CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD Ticket Pre-Sales Ahead Of THE MARVELS But Behind ANT-MAN 3

CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD Ticket Pre-Sales Ahead Of THE MARVELS But Behind ANT-MAN 3

Tickets for Captain America: Brave New World went on sale this past Friday, and according to one analyst's figures, pre-sales have been a little disappointing so far...

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By MarkCassidy - Jan 20, 2025 09:01 AM EST

Tickets for Marvel Studios' Captain America: Brave New World went on sale on Friday, and we have an update on how pre-sales have been doing over the weekend.

According to box office analyst Luiz Fernando, ticket sales are 1.4x better than The Marvels and Warner Bros.' recent Joker sequel, and are about on par with Eternals - but "nowhere near" Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, which opened on the same weekend in 2023.

Considering Ant-Man 3 underperformed and The Marvels and Folie à Deux were noted flops, this doesn't seem like the best start. That said, we are only talking about a few days of pre-sales here, and the movie is still on track for a solid enough $86 million - $95 million debut over the 3-day Valentine's Day/President's Day weekend.

Anticipation for Sam Wilson's (Anthony Mackie) big-screen debut as the Sentinel of Liberty does seem to have been somewhat muted, which can probably be attributed to a number of factors, including mixed-negative test-screening reports and underwhelming plot leak details.

Plus, we can't ignore the fact that - for whatever reason - a lot of fans simply haven't embraced Wilson taking up the Captain America mantle from Steve Rogers (Chris Evans).

After meeting with newly elected U.S. President Thaddeus Ross, played by Harrison Ford in his Marvel Cinematic Universe debut, Sam finds himself in the middle of an international incident. He must discover the reason behind a nefarious global plot before the true mastermind has the entire world seeing red.

Captain America: Brave New World stars Anthony Mackie, Danny Ramirez, Shira Haas, Xosha Roquemore, Carl Lumbly, with Giancarlo Esposito, Liv Tyler, Tim Blake Nelson, and Harrison Ford. The film is directed by Julius Onah and produced by Kevin Feige and Nate Moore. Louis D’Esposito and Charles Newirth serve as executive producers.

"It made more sense for it to be more of a grounded espionage action movie as opposed to aliens and airplanes coming through portals and sh*t," Mackie said in a recent interview. "Even though I've been in so many of them and have seen it all now, the opportunity for Sam to really establish himself as a true action star and Avenger comes with this movie."

"This movie is a clear reset," he added. "It really re-establishes the idea of what this universe is and what this universe is going to be. I think with these movies, you're getting a clear, new branding of what Marvel is headed towards the same way they did with Captain America: The Winter Soldier."

Marvel Studios’ Captain America: Brave New World opens in U.S. theaters on February 14, 2025.

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AnEye
AnEye - 1/20/2025, 9:12 AM
That's not good....
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/20/2025, 12:34 PM
@AnEye - Depends, I'd argue it says little as a film that starts lower if it turns out to be good can make WAY more than a film whose presales start high then ticket sales drop off a cliff on release. There is a fair amount IRL going on at the moment that could impact how much awareness and rush to the ticket office there would be in specific regard to domestic too.

I mean sure, everyone has reason to be nervous if presales start a tad meh but on it's own isn't THAT indicative as to where the final BO total will end (in either direction).
ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 1/20/2025, 9:16 AM
Just hope it's a good movie. The amount of reshoots and recent quality dip is a valid concern. Hope they pull through and make something good
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 1/20/2025, 1:39 PM
@ItsNotForMeWahh -

They won't.
OptimusCrime
OptimusCrime - 1/20/2025, 9:20 AM
Oh shit, i did not exprct that.
mountainman
mountainman - 1/20/2025, 9:20 AM
Those are not good benchmark. If this movie makes Ant Man 3 money, it’ll be a huge loss for the studio. They had better hope the audience sentiment around this one is good and it gets good word of mouth and legs. This is a much bigger character (at least in name) than Captain Marvel and Ant Man. It should be earning a lot more than both of those movies.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 1/20/2025, 9:23 AM
Plus, we can't ignore the fact that - for whatever reason - a lot of fans simply haven't embraced Wilson taking up the Captain America mantle from Steve Rogers (Chris Evans).

Could one of those reasons be we just really liked Steve Rogers as Cap? I'm genuinely asking because many here seem to think it's just racism. I'm black. I liked the Falcon character. I think Anthony Mackie is one hell of an actor, and also very charming. Just watch his interviews the guy is hilarious and also insightful on many topics.

