THE BATMAN Director Matt Reeves Confirms Trilogy Plans; Touches On Sequel's Villain & Winter Setting

THE BATMAN Director Matt Reeves Confirms Trilogy Plans; Touches On Sequel's Villain & Winter Setting

The Batman director Matt Reeves has confirmed that he still intends to complete his trilogy, while also touching on - but not naming - the sequel's villain.

By MarkCassidy - Sep 13, 2024 02:09 PM EST
Filed Under: The Batman

While doing press for HBO's The Penguin spin-off series, The Batman director Matt Reeves has shared some very interesting new details about his upcoming sequel, which is scheduled to begin shooting early next year.

While speaking to Collider, Reeves confirmed that he still intends to complete the trilogy he originally envisioned prior to James Gunn and Peter Safran taking over as co-heads of the recently-implemented DC Studios.

"Yes, that is still the plan," said the filmmaker. "I mean, it’s sticking very closely to the path we envisioned."

There was some concern that any plans that may have been in place would be changed with the formation of the DCU, especially since a new take on the Dark Knight is set to be introduced in The Brave and the Bold down the line.

"Things kind of shifted," Reeves admitted. "So, when we came up with the idea to do The Penguin, that was something where I had always intended to continue Penguin's story, and wanted to tell this story of his beginning of rise to power. Because we know that he's introduced in The Batman as a kind of mid-level, sort of overlooked, mocked figure, who's not yet in anyone's eyes the kingpin we come to know him as in the lore. And so, that was deliberate because I wanted— whereas it wasn't Batman's origin story, I wanted the origin stories of these other characters, of the Rogues Gallery and that story was originally going to be the entrée into the next movie."

Reeves went on to confirm that The Penguin picks up about a week after the events of The Batman.

"The story plays out over the next weeks that take you toward the end of the year. We don't play Christmas or New Years, but we're getting there."

The director has previously revealed that The Batman - Part II will pick up shortly after The Penguin finale, which obviously suggests that the sequel will have a winter setting.

As for the movie's mysterious antagonist(s), Reeves isn't quite ready to reveal who the Caped Crusader will be facing-off against next, but he did touch on the subject during a separate interview with Total Film.

“I want the emotional part of the story to be Robert Pattinson’s – to be Bruce & Batman’s... I’m excited by the antagonist of the next movie, but I don’t want Batman’s arc to step back to allow space for another group of characters.”

This would seem to indicate that Bats won't be up against numerous villains, as previous rumors have claimed. We know Colin Farrell will be back as the Penguin, so there's always a chance the movie's primary antagonist will be Barry Keoghan's Joker.

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dancingmonkey08
dancingmonkey08 - 9/13/2024, 2:19 PM
I know we have to see how all this plays out, but would anyone really like to see The Brave and the Bold be a sequel to this Batman trilogy, this trilogy could tackle the early days of Batman, where things are more grounded, whereas the Brave and the Bold could be set later in the same timeline with the Batfamily and more fantastical villains

The only thing stopping this is if Reeves decides to kill off any of his villains or Batman himself before the end of the trilogy....we shall see
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 9/13/2024, 3:10 PM
@dancingmonkey08 - I know I don't doubt it
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/13/2024, 3:59 PM
@dancingmonkey08 - Do we know what year The Batman is set in? I mean there are smart phones and stuff so it can't be too early. Although maybe the DCU is more advanced technologically than our world so maybe The Batman is set 20 years ago.

Robert Pattinson will be in his 40s when The Batman part II rolls around, even though he's playing a Bruce Wayne in his early twenties at the very beginning of his career as Batman. So I think he could easily pull double duty playing both a younger and older Bruce Wayne.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 9/14/2024, 1:39 PM
@dancingmonkey08 - no. I want the comic accurate Batman for DCU Brave and the Bold....Batfamily, world's ACTUAL greatest detective, with the gothic fantastical elements as a valid option considering this is a universe with superheroes. Reeve's Batman can be its own thing.
dancingmonkey08
dancingmonkey08 - 9/14/2024, 4:30 PM
@McMurdo - have you ever head of evolving, from Reeve's Batman into a comic accurate one...now sure, as I have already stated if Reeve's Batman [frick]s something up, yeah I would also say dont connect the two, but Holland's Spidey is a perfect example, started out being Iron Boy, and if Spidey 4 delivers on the promise set by the end of No Way Home, he will be more like the Spider-Man from the comic

As I said before, if Reeves doesnt irreversibly damage a character, they could evolve this version of Batman into the comic accurate inspired Brave and The Bold
solskulldeath
solskulldeath - 9/16/2024, 11:05 AM
@dancingmonkey08 - I dig it.
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 9/13/2024, 2:22 PM
Still sticking with Hush and Clayface. Can't see how Freeze would fit.
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soberchimera
soberchimera - 9/13/2024, 3:03 PM
@MCUKnight11 - I mean the winter setting…..
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 9/13/2024, 3:32 PM
@MCUKnight11 - Reeves said recently that he doesn't want any "fantasy like powered" characters even if he can take a "realistic" approach to it like how Nolan did he wants to focus on the grounded villains that you can find in real life.

Rumors say that its likely Joker, Calandar Man, or the court of owls. I think Clayface and Freeze are not being considered due to being "too fantastical" for his crime universe. Hush will be too similar to Riddler from the 1st film, IMO.
kazuma
kazuma - 9/13/2024, 3:57 PM
@mastakilla39 - Easy.

A new killer is on the scene. A string of murders against doctors has been happening in Gotham. Each victim has been discovered Flash Frozen.
Freeze in on a revenge trip after all the doctors that didn't cure is now dead wife.

