JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Director Todd Phillips On Casting Lady Gaga As Harley Quinn & Sequel's Musical Elements

JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Director Todd Phillips On Casting Lady Gaga As Harley Quinn & Sequel's Musical Elements

Following last night's trailer, Joker: Folie à Deux director Todd Phillips has addressed the sequel's musical elements, and the casting of Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn...

By MarkCassidy - Apr 10, 2024 10:04 AM EST
Filed Under: Joker

The first trailer for Joker: Folie à Deux debuted during CinemaCon last night before being released online, giving us an intriguing glimpse of some footage from Todd Phillips' DC "Elseworlds" sequel.

In a change to the usual character dynamic, it's revealed that Arthur Fleck (Joaquin Phoenix) meets Harley Quinn (Lady Gaga) as a fellow patient in Arkham Asylum, and it looks like she'll be the one asserting influence over him.

The loved-up pair plan their escape, and we get to see some shots from those much-discussed musical numbers - though nobody actually sings a word.

During the CinemaCon panel, Phillips downplayed the musical elements somewhat.

"We never really talked about it like that, but I like to say it's a film where music is an essential element. To me, that doesn't veer too far from the first film. Arthur [Fleck]'s weird and aloof and all these things, but he has music in him. He has a grace to him. That informed a lot of the dancing in the first film. It didn't feel like that big of a step here. It's different, but I think it'll make sense when you see it."

Though not yet confirmed, it's believed that these song and dance sequences will actually be part of the shared delusions experienced by Joker and Harley (hence the title), which could explain why Phillips is hesitant to describe the film as a straight-up musical.

As for the casting of pop megastar-turned actress Lady Gaga as Quinn, it sounds like it was a no-brainer for the filmmaker.

"We cast Gaga because she's magic. I was a producer on A Star Is Born. That was the first time I really met her and got to watch her work. As we were writing this script, Scott [Silver], who I wrote it with, kept going back to her."

Have another look at the trailer below.

Whatever form the songs take, we have heard that the soundtrack will be "heavily inspired" by classic Liza Minnelli musicals such as Cabaret, New York, New York, and That's Entertainment.

We still don't know if Lady Gaga is actually writing the soundtrack, but we'd say there's a decent chance she'll pen at least one song for the movie.

In addition to Phoenix and Gaga, Joker 2 will see the return of Zazie Beetz as Sophie Dumond, along with new cast members Brendan Gleeson, Catherine Keener, Jacob Lofland and Harry Lawtey in undisclosed roles.

Joker: Folie à Deux is set to hit theaters on October 4, 2024. It's been rated R for, “some strong violence, language throughout, some sexuality, and brief full nudity.”

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Spoken
Spoken - 4/10/2024, 10:03 AM
It looks so good. Very excited.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 4/10/2024, 10:47 AM
@Spoken - right there with ya. have been listening to the 1st movie's two trailers and this new one all morning. People don't realize how important the score and song selection was in the first.
Se4M4NSt4ine
Se4M4NSt4ine - 4/10/2024, 10:15 AM
I throughly believe she’s gonna steal the show, she’s phenomenally talented. She’s one of the best female actresses and singers working within the industry.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 4/10/2024, 10:48 AM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - agreed to a point, but Phoenix is a mega-screen presence as well so the two combined should be epic.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 4/10/2024, 10:23 AM
She looks like she’s doing a great job in the film and wouldn’t be surprised if she turns out to be the MVP of the film…

I dig her Harley outfit too in this!!.

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The musical element is one of the things that has me somewhat intrigued in this…

I do think it will be showcased through their shared delusions moreso then them breaking out into song & dance which I think is more fitting.
PC04
PC04 - 4/10/2024, 10:33 AM
@TheVisionary25 - Ah! I'm in this GIF!
Itwasme
Itwasme - 4/10/2024, 10:58 AM
@PC04 - you're Lady Gaga?!?!?!?
PC04
PC04 - 4/10/2024, 11:03 AM
@Itwasme - SHH! its a secret =)
Itwasme
Itwasme - 4/10/2024, 11:30 AM
@PC04 - haha.

On a more.serious note, congrats on making it in the film. Can you identify yourself in the crowd?
PC04
PC04 - 4/10/2024, 11:53 AM
@Itwasme - Unfortunately I have not been able to figure out how to upload pictures here for quite some time. I'm bottom left of the crowd. Long hair, facial hair. Pretty nondescript from most of the people there. There's some funny and fun stuff that happens outside that courthouse. You'll enjoy it!
Itwasme
Itwasme - 4/10/2024, 11:56 AM
@PC04 - nice, looking forward to it. I plan to shout "I know that guy" really loudly when this scene comes on in the theater.
PC04
PC04 - 4/10/2024, 11:58 AM
@Itwasme - Ha! ComicBookFriends Unite!
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 4/10/2024, 10:30 AM
Great Casting.