It's like the MCU started off with RDJ. He is still the big guy, but when Chris Evans came on board we were like whoa. The guy just was Cap. We loved the character. If Tony Stark just gave his mantle to someone else regardless of color we'd be like Hell No!!! Tony Stark is Ironman full stop. I didn't like John Walker as Cap either.

Yes, we know Sam Wilson is the new Captain America. It's dumb to think otherwise. We aren't writing the story, we aren't on set, and we aren't releasing it. We aren't Marvel/Disney. Some of us are just saying we like Steve as Cap and Sam as Falcon.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 1/20/2025, 9:29 AM
@DarthOmega - Of course. I preferred Rogers as Cap. There are plenty of reasons people haven't gotten on board with Wilson - but are you telling me that it's beyond the realm of possibility that someone out there simply doesn't want to see a black man wielding the shield?
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 1/20/2025, 9:34 AM
@MarkCassidy - Of course it's not beyond the realm of possibility. But when most people are saying they actually like that same black man and consider the shield a hand-me-down and the Falcon character was his own thing, I don't think we can keep blaming it on racism.

Racism is real, but we can't keep attributing everything to it.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 1/20/2025, 9:39 AM
@DarthOmega - I agree... fwiw, I don't think anyone (or very few... and I've prob blocked them already) on here has a problem with Sam because of his race... although they may have a problem with the perception that Marvel only made him Cap for diversity's sake, which I really don't think is accurate in this case. He's no Steve Rogers, but I do like the character. I don't think this movie looks very good, though, unfortunately.
mountainman
mountainman - 1/20/2025, 9:43 AM
@MarkCassidy - There are certainly more than zero people who reject Sam as Cap only because of his race. The question is, what proportion of the audience feels that way. My guess would be low, but we will never truly know.

The bigger question regarding how the movie performs is why does that matter? If the movie going audience rejects something for any reason, the movie will perform poorly. So let’s say that a majority of it is due to racism. In that case, the movie still performs poorly. One would think that the studio would produce movies that the audience wants to see. It’s their entire reason for existing.
Arthorious
Arthorious - 1/20/2025, 10:31 AM
@DarthOmega - I’d honestly prefer to see Isaiah Bradley’s events played out more so than Sam’s. To really see his history.
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 1/20/2025, 10:35 AM
@MarkCassidy - I don't think anyone can reasonably contest that there are more than a few people that don't want to see a black man holding the shield. But a sizeable number that materially affects US box office numbers? I very much doubt that. It's 2025, not 1965. Black Panther seven years ago -- before all the DEI/BLM nonsense that stared in 2020 -- did $700 million in the US, the highest domestic draw for a superhero film ($1.3 billion globally). Mackie is extremely likeable among the vast majority of US viewers. But he is not Captain America -- he is Falcon. Chadwick Boseman, OTOH, convinced us he is Black Panther. The similar problem is that Chris Evans convinced us he is Steve Rogers, such that people want to see "Steve" back.
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 1/20/2025, 10:39 AM
@DarthOmega - When i was a kid/teen, my top two favorite monthly reads were ASM and Captain America. I never had to worry about Peter not being Spidey because it never happened. But I would HATE it when Steve Rogers was being replaced with the 1950s Cap and there were a couple of other fake caps. I wanted Steve featured each month. When Steve would come back, it felt like a relief. I don't think this way of thinking is any different to how broader audiences view Marvel Studios' Captain America -- they want Steve as Cap. They love Sam, but he's not Cap.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 1/20/2025, 10:47 AM
@GeneralZod - User Comment Image
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 1/20/2025, 10:51 AM
@Arthorious - That's the one interesting part of this film. Also I really like the actor Carl Lumbly. Speaking of black heroes do you remember Carl on this show?

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Loved that show as a kid
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 1/20/2025, 10:58 AM
@Arthorious - Isaiah Bradley intrigues me, and has an intriguing story. A very X-Files vibe to it. Yeah, you could build a film around it. That would not be 'forced' DEI anything -- that's just good story-telling. But i doubt it will happen.
Arthorious
Arthorious - 1/20/2025, 12:22 PM
@DarthOmega - Man this show brings back some good memories. Loved this show as a kid, my brother and I use to fight each other on on who would get to be the Mantis when we would play outside.
Arthorious
Arthorious - 1/20/2025, 12:33 PM
@GeneralZod - Agreed, I think there's a good story there to tell but yeah I don't see that happening any time soon
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/20/2025, 1:09 PM
@DarthOmega - Ultimately even if it WAS Steve with a new actor that could easily impact BO just as much as an established legacy character if not more as there will be a question as to if it will be as good without the original actor as the lead of a film in a franchise for ANY character.

