THE BATMAN Director Matt Reeves Shares First Official Plot Details For Upcoming Sequel

THE BATMAN Director Matt Reeves Shares First Official Plot Details For Upcoming Sequel

In a new interview, Matt Reeves has shared the first official plot details for The Batman Part II, and his comments have led to speculation that the Court of Owls will be involved...

By MarkCassidy - Sep 04, 2024 05:09 PM EST
Filed Under: The Batman

Rumors relating to The Batman director Matt Reeves' plans for his highly-anticipated sequel have been doing the rounds since shortly after the movie was announced, and we finally have an official update on the plot of The Batman Part II straight from the filmmaker himself.

Reeves shared a story outline during a new interview with SFX Magazine, confirming that the movie will once again feature Batman investigating a mystery. He doesn't reveal anything too significant beyond this, but his comments have ignited a lot of speculation online.

"We've shared [the script] as we've been going along with DC, and they're super excited," he tells the mag. "It's going to dig into the epic story about deeper corruption and it goes into places [Bruce Wayne] couldn't even anticipate in the first one.

The seeds of where this goes are all in the first movie & it expands in a way that will show you aspects of the character you never got to see. Batman is constantly battling these forces. But those forces can’t be entirely exorcised. So the next movie delves deeper into that. "

Deeper corruption in Gotham City? Sounds like The Dark Knight might be meeting the Court of Owls!

This shadowy sect was introduced in the pages of writer Scott Snyder and artist Greg Capullo's New 52 run as an organization of the wealthiest and most influential citizens in Gotham. The group operated in secret and remained unknown among the city's population, aside from some urban legends centered around their reputation for grisly assassinations carried out by indoctrinated agents known as Talons.

There are other possibilities for the sequel's main antagonist(s), of course, but when it comes to certain villains the Caped Crusader may or may not be going up against, Reeves did indicate that certain "fantastical" characters - including the likes of Gentleman Ghost - are off the table.

"What was important to me was to find a way to take these pop icons, these mythic characters that everybody knows, and translate it so that Gotham feels like a place in our world," he added. "We might push to the edge of fantastical, but we would never go into full fantastical. It's meant to feel quite grounded.

It doesn’t mean that you won’t see characters that people love. That’s exactly what we want to do. Gentleman Ghost is probably pushed a bit too far for us to be able to find a way to do, but there is a fun way to think about how we would take characters that might push over into a bit of the fantastical and find a way to make sense of that.”

Co-writer Mattson Tomlin recently confirmed reports that cameras are set to begin rolling in 2025.

"It's shooting next year. We're gearing up, and I will say that the bar just couldn't be higher," Tomlin told ScreenRant.

"It's the sequel to the first one," he continued. "But also, Matt [Reeves] is like no other. In the five years now that I've been working with him as closely as I have, I've tried to absorb as much as humanly possible from him, and I'm so grateful for the time that I get to spend with him, because he is a true artist who is operating in a world where sometimes art doesn't get to flourish, and he's trying to make something that really matters. So to be able to just be on the ride and be part of that process, it's pretty unbelievable, pretty tremendous. I'm psyched for the movie."

What do you make of Reeves' update? Do you think he was referring to the Court of Owls? Let us know in the comments section down below.

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ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 9/4/2024, 5:04 PM
I like the world that they built and am interested to see where they go with it.

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kazuma
kazuma - 9/4/2024, 7:06 PM
@ItsNotForMeWahh - I call him that and my uncultured friends always act confused.
ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 9/5/2024, 8:43 AM
@kazuma - Clearly your friends aren't weekly wackadoos
LibraMatter
LibraMatter - 9/4/2024, 5:04 PM
I like that he knows the stakes of this movie being good and takes it seriously. It’s pretty responsible as a director to not rush things and make sure everything is perfect.
Usernametaken
Usernametaken - 9/4/2024, 6:30 PM
@LibraMatter - It also gives time to learn from what worked and didn't work in the previous film.
MisterBones
MisterBones - 9/4/2024, 5:06 PM
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kazuma
kazuma - 9/4/2024, 7:06 PM
@MisterBones - I don't want the Court of Owls as I believe the first movie already dealt with similar themes, but I hope to GAWD, they do the maze. If they are going to do the Court of owls, please do it right. A faithful (somewhat), could make it the best Batman film to date.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 9/4/2024, 5:10 PM
bring back the nipples
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TheLobster
TheLobster - 9/4/2024, 5:41 PM
@harryba11zack - a fellow man of reason and conviction, I see.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 9/4/2024, 8:52 PM
@harryba11zack - I endorse this message.
ChrisRed
ChrisRed - 9/4/2024, 5:11 PM
I just hope that the sequel is a little more fast paced and that it includes at least one of Bat's more famous rogues (Scarecrow, Clayface, Ivy, Freeze etc.) and not just the Court of Owls.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/4/2024, 5:13 PM
@ChrisRed - I get ya though I liked the slower paced

