WHO DOES BATMAN NEED?

WHO DOES BATMAN NEED?

Who does Batman need in the next batman? Not who you want. What many people may not realize is the next Batman is him against Gotham. The next batman will need villians that fit into the crowd, the people. Batman also needs a hero to take his mantel, and who will that be?

Editorial Opinion
By XxBLACKMASKxX - Sep 04, 2010 02:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Batman



VILLIANS:
To be honest the next batman movie will deal alot with him being hunted down. My guess is Black Mask will be the new mob leader. A lot of people say HUSH would need an origin story, but I think a few flash backs are fine.
Hush would be a hired assassin. The Riddler in my mind should be a cop, that goes mad of course. I picture him becoming obssessed with Batman. Say he goes crazy enough to secretly give info to the mob, while also stategicly planning riddles and attacks for Batman to face.
I doubt a female role is needed or the role of bane, they would all be cool to see no doubt. But the big question here is are they nessecary?

BATMAN'S ROLE:
I dont know what will happen in the end, but here what I have thought of...

1. Batman dies

2. someone takes his mantel

3. he does this forever

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antonio
antonio - 9/4/2010, 2:51 PM
there hasnt been any real buld up 4 hush,so they cant do him.
jbak368
jbak368 - 9/4/2010, 3:04 PM
I think that who is necessary is a very good question. I think, personally, that Selina Kyle is most necessary, because she can fill the void left by Rachel's death in Bruce's heart, and can truly understand him in ways Rachel never could. Rachel couldn't deal with Bruce's "mask," but Selina Kyle has a mask of her own, and I feel like this would help resolve many of the themes that run throughout both previous films. I also think The Riddler is a good choice, because he's well-known but also because he challenges Batman's mind on a level we haven't seen yet, finally allowing for some good World's Greatest Detective action. TDK had the finger-print from the bullet scene, but we need to see why Batman has the greatest mind on Earth. Obviously there should be a physical challenge too, but Catwoman or various henchmen or smaller level villains and the police could all provide this. We need to see Bruce's mind, body, and emotions all being assaulted, and Nolan knows that this level of emotional realism is necessary in order to truly connect with audiences. It's why TDK, in spite of it's flaws, is so beloved.

Also, Batman does this forever. It's been established in the other films, and Harvey Dent even says it exactly in TDK, that Bruce does not want to be Batman forever, but in this film he should finally learn that there will be no end to his War on Crime. The previous two films have been a young, still developing Batman. In this one we need to see him finally starting to become everything Batman is at his peak.
cashsteele
cashsteele - 9/4/2010, 3:25 PM
Agreed, i think the Gotham PD vs Batman will play big in the first half of the movie and since everything(rumors & speculation) seems to be pointing toward the riddler i guess a Zodiac killer or Manic style Criminologist would make sense... The Mob and corruption is constant them in each movie so Black Mask would be logical and Talia Al ghul or Catwoman could play a role, Catwoman make sense with the understanding the mask being a great way to relate to a character and she could be challenging to Batman as a physical presence, Talia would be good because of the revenge factor and it would challenge Batman to understand the consequences of his role as Batman... Definitely think ending should be ambiguous to either usher in the JLA or leave time for a reboot after all it would be tough to reboot the possible most successful comic book trilogy of all time....
joekerr93
joekerr93 - 9/4/2010, 3:27 PM
hmmm, i think there needs to be someone to give batman/bruce hope, either selina, talia, or dick

the riddler should not be a side villain, the audience needs to finally see what he is capable of

and batman should die at the end of nolan's series
Denn1s
Denn1s - 9/4/2010, 4:24 PM
bats dying would be super-awesome but i don't think it will happen.if he does chaos will erupt again and his work will be all for nothing.he has to accept the fact that he will do it forever
antonio
antonio - 9/4/2010, 5:05 PM
@denn1s,couldnt have said it better
ManOfIron
ManOfIron - 9/4/2010, 6:13 PM
joekerr93: batman love all 3 of those things.... giggidy!
jbak368
jbak368 - 9/4/2010, 8:01 PM
I agree that Bruce needs some hope at the end, but I think I'd save Dick for a second trilogy with a different director, as Nolan has stated his distaste for Robin. I know a lot of people think Robin can't work in a movie, but I don't think that's true. He's very important to Batman's development as a character, and there are pretty simple changes that could be made that would make it work.
patriautism
patriautism - 9/4/2010, 8:18 PM
I think he should die. It could be EPIC
RABB1T
RABB1T - 9/4/2010, 8:23 PM
Damn you really read my mind on this one. It will be interesting to have Black Mask, but Nolan is full of suprises. Knowing him... the movie will turn out pretty awesome haha
jbak368
jbak368 - 9/4/2010, 9:46 PM
He shouldn't die, because he's only just starting to become Batman, really. He can't die immediately after reaching the height of his abilities. It should be the clear end of a trilogy, but there should be another trilogy following it in which Batman is completely capable and established.
blah
blah - 9/5/2010, 5:18 AM
how about yes to the riddler! harley quinne, and ras al guls daughter would be really nice to see in the film.
jbak368
jbak368 - 9/5/2010, 9:43 AM
Nolan's trilogy of films should really be called the Batman Begins trilogy, because that's really what it's about, and why he shouldn't die at the end. This story is still about him becoming Batman.
StephenJ
StephenJ - 9/5/2010, 11:49 AM
@ Brazilian and Sooner
I agree with you guys. Batman shouldn't die in any Batman movie unless possibly a Batman Beyond Movie where Bruce dies of old age. ONLY POSSIBILITY!