The impact will always be increased however amongst some demographics when aspects of the legacy differ, don't need to be full on racist to have an underlying bias resulting in more or less likely to give a new actor a chance in their first time as lead of a film prior to hearing good or bad WoM.

That is as far as I'm getting into it, ultimately if it is good it will counter most the headwinds it will face whatever those happen to be in specific cases (ie also economy and CBM fatigue, drop in brand trust not just the specifics to this character in this film).
Spike101
Spike101 - 1/20/2025, 2:41 PM
@DarthOmega - perfect choice there
cubrn
cubrn - 1/21/2025, 12:25 AM
@DarthOmega - Oh hi, another article of this movie that you comment on.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 1/21/2025, 1:16 AM
@cubrn - Wait, so you're following me on every article based on an interaction we had the other day? TF is wrong with you? I look at my inbox and you're there several times. Do you remember the discussion? I barely do but I think it was a long the lines of people commenting on movies they don't like or won't watch. I never said I don't like or won't watch this one. I actually said nothing about it grabbed my attention and I will most likely watch it on D+ later.

Whatever meds you're on I suggest you double the dosage because this is weird behavior. You have to learn to let things go
cubrn
cubrn - 1/21/2025, 10:18 AM
@DarthOmega - I get so turned on when you get like this
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 1/20/2025, 9:29 AM
@AllsGood -

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AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/20/2025, 9:36 AM
@harryba11zack - Hold News

Far from over. Brave New World is currently tracking for a solid box office debut of $86 million - $95 million over the 3-day Valentine's Day/President's Day weekend heading North of 100 million.
AnEye
AnEye - 1/20/2025, 9:37 AM
@AllsGood - So...LOWER than Ant-Man 3 still....
AnEye
AnEye - 1/20/2025, 9:51 AM
@AllsGood - "My gut telling me Captain America: Brave New World going get great Rotten Tomatoes Critics score."

That's called bubble guts. It has nothing to do with the box office predictions still being lower than Ant-Man 3.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/20/2025, 9:52 AM
@AnEye - My gut telling me Captain America: Brave New World going get great Rotten Tomatoes Critics score.

Foreign Box Office Numbers like China don't care about your concerns having a White Captain America.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/20/2025, 9:54 AM
@AnEye - Those are DOMESTIC Numbers not foreign or China.
AnEye
AnEye - 1/20/2025, 9:58 AM
@AllsGood - Yes for a movie that has AMERICA in the title, the DOMESTIC numbers should be higher than Ant-Man 3 considering it would be PRESIDENT'S DAY WEEKEND and it's making less than one of the worst MCU movies.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 1/20/2025, 9:59 AM
@AllsGood - remind us the budget again? Plus marketing
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/20/2025, 10:04 AM
@vectorsigma - Old News 375 million was it for Quality or a Bust? BUT was it worth the money? Only time will tell.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 1/20/2025, 10:09 AM
@AllsGood - 375m + maybe around 100+m for marketing?

Needs a billion to break even?
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/20/2025, 10:32 AM
@vectorsigma - Marvel Studios' Captain America: Brave New World is on TRACK to Dethrow Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014) at the Box Office.
AnEye
AnEye - 1/20/2025, 10:41 AM
@AllsGood - Yes, literally 21 Marvel movies made more than Winter Soldier. Hell even IRON MAN (2008) made more than Winter Soldier.......this is not a good flex kid.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/20/2025, 10:49 AM
@AnEye - POOR EXCUSE! Then why The Dark Knight filmed in (2008) hit 1 Billion Plus?

Domestic = $534,987,076

International = $474,020,470

Worldwide = $1,009,057,329
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/20/2025, 10:54 AM
@AnEye - While Iron Man (2008) same year as The Dark Knight made

Domestic = 319,034,126
International = $266,762,121

Worldwide =$585,796,247
AnEye
AnEye - 1/20/2025, 10:58 AM
@AllsGood - "Domestic = 319,034,126"

LOL a movie from 2008 with a lower budget, no script, and a 50/50 chance of success made that amount versus the movie with a reported $350 million budget can "HOPEFULLY" pass the box office of a film released nearly 11 years ago....

LOL ooff
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/20/2025, 11:04 AM
@AnEye - HELLO I ALREADY PONINED THAT OUT!

The Dark Knight 2008 Domestic same year as Iron-Man = Domestic = $534,987,076
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