to get an actor and let him do is own thing, and of course i mean the actor has to out do heath, if you try to do the exact same thing then we all will be dissapointed, no one can do it like heath did so dont even try just something a little diff not to far from what was establish and make it amazing, thats why actors get paid what they do, they get paid to protray what they think the character would do and they have to entertain us

Im not saying that anyone could do the joker like heath did, it was f***ing amazing what he did with that role, but the only way the third movie could be any good if they include the joker is to get an actor and let him do is own thing, and of course i mean the actor has to out do heath, if you try to do the exact same thing then we all will be dissapointed, no one can do it like heath did so dont even try just something a little diff not to far from what was establish and make it amazing, thats why actors get paid what they do, they get paid to protray what they think the character would do and they have to entertain us

I think that Javier Bardem would play an exellent joker,if u seen no country for old men yall would kno wat im talkin bout. the only problem is 2 many people cant move on past ledger.

true he does have the accent, and he is a bit older, good actors have a way of masking there native tounge (hugh jackman as wolverine,or any of his roles for that matter), and hollywood has age reducing make up, so it could work.

I'm not sure on this. I understand it's the role we need to be looking at, not the actor but lets think about it properly. If Joker was back then he would have to have the same personality that Heath gave him. Any actor capeable of pulling that off would have to be talented and thats the problem. No actor with that talent would want to play the Joker whilst being told how to do it or constantly thinking "is this in keeping with Heaths Joker". They would want to create their own Joker and that just won't fit with the franchise.

The only way we could have the Joker in a direct follow up film is, as people have said, in an Arkham cell bearly lit talking from the shadows. But is THAT in keeping with his personality? Wouldn't he be the type of person to jump up into your face from behind the bars?

The Joker could be in a "Dark Knight Returns" film as his personality would have had time to change slighty, giving the actor more freedom.

I think Batman needs the Joker to be a constant thorn in his side. Just how to do that is the big question!

I think what they should do is take a cue from TDKR and set it a few years after the last movie..not as long as that comic..but say like 3 or 4 years. Batman is still in hiding and has pretty much retired. This also alows the Joker character to change and gives another actor a go to put his own spin on it. Hell they could take alot of inspiration from that masterpiece..have Batman forced to come back because of an absolutely remorseless enemy like Bane or maybe even Croc..whos strings are of course being pulled by the Joker. Batman goes on a brutal crusade and very nearly brakes his one rule..[frick] it let him break it! Which forces Superman...ok ill stop ther, never gonna happen!

Ive seen the Johnny Depp thing comin for a while, and whether it hapoens or not, you gotta admit its damn likely

I say leave the Joker thing unresolved (for now) and move on to another heavy. Give everyone time to fully digest and appreciate Heath's performance. Remember, a lot of people DID say there'd be no way he could possibly out-do Nicholson's performance, and look what happened! Personally, I think Jack's an OVER-RATED SUCKWAD (yeah, I said it, who wants some?)! Oh, he was a serious actor at one time in his life, but then he started to buy into his own BS and the myth of '...JACK'! But enough of that... IN TIME (when wounds finally heal) cast a really kick-ass actor to step in an do ANOTHER take on the iconic role. My hope is that they don't eventually kill off Mr. Happy (as they seem to do with all the really cool bad guys) - Holmes must always have his Moriarity...

The Face : Nice call with Ryan Gosling. He's a damn good actor. I gotta admit that i never thought i would buy into a white paint Joker... still dont like it, but damn Ledger was that good! I didnt want to see Ledger in the role either. I was wrong. And i still think that Burton's Jack Nicolson playing the Joker was a horrible choice as well. I love the joker like a Red Headed Step Child!!!! Hell i would love to see an entire movie based on the Joker as being as mass/mass murderer. That being said i dont think they should do anything more than a few scenes where they are introducing Harley as his doctor trying to get to konw his true identity and uncovering some hiden personalities. Which of course leads to a break out of the new Joker at the end of BatMan 3.

Should they have Harlequinn if the Joker returns? I hope they can find someone that can compete with Heath Ledger's performance.