If he dies, what happens to Gotham? Truly the person who kills him is not going to want to just stop what he was doing and give up now that Batman is dead. There will be nothing but fear and chaos going on in Gotham. No way should Batman die in these movies AT ALL!
Talia should come in as well as Black Mask. I would really love to see the Riddler done right also.
AND at least introduce Dick Grayson. mention the circus do something! I understand that Nolan doesn't like Robin, but Dick Grayson/Robin is not a bad character and I would really like to see Nightwing either on Tv with his own series like Smallville or in movies
joekerr93
joekerr93 - 9/5/2010, 12:08 PM
batman 3 will END nolan's batman series. so after he is done, no matter what he decides to do, the series will be over.

so we will either see another reboot (sigh) or they will just start handing batman over to great directors to tell their stories (assume we know who he is, and then just keep on it like the comic books do)

nolan will not allow anyone to share his batman, so don't expect batman 4-10 to be sequels to his series. just because wb wants more sequels doesn't mean they will continue from nolan's batman.

i bet it will be something like, okay nolan's finished, snyder get yo ass in here and make some movies, okay your'e done, fincher (i would like to see david fincher do some) get yo ass in here and make some movies, etc.
and they will just keep it going, assuming that nolan's series never even happened
joekerr93
joekerr93 - 9/5/2010, 12:09 PM
*and assume
XxBLACKMASKxX
XxBLACKMASKxX - 9/5/2010, 1:23 PM
@joekerr93
To be honest Riddler should be a primary villian, just not the villian that physically tries to kill him
Batmanknight
Batmanknight - 9/5/2010, 1:47 PM
I like the Hush idea. It would be cool for the last villain to be one of Bruce's oldest friends. And I like the Riddler idea it would really work and be cool to see.

I don't think Batman should die or someone else should take over his mantle. It wouldn't be cool to see such an iconic character die, and hopefully after Nolan leaves someone will take it over from where it left off.

By the way I recently wrote a Batman story that is similar to what you wrote about. I would love to hear what you think. So if you have time click the picture below to read my story.
Orphix
Orphix - 9/5/2010, 3:30 PM
I've always been a big fan of Batman dying at the end of Nolans trilogy and have convinced myself for some time that that is a dead cert of what will happen.

Kind of like the hero making the ultimate sacrifice (a bit like his dad) so that Gotham can become what it can truly be. With the ordinary people taking over and refusing to let the streets be in the hands of the underworld. And Batman becoming a symbol forever.

However, recently, I have thought that Bruce Wayne becoming 'trapped' into being Batman forever (not the film!!) is kind of tragic and would be a good ending. Always there to save and protect Gotham. With Batman realising that fighting crime is a war that never ceases and will carry on indefinitely. Thats a pretty bleak ending - more dark than him dying.
flames809
flames809 - 9/5/2010, 3:38 PM
he will do this for ever it was said in the dark knight. and i bet he will have a girl in the movie a reporter Vicky or catwomen
Codeseven
Codeseven - 9/5/2010, 4:04 PM
batman dying would not be "epic" as some people like to call it. killing batman may end the trilogy with a bang but if he died then everything that he has fought for so far would be in vein because more villains will just pop up after his death.
tricklove187
tricklove187 - 9/5/2010, 5:10 PM
After Nolan is done with Batman 3, WB shouldn't "reboot" the franchise. THe mainstream audience doesn't need to be told over and over again Batman's origin.

Instead, how about live action films that are based on mini-series, much like the animated movies are doing? This way, casting can be done according to the story line and there wouldn't need to be contracts for actors.

One actor could be cast as Batman for a live action Dark Knight Returns and a different one for Batman Beyond (just examples).

