Did The New BATMAN V SUPERMAN Trailer Reveal Too Much?

Did The New BATMAN V SUPERMAN Trailer Reveal Too Much?

Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice has a new, epic trailer which many fans love, but many others believe it has revealed too much of the film spoiling the conflict between Batman and Superman. Take the jump to read my thoughts on this matter!

Editorial Opinion
By yonny616 - Dec 04, 2015 08:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Batman vs. Superman
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is one of the most, if not the most, anticipated films of 2016 for many, but the latest trailer which debuted on Jimmy Kimmel Live this past Wednesday has caused some controversy and divided fans. While many fans anticipating the film did enjoy the new trailer, some fans believe it revealed too much about the film. I respectfully disagree, I believe it has only showed us what we knew and expected from this film. We knew Batman and Superman aren't exactly fond of each other due to the past two trailers, we knew Lex Luthor was going to do something with Zod's body, and we expected these two heroes to team up at the end to take down what ever big threat the synopsis alludes to. The only thing this trailer truly reveals is Doomsday... and the trinity standing together, but honestly that is a money shot which would have been in a trailer or TV spot anyway. 

So where is all this conterversy of the film being spoiled coming from? Well, it seems like it's the reveal of Doomsday. To many the reveal of Doomsday means we've been spoiled the versus in Batman v Superman because now we know these heroes team up to take down Doomsday, but this really isn't the case. First off, this was never a straight up versus film, Snyder himself has said that's the reason why he used "V" and not "VS" in the films title, and sure, okay, we know the heroes put aside their differences to take down the bigger threat of Doomsday, but this doesn't spoil us how they actually resolve thier issues with each other. Saying this ruins Batman v Superman would be like saying Captain America: Civil War is ruined because one of the future trailers will inevitably reveal the "new and nefarious villain" which the heroes will likely team up to take down.  

Ultimately people believe what they want, and will complain about it as well, but revealing something that has already been teased at in previous trailers and has been mentioned in the synopsis is not a "spoiler". This new trailer for Batman v Superman has only answered one question, two if you want to get technical, and that is that Doomsday is the big threat which brings these heroes together. 

So what do you guys and gals think? Did the new trailer for Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice reveal too much of the film? Leave your thoughts in the comment section below! 

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Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 12/4/2015, 12:21 PM
Thank YOU!!! The trailer did not show too much. We learned nothing we didn't already know from the synopsis. Aside from doomsday but he's been rumored for months. There is still plenty of surprises in the movie i'm sure. And to the people who are saying that this trailer is as bad as the trailers for TASM 2, especially considering that showed Gwens death scene? No...just no.

blackandyellow
blackandyellow - 12/4/2015, 12:22 PM
Thumbed but not read. You're welcome.
DrKinsolving
DrKinsolving - 12/4/2015, 12:26 PM
Thumbed.

The "Dawn of Justice" in the title was a major spoiler too, haha....

Can't wait for the DCEU

Amazing trailer.



Reasonnnn
Reasonnnn - 12/4/2015, 12:26 PM
Well, casual audiences will probably think it showed too much. Nerds like us on this site and other sites/blogs don't care so much, but we're in the minority.
Ghostpointzero
Ghostpointzero - 12/4/2015, 12:39 PM
What it showed us:

•Batman and Superman working together.
•One of Doomsdays forms.
•Parademons (possibly).

What it didn’t show us:

•How Batman and Superman came to work together.
•When, or if the characters learn each other’s secret identities.
•How Lex Luthor loses his hair.
•How kryptonite comes into play.
•How many, if any, members of the Bat Family, besides Alfred, will be in the movie.
•How exactly Doomsday is created and how he is defeated.
•How Wonder Woman gets involved and why Batman or Superman don’t know her already.
•What the exact purpose of the dream sequence is and who’s dream sequence it is.
•Doomsdays evolving form.
•Any footage Aquaman, Cyborg, and the Flash.

Pedrito
Pedrito - 12/4/2015, 12:58 PM
I'm loving these lists of "things not pooled"
They contain some of the most inane events and little factoids.

The trailer was a mini movie and it was damn lame. Let's move on.
yonny616
yonny616 - 12/4/2015, 12:59 PM
@Reasonnnn I don't think casual audiences care, and they might even be more confused since, like you said, they don't hang around websites like these.
Reasonnnn
Reasonnnn - 12/4/2015, 1:21 PM
@yonny616 Yeah, they're going to be confused af when they see that trinity shot only for the title to show Batman v Superman.
Forthas
Forthas - 12/4/2015, 2:57 PM
Not only did it reveal too much it set up a huge number of potential plot holes or leaps in logic (which may or may not be resolved in the movie) not least of which are...