Felt very classic noir imo
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 9/7/2024, 2:59 AM
@ChrisRed - how would you do those villains grounded and realistic to our world. I know he said "pushing the limits", but I'm just interested.
ChrisRed
ChrisRed - 9/7/2024, 5:38 PM
@RegularPoochie - Well, Scarecrow has already been done realistically before so that's certainly possible, although I'd prefer him to be a main villain and have a full costume his time.

Clayface could be more like his original comic book appearance (and in Caped Crusader).

Ivy could also be done realistically as a botanist/chemist with a nack for poisons and plant mutations.
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 9/8/2024, 2:51 AM
@ChrisRed - I like those ideas! I had to look up the clayface thing and it would work also perfectly
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 9/4/2024, 5:12 PM
Court of Owls would be perfect, and for this grounded take on Batman you can easily have a Talon that just happens to be a badass assassin just every bit as capable and resourceful as Batman.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 9/5/2024, 12:18 AM
@ModHaterSLADE - This is the only way to go. They must use Talon.
narrow290
narrow290 - 9/4/2024, 5:19 PM
Hyped! Just hope "the ending" is the ending! the first one ended like 4 or 5 time and just drug on...still good though
JayLemle
JayLemle - 9/4/2024, 5:35 PM
@narrow290 - DUDE! You are spot-on. I REALLY enjoyed the first movie, but I was damn-near cooked the last 30 mins. I went back to see it again in IMAX, and I was in it for that bad-ass car chase sequence. I left after that, LOL.
narrow290
narrow290 - 9/5/2024, 9:56 AM
@JayLemle - YES!! That might've been my favorite car chase ever
Usernametaken
Usernametaken - 9/4/2024, 5:24 PM
Just saw the first movie again yesterday.
Honestly, it would have benefited from better editing, some scenes could be paced faster and some useless dialogues could have been trimmed ("I am vengeance" for example"). Also, remove Nirvana.

Could have been a much better film.
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 9/4/2024, 5:38 PM
@Usernametaken - STFU 🤣 damn couch potato directors
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 9/4/2024, 6:33 PM
@Usernametaken - The one thing I’d change is have Bruce become the symbol of hope instead of Batman. Have the ending be Bruce giving a press conference, cleaned up and in a suit, giving a speech about saving Gotham. So that the movie is kind of about Batman becoming Bruce, if that makes sense.

I never really saw Batman as a symbol of hope. More of a perpetual means to an end.
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 9/4/2024, 6:49 PM
@SheepishOne - agree completely, Batman seeing he can help in a different way as Bruce. Batman is what criminals fear, the Wayne foundation gives hope. Never understood why they always make Bruce act like an idiot. Always preferred him being the suave business man helping charities. I was raised on BTAS and yeah he acted a little clumsy in that but otherwise was respected.
Usernametaken
Usernametaken - 9/4/2024, 7:06 PM
@SheepishOne - Agreed, it would have shown personal growth for the character.

I guess (and I sincerely hope) they are planning to show growth to the character for the sequel.

In the first movie Bruce is a reclusive and useless moody teenager, and as Batman he fights like a tank with a death wish.

In the sequel Bruce Wayne should be a more mature, distinguished, philantropist. And Batman should be a smarter, stealthier fighter.

