CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD Tracking Towards $81M - $107M Box Office Debut; Update On New Trailer

@MarvelZombie616 - This. ^
Also, remember this movie supposedly has a budget of $375 million +.
There's no way this is turning a profit.

@TheLobster - Do You Realize Marvel Studios Captain America: Brave New World these are EARLY TRACKIG Numbers and Higher than Deadpool and Wolverine a month out numbers before released?

@AllsGood - I've been right about everything since No Way Home - here's one for ya: CAP4 will lose close to $400M when the real numbers finally come out. They spent far more than they are admitting and it will not even get close to Winter Soldier numbers. Not. Even. Close.

@TheLobster - You guys always talk out of your asses with the numbers that these movies require to break even.

@Amaru - it’s simple math. It’s already been reported that the budget was estimated to be around $375 million due to reshoots. This film has been reshot extensively (even actors like Tim Blake Nelson said they’ve shot an entire movie twice by now) and now they have to market it.

Marketing is typically (for these types of films) half fhe budget of the film itself so let’s say 125mil for marketing.. you’re looking at 500mil in total. They’re half a billion in the hole. Let that sink in..

Anyways; the budget is you want to make 2.5 times that BARE MINIMUM to break even, because movie theaters get their share of ticket sales too. So no - I didn’t pull numbers out of my ass - I actually was conservative this entire time and you obviously don’t know how this shit works lol

@TheLobster - You're my HERO OF THE DAY! For having to accurately explain the 2.5 multiplier for break even. People forget that theaters get 50% or more depending on the region and the marketing can be 50-100% of the budget. So if the budget is as reported $375M x 2.5 =$862.5M just to break even.i can't stand it when people think studios get 100% box office and a movie reaching it's production budget is profitable. HERO OF THE DAY!!! 50 GOLD STARS

@Apophis71 - you make good points about the tax breaks and I do realize we don’t have a confirmed number but given that these films usually cost 250m on average and having to reshoot a majority of the entire film pretty much makes sense that it’s another 100m down the drain.

Also; given that they’ve delayed the film now a whole year - they’re losing money on the interest of the loan they’ve taken to make this film with the banks so that’s added cost too.

I do think you’re right about them just wanting to make sure they make a GOOD film above profit because at this point - it’s almost guaranteed they make no real profit. If this flops and it’s poorly received? That pain will cost them even more money down the line.

@Apophis71 - that’s true I guess

I know they have been some overplayed budget rumors going on but I feel like that happens with many of these movies now so idk.

@TheFinestSmack - If this opens to $50 million, it’ll be a financial disaster on the level of Indy 5.

@CreateNowSlpL8r -

@Izaizaiza - Actually, yes. The problem is the MCU doesn't present that as a problem or even life experience for Sam. When Sam enters the MCU, Nick Fury is in charge of shield. Rhodey is an Avenger. Shortly after, Black Panther is introduced who is brillient and king of an entire country which is the most technically advanced country on the planet.

Endgame briefly shows Sam's motivation is to "do the best he can." The series begins with a version of Sam that is uncharacteristic. So if you want to use identity, you have to establish what happened to Sam as a result of his identity that causes this change in him. They didn't do that. Similarly, during the series, his identity is discussed as a plot device but they don't show you. Not even in flashbacks. So the way its written, its kind of character assassination. Sam just looks like he doesn't have the chops for it. He gives up the shield without even trying. This is the same guy who stepped up to help Steve when it was dangerous to do so. You can't leave it to the audience to guess "why." Its up to the writer to show and not tell. Remember this show was shot and came out during a time where there were real riots going on post George Floyd and for me, that was the writers inspiration. They repeatedly have conversations in the show that there is a legit motivation for that kind of behavior so they have Sam side with that narrative. Zemo represents the opposite. This behavior, anyone seeking the serum, are inheritently evil and need to be put down. In fact, Sam never really is changed by this journey. Sharon is the one who kills Karli. So we go through an entire series where Sam never develops. His point of view never changes. This is bad writing and since Sam is the hero, the writer uses him to communicate his position. Thats why the lecture in the end falls flat. Sam feels like the flagsmashers are victums so he gives it to the Senator.

Now before the usual crowd comes in with a hyper politcal view on this post. I'm not taking a position. I am breaking down the character arcs of the show and giving you my amateur opinion on how the writing is flawed. There are 100% ways to have made Sams identity part of his motivation but the writer uses it as a crutch. They change Sam but don't put in the work to develop Sam as a charater enough to have you justify his position. The writer assumes you agree with him.


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@CreateNowSlpL8r - Well, Sam is black in the United States, so I'm not sure that a personal experience with racism or identity politics was necessary, but the Isaiah Bradley story provided it.