1. This movie shows Batman picking a fight with Superman apparently because he participated in leveling a city. Then the trailer shows that later in the movie Batman will be participating in what appears to be the leveling of ANOTHER city. Hopefully they evacuated everyone this time.

2. Batman has a “Bat plane” as shown in the trailer. Where exactly was he when Zod was destroying Metropolis especially given that he is “across the bay?" Heck! Even the US military at least tried and arguably were a big part in ending the siege in Man of Steel.

3. If Batman is branding people with a hot Batarang as the news article in the trailer suggests, then he has become cruel and once again Snyder has destroyed the aura of heroism in one of the great heroes of comic books.

4. From a practical standpoint, I am curious to know the logic in how Lex Luthor who apparently “created” Doomeday (or whoever it is) thinks he can control it. This plan seems seems self-defeating long term. It would make more sense for the underpinnings of the film if he discovered it and accidentally brought it to life.

5. I don’t understand Batman’s “Minority Report” logic. He wants to take down Superman on the assumption that he will do something bad someday. In the trailer he seesm aware that Superman saves people but is just not satisfied. While I am still unclear if Batman goes after Superman (likely given the armored suit) or Superman goes after Batman (possible given his view of Batman as a vigilante), the heroes are supposed to be smart and in both cases their motives sound egotistical.

6. Batman fought Superman with armor. The trailer suggests that Batman (with Superman and Wonder Woman) will be fighting "Doomsday" without any armor (so I guess that Batman and Superman would have made up by then and we are supposed to believe that this unarmored Batman can make a contribution to the fight.

7. The exposition of Doomsday has de-emphasized the supposed spectacle of the Batman Superman fight. With Doomsday now apparently confirmed, it seems the fight between Batman and Superman is somewhat undermined in anticipation of the fight with Doomsday in the same movie.


TheGoat
TheGoat - 12/4/2015, 4:24 PM
Gave away the whole plot. The enjoyment in the ride to the end is fun, but this gave away a lot of secrets including Wonder Woman not showing up in costume until this end battle, the Lex creation of Doomsday, horrible cave troll Doomsday as the main villain (was rumored for a long time), and minor Batman issues with superman, using a rifle, etc.

Plot is simple, Batman and Supes don't see eye to eye due to death and mistrust in their differences, minor fight, nightmare scene, start to trust, bad guy comes to lay waste, become bestest buddies, wonder woman shows up, fight, win, movie over.
Desr0w
Desr0w - 12/4/2015, 4:33 PM
LOL people trying so damn hard to convince other people why they shouldn't see the movie it's beyond pathetic.


All those "reveals" are pure speculation. But don't mind me guys, keep trolling.
ThePhantazm
ThePhantazm - 12/4/2015, 4:36 PM
It was edited in a way that spells out the whole movie in chronological order. If it had the same scenes with less context it wouldn't have been that bad, but the context was so obvious each time that I feel like it was a 3 minute summary of the whole movie.

For example in previous trailers they showed Zod but there was no real context, now the context is obvious. We cut from an image of Zods corpse to Mercy Graves walking with what is obviously Zods body to Lex Luthor Monologue, to mad science experiment to Doomsday. That sequence of shots makes it painfully obvious what is going on.
CletusKasady89
CletusKasady89 - 12/4/2015, 4:46 PM
They absolutely did. The first trailer was so great because it seemed like there was going to be some tension and battles with bad intentions behind it. It really look as though it was going to be BvS. While we heard Doomsday might be what brings them together, it's just too early to show that and now we've even seen them somewhat joking together in some form. So now we know in some way that they'll most likely be on the up and up by the end which is somewhat expected but it just doesn't seem as intriguing now and it's too early for that.
Imperiects
Imperiects - 12/4/2015, 5:00 PM
I am dumber for reading some of these posts.

1. The first trailer put Bruce in Metropolis when Superman was fighting Zod. That's his reason for assuming Superman could just as easily burn everything as opposed to him being a hero. In Man of Steel there was no thought of protecting civilians.