Flash freezing is real and not fantastical. Keeps his concept, and why he does what he does intact all while grounding him.

McMurdo
McMurdo - 9/14/2024, 1:40 PM
@MCUKnight11 - it can't be hush because hush was aped for Riddler. If it's Hush it'll be essentially the same exact thing and this film will suck.
relentless1
relentless1 - 9/14/2024, 11:12 PM
@soberchimera - that doesn't mean anything, Returns had a winter setting and the iceman was nowhere to be found
soberchimera
soberchimera - 9/15/2024, 3:07 PM
@relentless1 - Yeah, but the studio insisted Penguin be the villain because they thought he was Batman’s biggest villain after Joker because of the Adam West see despite Burton wanting to use Two-Face. Reeves seems to have more creative control.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/13/2024, 2:25 PM
Having Gotham in the winter for live action again would be wonderful!!.

It also possibly sets up a certain ice themed villain…

I know Reeves said he wouldn’t go fully fantastical but I think Freeze could work in a somewhat grounded fashion given cryogenics nowadays!!.

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MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 9/13/2024, 2:40 PM
i for one am excited to see what reeves does with Part II and hope he gets to complete his trilogy. Yes, its grounded like Nolans but i still think its different enough where i can love and appreciate both.
VicSage
VicSage - 9/13/2024, 2:40 PM
Potentially Court of Owls and Mr. Freeze. I could see Mr. Freeze terrorizing Gotham for a cure for his wife, who was a victim of the Court's desire for immortality. Would still make it fit into the "crime saga" Reeves mentions while exploring other themes in the Batman mythos.

Battinson is learning what justice means. He is learning how to be better.

Mr. Freeze and the Court of Owls works perfectly here.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/13/2024, 2:47 PM
@VicSage - Court of Owls fits perfectly thinking about

Him saying he doesn’t want any characters to take ficus away from this version of Bruce/Batman’s arc so to just have this faceless organization makes sense since you won’t have to develop them much
JFerguson
JFerguson - 9/13/2024, 2:50 PM
This Batman needs to inject adrenaline just to fight a common goon. And there’s nothing wrong with that for this take on the character, but what makes you think he could physically fight fantastical villains like Clayface and Mr Freeze?

He can’t. I’ve come to terms this is a purely detective version of the character.
hainesy
hainesy - 9/13/2024, 2:55 PM
There are like 5 different Batman universes right now and it's stupid. I liked The Batman, but let's move on and have one version please.
Deklipz
Deklipz - 9/13/2024, 3:27 PM
@hainesy - there’s 2. Main DCU and this one. Not hard to grasp with a little common sense.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 9/13/2024, 2:55 PM
bring back the freeze puns
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 9/13/2024, 2:56 PM
@harryba11zack - nipples can be in the extended cut
soberchimera
soberchimera - 9/13/2024, 3:04 PM
Don’t let Gunn box you out Matt
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regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 9/13/2024, 3:07 PM
@soberchimera

Dylan Clark says James Gunn is all-in for Matt Reeves’ BATMAN EPIC CRIME SAGA.

“The only conversation Matt & I had with James & Peter were that they loved [THE BATMAN], they loved that we’d already been in production with THE PENGUIN, and they were all-in on what we were doing”
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/13/2024, 4:03 PM
@regularmovieguy - He hasn't much choice though, since Matt Reeves contracts predate James Gunn's contracts. James Gunn is obligated to produce anything Gotham-related Matt Reeves does.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 9/13/2024, 5:18 PM
@ObserverIO

I just think it’s funny how people on this site think they’re continually butting heads or that James Gunn wants Matt’s franchise cancelled.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 9/13/2024, 3:23 PM
Definitely curious how Freeze could work in this grounded universe.
TheJester187
TheJester187 - 9/13/2024, 3:37 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - If you read the first 3 comics of Gotham PD it’s easy! Would be really disturbing seeing frozen limbs & detectives frozen. That’s why I think the winter setting sets up Freeze & the Mud could set up Clayface.
V
V - 9/13/2024, 3:27 PM
It's crazy to me that Twilight (he did great btw) Batman is the only one of the films I've never watched for a second time. Don't get me wrong I loved it when I watched it the first time but I dunno if it's the run time or the third act (feel like it would have been better if it ended with Riddlers arrest). It's just crazy how he isn't part of the larger universe AND we may have two Batmans? simultaneously... don't get me wrong more Batman the better but might be overkill! Praying Superman is great tho!
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/13/2024, 3:36 PM
@V - it might be the pacing since it’s a deliberately slow paced film since it takes inspiration from film noir.

Also I like the third act in that it allows Bruce’s arcs to come to fruition since he gets to show people that he can be a symbol of hope too
V
V - 9/13/2024, 3:42 PM
@TheVisionary25 - I did actually love the last scene in that sense, I feel like it was the only scene where Batman was seen at daytime and it was significantly brighter. He emerged a hero of Gotham and not a vigilante who operated in the shadows. Pacing was definitely slower.
TheJester187
TheJester187 - 9/13/2024, 3:34 PM
1st guess Clayface, Two Face, Mr. Freeze

Second guess: Joker, Hush, Clayface

Third guess: Joker, Clayface, Two Face

Keep in mind Matt gave us 3 Villains in part 1
V
V - 9/13/2024, 3:44 PM
Court of Owls adaption by Reeves would be spectacular, never been done and seems like it was hinted at in the first one.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/13/2024, 3:50 PM
@V - yes

Plus it would fit his Gotham so well
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