Lots to improve, but still, it was a very good movie and nailed a lot of things. The artistic direction, the characters, the actors, the costumes, props etc were all very impressive.
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 9/4/2024, 7:29 PM
@NonPlayerC - Absolutely. I’m fine with the grungy brooding Bruce if he eventually becomes Bruce Wayne. Hoping they go there in the sequel, but we’ll see. Bruce can present as a bit of an idiot to the right people for the right reasons, but he should usually (or eventually) have the respect of Gotham as a whole. There can be individuals who don’t respect or like him, but his image shouldn’t be a rich kid recluse.
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 9/4/2024, 8:15 PM
@Usernametaken - I really appreciate you being honest about having benefited from better editing and faster pacing.
SheepishOne
SheepishOne - 9/4/2024, 8:31 PM
@Usernametaken - Completely agree. And if nothing else, like you said, there’s plenty to evolve and progress with the sequels. It’s always better to leave the people wanting more.

It’s sort of the blessing and curse with these movies that are kicking off a planned trilogy. Leaving a lot on the table for sequels is exciting, but it takes some of the fullness and resolution out of the first film.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 9/5/2024, 12:19 AM
@SheepishOne - well stated mate.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 9/5/2024, 12:24 AM
@SheepishOne - they really have to go there in the sequel or it's a complete failure of characterization. You can start with moody sad Bruce but you have to build into real philanthropist Bruce for the sequel with a Batman who is a real detective. The clues were so amateur in the first film and Bats missed a ton. So be it in the first film, now let's see him more as master of his craft both as Bruce and Batman.
Forthas
Forthas - 9/4/2024, 5:26 PM
"What was important to me was to find a way to take these pop icons, these mythic characters that everybody knows, and translate it so that Gotham feels like a place in our world"

So he copied Christpher Nolan! There is no better proof that DC and Warner Brothers made and continue to make the biggest mistake in cinema history by not combining The Dark Knight Trilogy and Man of Steel to kick off their DC shared universe. If they had used Christopher Nolan's films as a blueprint tye would be the grteatest most epic superhero universe evr made. Now they have James Gunn ready to kick off the DC comedy film series exactly what audiences DON"T want.
Superspecialawesomeguy
Superspecialawesomeguy - 9/4/2024, 5:28 PM
They should save the Court of Owls for a third movie imo, I remember there being an easter egg in the first movie concerning Hush if I'm not mistaken.

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Also:

"We might push to the edge of fantastical, but we would never go into full fantastical. It's meant to feel quite grounded."

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bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/4/2024, 5:43 PM
@Superspecialawesomeguy - I think pushing into the fantastical works. Freeze fits that bill imo.

But yeah, seeing Hush would be great too. I'm kinda hoping for Freeze in 2, Court of Owls in 3 and a Hush subplot spread over both movies.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 9/5/2024, 12:25 AM
@Superspecialawesomeguy - Hush was already aped for Reeves' Riddler
hsanjose
hsanjose - 9/4/2024, 5:29 PM
In the first one, Reeves was supposed to give Batman the detective approach that has been sorely lacking in the cinema for a long time. Well, his "great detective", who is supposed to have the best training in all areas, couldn't tell the difference between "La" and "El" "rata alada" in Spanish... The Penguin had to explain it to him and Gordon!! That's on the level of "Martha".

This movie, like Joker, destroyed Batman's lore just because the directors want to win an Oscar. For example, presenting Bruce's father as corrupt in both movies, or suggesting it, when it is precisely Thomas who is the example for his son to follow, only demonstrates the left-wing snobbery that Hollywood preach today. And there are thousands of other examples. Warner has been destroying DC for a while. I had faith in Gunn, but after seeing who he chose to play Booster Gold, and what he did with a character as profound as Vigilante, I realize that we are going to live through another disappointment with DC in the cinema. It is not strange that Warner is in the worst moment of its market cap... 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/4/2024, 5:30 PM
Definitely seems like it could be Court of Owls and hope it is since stylistically they would fit in this version of Gotham and tone so well imo…

Also pushing it to the edge of fantastical is interesting because you could play up the whole “are they human or not” idea with the Talons since the substance that is used for their resurrection in the comics is based in some sort of science in that world which could lend well to the horror elements of this take akin to Michael Myers.

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If not then you could just have them be hired guns that the Court keeps around to do their dirty work.

Regardless , looking forward to it since I liked the first one a lot!!.
bcom
bcom - 9/4/2024, 5:33 PM
Given the tone of the world Reeves built in The Batman, he could almost do a straight-ish adaptation of The Court of Owls comic as the tone of it fits with Reeves' Gotham. Well, I think that anyway :-)
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 9/4/2024, 5:39 PM
Hopefully the next film has less rain LOL
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