2. If you don't know who/what Doomsday is...do not comment.

3. In Dark Knight Returns Batman didn't give a shit about anything. He doesn't play the old games.

4. This is the beginning of the JLA.. SPOILER Batman and Superman work together.

Bitch. Moan. Complain. Take it to a different thread.
Marc65
Marc65 - 12/4/2015, 5:01 PM
I had problems with the tone. The first part of the trailers looked very emotional and gritty but the last part of the trailer went totally opposite and a bit campy. I think it was a major let down for those hoping for something more mature. It also looked too heavily CGI.
I'm not knocking levity because DC films could use some but the contrast in tone for this trailer was just off; it deflated all the angst that was building before.
Yes, everyone knows whats going to happen in the film and that's why you save it for the film. We want to see Sups and Bats fighting side by side, in the movie. We want to see them joined by Wonder Woman, in the movie. We also want to see the surprise big bad, in the movie (it's no surprise if he in the trailer months before the movie).
Trailers are about marketing, and marketing is about anticipation. They're falling into the Age of Ultron trap of showing new footage every week until there are no new major scenes worth seeing when the movie actually opens.
dnno1
dnno1 - 12/4/2015, 5:06 PM
"Not only did it reveal too much it set up a huge number of potential plot holes or leaps in logic (which may or may not be resolved in the movie) not least of which are...

"1. This movie shows Batman picking a fight with Superman apparently because he participated in leveling a city. Then the trailer shows that later in the movie Batman will be participating in what appears to be the leveling of ANOTHER city. Hopefully they evacuated everyone this time."

@Forthas, that is left to be seen, but how does this reveal too much?

"2. Batman has a “Bat plane” as shown in the trailer. Where exactly was he when Zod was destroying Metropolis especially given that he is “across the bay?" Heck! Even the US military at least tried and arguably were a big part in ending the siege in Man of Steel."

That's nice, but if you watch the previous trailer, you would have noticed that Bruce Wayne was in Mertopolis at the time of the Black Zero event. He was busy evacuating people and probably didn't have time to go back to the batcave to dress up as Batman and get his jet.

"3. If Batman is branding people with a hot Batarang as the news article in the trailer suggests, then he has become cruel and once again Snyder has destroyed the aura of heroism in one of the great heroes of comic books."

Frank Miller's Batman from "The Dark Knight", was that cruel.

"4. From a practical standpoint, I am curious to know the logic in how Lex Luthor who apparently “created” Doomeday (or whoever it is) thinks he can control it. This plan seems seems self-defeating long term. It would make more sense for the underpinnings of the film if he discovered it and accidentally brought it to life."

That's why you probably want to watch the movie. See, they didn't give away too much.

"5. I don’t understand Batman’s “Minority Report” logic. He wants to take down Superman on the assumption that he will do something bad someday. In the trailer he seesm aware that Superman saves people but is just not satisfied. While I am still unclear if Batman goes after Superman (likely given the armored suit) or Superman goes after Batman (possible given his view of Batman as a vigilante), the heroes are supposed to be smart and in both cases their motives sound egotistical."

I am sure that Batman has this disposition twards Superman because she saw what he could do (as evidenced in the previous trailer). There is a lack of trust in Superman, because he really does not know the man nor his true intentions (at this point in time, very few people actually do). Once again, I will have to refer you to my previous comment. If you are qustioning why certain things are happening in the trailer(s), then it must mean that you should see the film to find out why and that the film producers more than likely did not give away all the goods based on that rationale.

"6. Batman fought Superman with armor. The trailer suggests that Batman (with Superman and Wonder Woman) will be fighting "Doomsday" without any armor (so I guess that Batman and Superman would have made up by then and we are supposed to believe that this unarmored Batman can make a contribution to the fight."

Zack Snider said in an interview that Batman was wearing the armor not only to give him a chance against Superman, but to protect him from somehting else (that Snider didn't want to explain). We have to seel the movie to find out what it is.

"7. The exposition of Doomsday has de-emphasized the supposed spectacle of the Batman Superman fight. With Doomsday now apparently confirmed, it seems the fight between Batman and Superman is somewhat undermined in anticipation of the fight with Doomsday in the same movie."

If you are trying to imply that DC's Trinity vs. Doomsday is a better fight then that would probably inspire more fans to go watch the film. If that is not the case, then the top of the card fight will still be something that people will want to see. I don't get your logic here.
528491
528491 - 12/4/2015, 5:27 PM
Personally I felt the trailer did reveal a bit too much.

However its not so much about *what* it showed but rather *how* it showed it.