I think these movies would be more successful then starting over again ala Spider-man and Fantastic Four and Hulk and.........(Marvel).

funny animated gif
XxBLACKMASKxX
XxBLACKMASKxX - 9/5/2010, 5:11 PM
@brazilianbatman
Hey
I really dont want Batman to die.
I just put out rumors and possibilities ive heard.
This article just represents a story not many people have thought of.
XxBLACKMASKxX
XxBLACKMASKxX - 9/5/2010, 5:20 PM
@batmanknight
Intresting take.
The only thing I didnt like is the amount of villians.
Other than that I really enjoyed it
NICE JOB!!!!
tricklove187
tricklove187 - 9/5/2010, 5:25 PM
What about Deathstroke as hired muscle. They don't have to do a drawn out origin or touch on the Titans. Batman needs someone he can actually fight with. The Dark Knight didn't have much as far as common skilled enemies. Dogs and Joker with a knife in his boot?? Give me a break. Batman Begins had him taking down ninja's.
tricklove187
tricklove187 - 9/5/2010, 9:22 PM
brazilianbatman@ reread my posts man, i don't want reboots either for batman but i also don't want them to make 4, 5, 6, etc movies that are suppose to be sequels to each other.

So, to get multiple batman movies, I suggest using different story lines from the comics that have a beginning and an ending. This way, we don't have to sit through 1 1/2 hours of origin story before we get to the meat and potatoes.

For example, "Dark Night, Dark City" is an awesome Riddler story from the comics. This could be turned into a movie casting whomever the director wants.

Then there could be a "Death in the Family" movie with totally different actors. By not making the movies connect through the same actors, you are free to tell better stories.

If we continue to request the same actors over multiple productions, we will end up with more X-men 3's and Batman and Robin's.

Does anyone see my point or am I just rambling now?
Orphix
Orphix - 9/6/2010, 2:06 AM
If anyone takes Nolan's universe and tries to continue it it will be awful, trust me! I certainly don't wanna see any 'faux nolan' batman films.

Why ruin a (possibly) amazing trilogy??????

Just let Nolan end it his way. Let him COMPLETE the story!
TesDaGreat
TesDaGreat - 9/6/2010, 10:43 AM
superbatspiderman
superbatspiderman - 9/6/2010, 5:25 PM
Seriously you want Batman to die that is the worst idea ever since WB hiring Joel Schumacher as the director of Batman Forever. Batman can't die in a movie ever it would be as the Joker says "Chaos".
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 9/7/2010, 9:33 AM
well...

1. Batman dies.

2. Someone takes his mantle.

3. He does this forever.

Aren't those the only 3 possible outcomes?? lol

anyway, good article. I think Black Mask needs to definately take over the mob. The story is set up perfect for him, and they wouldn't need to change a single thing about him.
XxBatmanCrusaderxX
XxBatmanCrusaderxX - 9/7/2010, 2:18 PM
Nice Article!!!
I enjoyed your idea.
To be honest its what I would want as well!
NICE JOB!!!
trytan
trytan - 9/8/2010, 11:22 AM
I agree that we wouldn't need a backstory for Hush. All they need to do is have him at Rachel's funeral and show 1 flash back of he, Bruce, and Rachel as kids to show that they were childhood friends. Then explain why he snapped at the end. As for a female role, catwoman would be ok but to finish the story I think that Talia would be the best way to end the story. Shew knows Bruce is Batman, was trained by her father and blames Bruce for her fathers death, so she acts like she loves him and goes through it as his girlfriend before betraying him at the end. I would say she kills him but I'd rather see closure than could be picked up later (say for a Nolan Justice League) such as Bane breaking Batman's back.
grog
grog - 9/9/2010, 10:23 AM
regardless of how we feel, When Nolan's trilogy comes to and end. WB. is going to have more Batman movies made. Whether it is a continuation of the current story line or a re-boot. There is just far too much money for them, to just stop making Batman movies. Now since we are going to get more movies, why not make them in a world so Batman can be a part of the JLA. He will miss the first movie but he can always show up for the 2nd one.
xBlaze96x
xBlaze96x - 9/9/2010, 2:40 PM
i say that he will probably do it forever but he might die cause he is not gonna be in the justice league movie so yea
tset22
tset22 - 9/9/2010, 10:11 PM
this is a dumb article hush was bruce's friend not to mention he killed his parents how does that tie into the story plus of course one of those scenrios wat else is there and genius name one batman movie with out a female lead
Wolf1990
Wolf1990 - 9/10/2010, 7:45 AM
even though we pretty much have no say in the ending. i think they should end the movie with him deciding to stay batman and introduce dick grayson at the end.
Wolf1990
Wolf1990 - 9/10/2010, 11:04 AM
even though we pretty much have no say in the ending. i think they should end the movie with him deciding to stay batman and introduce dick grayson at the end.
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