Although I'm not entirely sure she's a fellow patient in Arkham Asylum.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 4/10/2024, 10:50 AM
@Nomis929 - what do you believe she is? just curious.....

a therapist within the crowd of crazies, a figment of Arthur's imagination? or on the same level, or worse, as Arthur's psychosis......
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 4/10/2024, 11:07 AM
@lazlodaytona - I don't think they going to go the "figment of Arthur's imagination" with her since they did that in the first movie and Todd Phillips knows not repeat himself. Although, Obviously, Arthur will have fantasies about her.

I do actually think she's a therapist within the crowd of crazies. ingratiating herself with them by particiapting in music theory sessions, going to movies with them and even dressing similar to them.

If you look at some scenes she's obvious not keep in the institution because she's clearly on the outside in some scense (when she blows smoke to him while he's in the cell, dressing up and going to the courthouse and drawing the smile on the glass at the end of the trailer.

But I think Philips will REVERSE the roles with them though, as in I think Harley is going to be the one who influence Arthur to embraces his insanity and break out and be Joker.
HammerLegFoot
HammerLegFoot - 4/10/2024, 11:21 AM
@lazlodaytona - She's like Mark Ruffalo from Shutter Island
SuperJefe
SuperJefe - 4/10/2024, 11:23 AM
@Nomis929 - Agree - exactly what I thought. She probably will see something in him that sets him apart from the others in Arkham, and feels like Arthur Fleck is the deranged alter ego and Joker is his true self…who then helps her find her true self. Or something like that.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/10/2024, 2:01 PM
@Nomis929 - "Todd Phillips knows not to repeat himself."

You obviously didn't see The Hangover part II.

Or The Hangover part III.
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 4/10/2024, 2:15 PM
@ObserverIO - LOL!!

Correction: Todd Phillips learned not to repeat himself.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 4/12/2024, 11:52 PM
@ObserverIO - i was gonna say that but I loved what he put so much I didn't wanna tease him @Nomis929
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 4/10/2024, 10:43 AM
I hated the first. Watched this trailer and just simply can't get into it. Looks like a mashup of Joker/Fight Club/Sweeny Todd.

i hope it's good, makes money and others enjoy it... but it's a hard pass for me
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 4/10/2024, 10:51 AM
@MotherGooseUPus - not attacking, just curious why you hated the first. before it came out did you have high hopes for it?
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 4/10/2024, 12:16 PM
@lazlodaytona - no worries man. i didnt have high hopes for the first, but i wanted a "comic" accurate take on the joker. i know he really doesnt have a "true" origin like Batman, or Spiderman... but he's been around long enough... and this movie just wanst anything close at all...it was literally just a mentally ill guy who ends up dressing like a clown. had this movie NOT been named "Joker" or part of DC at all, i would of liked it as it brings up alot of issues surrounding mental illness and people needing helpl; i'm all for that... but being its "supposed" to be DC elseworlds and comic related, i hated it. I don't like musicals to begin with so i know i won't like this one
TCronson
TCronson - 4/10/2024, 3:23 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - in what way exactly it's anything like Fight Club?
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 4/10/2024, 5:31 PM
@TCronson - where he makes up a character in his head and vicariously lives through them... aka, im guessing he makes up Harley quinn... but maybe i'm wrong. thats the way the trailer made it seem to me... either way, idc as i wont be watching it
cadunovaes01
cadunovaes01 - 4/10/2024, 10:53 AM
Great cast. I think both will deliver a wonderful acting in this one.
IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 4/10/2024, 11:02 AM
The same guy who directed Will Ferrell streaking, haha.

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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 4/10/2024, 11:06 AM
@IAmAHoot - also this guy…

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ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/10/2024, 2:04 PM
@IAmAHoot - Funny how he only became a wannabe Scorsese after he was hired to do a film that they originally wanted Scorsese to direct.
IAmAHoot
IAmAHoot - 4/10/2024, 4:09 PM
@ObserverIO - Sounds like a lot of whining over one movie…
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/11/2024, 4:53 AM
@IAmAHoot - If that sound like whining you wanna get your ears checked out.
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 4/10/2024, 11:15 AM
Gaga was the lead in Bradley Cooper's movie. Bradley Cooper is friends with Todd Phillips and was a producer on Joker. I think that may have a little something to do with why she's Harley.
RolandD
RolandD - 4/10/2024, 11:23 AM
@THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - In the article, Phillips said that he was a producer and got to see Gaga’s work firsthand.
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 4/10/2024, 11:34 AM
@RolandD - lol yeah I just read it

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jumpingtheshark
jumpingtheshark - 4/10/2024, 1:18 PM
The first one was a Taxi Drive/King of Comedy ripoff with a coat of DC IP. This looks to be more of the same. It's another cash grab that has more-or-less nothing to do with the source material. Hard pass.
TCronson
TCronson - 4/10/2024, 3:19 PM
@jumpingtheshark - ok, bot.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 4/10/2024, 2:26 PM
He's really trying to downplay the musical aspect after the backlash. He's like "It's not a musical guys, I promise!"

(except for all those covers and original songs by Lady Gaga)
TCronson
TCronson - 4/10/2024, 3:22 PM
Some people in the comment section are unbelievably stupid, like wow.
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 4/11/2024, 1:29 PM
Whether people like the plot is one thing but there’s not denying it’s going to be well shot, acted, and directed like the first was.

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