For instance it would be one thing to show us shots of Doomsday etc out of context in an action montage (lets face it, we had all worked out he was in the movie long ago) but its a completely different thing for the trailer to seemingly play through the movie in summary, act-by-act, showing us exactly the context that he is created and appears in.

If anything though id just chalk my irritation down to lazy and unimaginative trailer composition and editing than anything else.
kalelhawj
kalelhawj - 12/4/2015, 5:40 PM
Seriously... people will complain regardless because this is a DC movie... trying to convince folks not to watch the movie now because their small minds cannot handle the awesomeness of this movie is so trolling. The trailer have only shown us what the movie synopsis has already stated. It amaze me when Marvel show basically the entire fight between Hulk and Iron Man and they get a pass. DC barely show anything and they think it's the end and they already know the entire movie... LMAO...
Emjeed
Emjeed - 12/4/2015, 5:42 PM
I bookmarked this page. So I can come back on March 26th with a well informed response
ThePhantazm
ThePhantazm - 12/4/2015, 5:42 PM
@dnno1

I only want to address what you said about Frank Miller's Batman. This is a problem I have always had with "The Dark Knight Returns." It is not a terrible story in it's own right but it is NOT batman! It is weird Frank Miller fan fiction. I've always despised how celebrated that comic is because it is supposedly the most influential batman comic ever but it is completely at odds with pretty much every other incarnation of the character.

I know it is sacrilegious to say but I don't think "The Dark Knight Returns" is that great. I really don't like when writers use established characters as a soap box for their own cooky social commentary and that was pretty much all that book was.

But of course Snyder and Miller are basically best friends so it was always inevitable that he would go this route, but DC really shouldn't be basing their Cinematic Universe batman on an else-world version of the character.
sups92
sups92 - 12/4/2015, 6:08 PM
I think it revealed too much, I'm going to take the words of someone on the internet, "I liked the Batman V Superman part , but I didn't like the Dawn of Justice part."
NeoBaggins
NeoBaggins - 12/4/2015, 6:18 PM
When it isn't a troll, its typically people who think they know everything that comes to these conclusions. At the end of the day, its basically a personal interpretation of the material that will lead them to believe too much was shown. People treat each STAR WARS TV Spot like its the plague, but they haven't revealed one single visual or line of dialogue that gives away the film. And yet, people say they're showing too much. That's because they think they can piece together the movie from the limited content.

A more imaginative person will have many unanswered questions. If the trailer revealed the movie, there wouldn't be a speculation thread about those winged creatures. The trailer would have made it clear what they were. Why they were there. And why they seem to be ignoring Batman if evil.

I'd be treated like an asshole if I said the Civil War trailer gave away the whole movie. Cap is aiding a fugitive and he takes Bucky's side which puts him at odds with Stark. Two teams are formed, they fight, then make up.

Steelers4190
Steelers4190 - 12/4/2015, 6:44 PM
[frick]ing ridiculous bitching lol. People just WANT to complain about the DCEU
528491
528491 - 12/4/2015, 7:01 PM
@KryptonianBorn - I would have to disagree with the comparison there, since here we are not necessarily talking about the main villain (i.e. Lex Luthor) but rather a third act reveal, and in that instance i think the Marvel trailers to date have been pretty good at keeping their major third act reveals under wraps - for example that Alexander Pierce was a villain in Winter Solider or (for better or worse) that The Mandarin was not the true villain of Iron Man 3 but rather Aldrich Killian.
Darktower
Darktower - 12/4/2015, 7:01 PM
finally, somebody read my comments in all those BvS article!! lol

Grt Article!
Marc65
Marc65 - 12/4/2015, 7:03 PM
Age of Ultron was a total failure in marketing because it showed way too much footage. There was a new scene released almost every week months and months before the films opening. Now Snyder and Co. are doing the exact same thing. The first trailer was epic; they didn't need to do much more till opening week. Now we're still months away and they already played all their trump cards.
How badly are you anticipating the next trailer?.....Exactly.

For Civil War, Marvel had everyone waiting months for a first trailer, so when it came, of course it was gonna go viral. If they're smart, they won't have another til at least a few weeks before opening. Glancing shots of Ant-man, Vison, Crossbones and Zemo. Maybe just a reference to Spiderman. You want people to see movies, not the trailers.
Marc65
Marc65 - 12/4/2015, 7:07 PM
I think WB believes having a lot of Jesse as Lex appearing in the trailer is great marketing,....it's not.
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