Ya I Know! lol. People were saying how ugly she was and I wanted to defend her, but couldn't. I've seen her pretty before, but my god! lol.

But anyways. If they're havin' the Joker, IDK who I'd want. I think I'd lean more towards Harlequinn. Just cuz she's never been done before and I think it would be cool to see her.

And I think Ben Foster has done a lot of wierd roles that he's been awesome in. I say give him an audition for both Joker and Riddler. I'm sure he could do something cool.

I was personally hoping that somebody could do better than Nicholson. Wouldnt be very hard...it was a completely different take on the franchise. And i dont know who could possibly take Ledger's place. They need somebody with as much talent and dedication, of course. But, i trust Nolan on the outcome. He's done an amazing job with the first two. So if it comes to it, i'll support whoever he casts.

Before I begin my number one point that everyone forgets is that the whole point Nolan has taken Batman in a new direction was to get away from focusing too much on who the villain/s was/are - this series of the franchise is about BATMAN also not forgetting Bruce Wayne, therefore he is and always will be the main focus of the story's arc.

IF and it's a really big IF, they did have to include some relevant (read; not just for the sake of it!) section to The Joker - it should ONLY be IF;

a) They have unused footage of Heath Ledger as The Joker that can be incorporated into a coherent structure.
b) Use Heath Ledger's voice at ALL times.
And
c) The Joker should NOT be the main bad guy!

Have his character working in the background - suggesting his crimes with Joker cards and "marked" (Jokerised) cops, batmen wannabe's, senators, etc.

As well have the villain of choice used as a puppet of The Joker – like they did with Two-Face. (Though make clear they are being manipulated – and don’t over that, have them do there own thing too!)

The ONLY time another person should be used is a stunt man to fill out any added scenes much like they did in The Crow.
Additional touches like showing Harlequinn / goons / Arkham escapee's, news footage and general references from other characters as well would be cool.

It was fine to have Maggie Gyllanhaal as Rachel Dawes, since her character wasn't a big part of the story last time plus Katie Holmes performance wasn't memorable - we can't say that this time of Heath Ledger.

As said before any great actor will want to put there own spin on the character which is fine for a different installment of the Batman franchise. For now let’s focus on the theme and the story, then add a villain to unbalance anything you want Batman trying to achieve.

I gotta say everyone here has some really great ideas as far as the direction these characters should go and the people who should be playing them. I agree that the focus should be on Batman and not the villains. But the Joker always remains a threat to Batman. He is the polar opposite of him. He represents the reason that transformed Bruce Wayne into a vigilante...lawless chaos. I can't imagine he wouldn't have anything to do with some of the other bad dudes in the next one.
Any way I have this kinda cool but not so high quality video of how it might look without Batman around, someone mentioned a movie about the Joker running around causing mayhem...it's kinda like that!

Just cut and paste this below...I don't know how to do a tag!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZhcUbwvd7s

I highly doubt Depp would do it...I think Ben Foster would be a great choice for the next person to play the clown prince of crime...I also think Bane should be in the movie. We need to see a knock down drag out fight between the Batman and someone on par with his level of combat skills...email me @ [email protected] and lemme know what you guys think?

my choices are...

johnny depp...

and someone resembles ledger imho, is james franco (its just that he's too young)

what if jim carey would be joker this time? LOL just kidding

Well in fairness thehead, the red hood thing is only some writers interpretation of the Jokers origins, Alan Moore has him only put the hood on once before Batman gets hold of him, and Frank Miller disregards it completely.

sirbonesalot..you say Heath was over the top and then say Nicholson was better!! Talk about the pot and the kettle

I actually liked Jacks portrayal, it was one take on the many ways you could play him..i though Heaths was a better take though

Exactly elbeaster..in the Killing Joke he says "sometimes i remember it one way..sometimes another..i prefer a multiple choice past!" or something like that. So who knows what the truth is.

i think Dicaprio is very good but i doubt he could play that part. Franco looks the most like Ledger but again, not sure he has the chops. You know who could do it hands down, Daniel Day Lewis..the guy is a chameleon..obviously hes a bit old now though