TDKR: Uncovering Talia al Ghul

TDKR: Uncovering Talia al Ghul

This is the second installment to my article TDKR: The Miranda Tate Conspiracy. I'll try not to repeat myself here because some new things have some to light since I wrote that last article back in April.

Editorial Opinion
By canadianturd - Sep 13, 2011 12:09 AM EST
Filed Under: The Dark Knight Rises
Source: Facebook - DC Movies!

5. Pictures from The Dark Knight Rises show Marion Cotillard in her own costume on the same set as Batman, Catwoman and Bane. As much as it pains me to say, I am no fashionista. I know! I know! But this looks more like some sort of bad ass martial arts (which Talia is most proficient in) gi rather than the wardrobe of a board member at Wayne Enterprises.

I don't remember Rutger Hauer strutting around the office in his robe and slippies is all I'm saying.

Also, isn't she supposedly helping the "still-grieving Bruce Wayne resume his father’s philanthropic endeavors"? So what the hell is she doing hopping in and out of those Tumblers? Arriving to set in style?

Aside from the incriminating pictures that only prove my now multiple points further, lets look at back at Batman Begins and the character of Talia al Ghul.

In the comics, she is the daughter of Ra's al Ghul, the man who trained her in martial arts since birth. In Batman Begins, Ra's trained Bruce Wayne before becoming Batman.

- In the comics, Talia held many positions of authority in her father's organizations, which could only be beneficial when submitting a resume for a job at Wayne Enterprises. Even if she embellished just a little.

- In the comics, Talia is obedient to her father to a fault. After her encounters with Batman, it becomes hard for her to choose, although usually siding with her father in the end.

6. In Batman Begins, Ra's is the appropriate age to have an adult daughter and knows Batman's true identity for sometime before the League of Shadows attack on Gotham. Not to mention the fact that in the films novelization, Ra's writes to Talia during her stay in Switzerland, so she's pretty much caught up to speed by the time Batman's finished with Joker and Two-Face.

Now here's what really prompted me to write up this article.

7. We've known from the beginning we would be seeing flashbacks with the young Ra's al Ghul, played by Josh Pence. But today on IMDB, I noticed tiny actress, Joey King had been cast as 'Young Talia'.

Unless 'Young Talia' bites it for some reason during the flashbacks, I can't see them not introducing her as an adult. It just wouldn't make sense. The stories between she and Batman are too rich to ignore, especially when visiting the origins you know it's going to be kind of a big deal.

To all the naysayers, I want to give you a chance to admit this is plausible! That Christopher Nolan has been working toward an idea that starts and ends with the al Ghul family.

I can feel it in the cockles of my heart.
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95 - 9/13/2011, 5:49 PM
I really liked your previous article as well.
Miranda as Talia makes alot of sense.
And I like the idea, especially for this trilogy closer.
However, if Miranda is trying to help a grieving Wayne,
that would make her a love interest of sorts, no?
Whatever happens, the idea of Nolan balancing Bruce's...
Baby mamas is going to make for a very interesting film.
So, who's betting that Talia forgives him and he gets with her?
I am.
Who's betting it's Selina?
I don't know...
Two vigilantes aren't a couple to last.
canadianturd
canadianturd - 9/13/2011, 9:12 PM
@3D I think Batman will bang them both.

@yossarian you must be a master debater.

@NOLANITE yeah, I'm just trying to display the facts that I see. I'm not one for conspiracies, but I do believe this to be true.
HowardDuck1138
HowardDuck1138 - 9/13/2011, 9:30 PM
While I fully believe Talia will appear in this flick, IMDb is a very sketchy source of info. Like Wikipedia, anyone can edit it. Take everything with a grain of salt until you get official confirmation.
SCURVYDOG619
SCURVYDOG619 - 9/14/2011, 9:55 AM
Maybe she's Lady Shiva?
Organa1978
Organa1978 - 9/14/2011, 4:50 PM
Maybe she's Lady Shiva?

No way!
Caedus137
Caedus137 - 9/16/2011, 1:13 AM
I hope Marion Cotillard DOES end up being Talia Al Ghul... Having Josh Pence as a young Ra's kinda suggests it as a possibility, as you said. I bet when this new trilogy was announced however many years ago, none of us would have guessed it would revolve so much around Ra's and the League, instead of Joker, Riddler, Penguin etc...
Personally, I'm more intrigued about Bane's role in all this....
canadianturd
canadianturd - 9/16/2011, 12:10 PM
I bet Bane and "Miranda Tate" are linked somehow for sure!
MetropolisMarvel
MetropolisMarvel - 9/18/2011, 9:04 AM
I need to make babies with her.

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Avenger53
Avenger53 - 9/19/2011, 2:26 PM
Of course she's playing Talia al Ghul... every actor involved with the previous movies (Bale, Caine, Oldman & Freeman) have said in interviews that Nolan is "coming full circle on the the trilogy"... My guess is that the big reveal in TDKR will be that Talia and the League of Shadows were behind the Joker's rampage in TDK... remember the Joker said to Dent, "do I look like I have a plan? I'm just a dog chasing cars... I just... do." What if the League were really the one's behind the Joker's campaign of anarchy? Think about it... in Begins, Ras wanted to create a climate of fear in Gotham and "watch the city tear itself apart." It's more or less the same thing the Joker was trying to accomplish in TDK... and many critics of TDK wonder how in the hell the Joker was able to accomplish all the things he did (getting close enough to government officials, infiltrating a mob hideout, weapons, man power, etc...) Maybe Talia and the League were behind him the whole time... That would certainly seal all three movies together in a nice tight trilogy.
canadianturd
canadianturd - 9/20/2011, 7:40 AM
@Avenger53 I love those points and if I make a third article, I'll definitely include this and give you credit.

When it comes full circle! lol
BFGLOOM
BFGLOOM - 9/22/2011, 7:42 AM
Yes she's Talia.....and yes thats who Joey King is playing. Easy to see where Bane ties in.....You can see him in burned raggy clothes as a CHILD climbing out of a well in the TEASER TRAILER. Similar to the scene from Begins of a young Bruce falling down and having to be lifted out by alfred. Bane is a survivor of something, possibly done by the LOS and Ras takes him in, making him and young talia connected from then on. Bane will be the Military Leader of the LOS, the Srg at arms if you will. Talia is the Head.
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