Five Goals WB Needs To Accomplish In 2020 To Set Up A Bright Comic Book Movie Future

Five Goals WB Needs To Accomplish In 2020 To Set Up A Bright Comic Book Movie Future

The Batman doesn't premiere until 2021, but this year is just as important to the future of comic book movies at WB. To ensure a bright future, here are 5 goals the studio needs to accomplish in 2020.

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By MarkJulian - Jan 13, 2020 06:01 AM EST
Filed Under: DC Studios
With just two superhero films releasing in 2020, WB is betting big on the box office might of female moviegoers as Birds of Prey and Wonder Woman 1984 will attempt to recapture the same success as the first Wonder Woman film. However, there are things Warner Bros. should look to accomplish to set up what should be a very active next few years post-2020.  

WB is slated to release three films in 2021, The Batman, The Suicide Squad and Black Adam. One of these, the latest Batman reboot starring Robert Pattinson and directed by Matt Reeves, needs very little outside help. Batman (and his rogues) have a built-in audience, which explains why terrible films like Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad were still able to make a profit. On the flip side, Joker is a perfect example of the levels of success you can achieve when you enter the world of Gotham and actually have a stellar product to showcase. 

Batman is not what the studio needs to worry about, it's the other DC Comics IPs. The Shazam! sequel, the Rock's Black Adam and Aquaman 2 could all stand to benefit from WB throwing a few bones to its comic book fans.  Click the NEXT button below and we'll tell you what WB needs to accomplish and how it will benefit them in the long run.

Get A Brand

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It's hard to believe that WB's DC Comics adaptations still don't have an official name. The DCEU (DC Extended Universe) is an unofficial fan term that's stuck because the studio hasn't thought to give its superhero films a collective name. Even if WB is moving away from the idea of a shared cinematic universe, their superhero films should have a distinctive label for branding purposes. Case in point, Marvel could release a Stilt-Man movie and people are still going to show up in theaters if it's labeled as being part of the MCU.    

Just recently, Joker director Todd Phillips revealed that he wanted WB to create a DC Black label to release a series of low-budget, gritty, realistic interpretations of well-known DC heroes and villains, but for some reason, the studio wasn't keen on the idea. A strong brand creates a cushion for what would otherwise be colossal/costly misfires on risky projects. If WB ever wants to expand outside of its most popular characters, they need an established brand with a track record of success.  

Skip SDCC, Get Your Own Event

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Skip SDCC this year WB. Heck, skip SDCC for as long as Marvel Studios attends. Hall H belongs to Kevin Feige and co., and at this point, there's nothing you can do about it. Besides, Hall H presentations aren't about the fans in attendance (no matter what they tell you), they're about the media coverage those announcements get in the days following the convention. 

During and post-SDCC, the MCU is going to dominate that news cycle. WB would be better off making another convention its venue to make major announcements. WonderCon and NYCC are two fan conventions that WB should look to target given their size and the relatively light presence of the MCU.

Make Separate Yet Connected Films - A Multiverse

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What DC has that Marvel doesn't (to a certain degree) are Crisis level events that see superheroes from multiple realities converge to stop some unimaginable threat. Sure, Marvel has Secret Wars, Battleworld, and the Ultimate Universe, but those events pale in comparison to the complexity and the sheer number of alternate realities that make up DC Comics' Crisis Events. While the MCU might be looking to explore this same concept in the next Doctor Strange film, they don't have the same rich comic book history to draw from that WB/DC has. 

Furthermore, alternate realities would allow WB to dump films that don't meet expectations. For instance, if a film is critically panned or underperforms at the box office, WB can simply say that film took place on Earth-1163 and never venture there again. Such a concept would've allowed WB to dump Batman v Superman, Justice League and Suicide Squad and simply move on with Man of Steel, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Shazam! (potentially bringing those dumped films/characters back for a Crisis Event film).  

More Low-Budget Films

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Joker was a risk that WB only signed off on due to its low budget. Even Todd Phillips has admitted that he wasn't sure how the film would be received by audiences.

If Joker had a budget of $250M USD, it would never have been made (or more likely, would have included a costumed Dark Knight in some capacity). If lower budgets result in a greater willingness for WB to take risks, then someone at the studio needs to bring Phillips back in to re-pitch his DC Black idea.  

More Villain-centric Films  



In some ways, DC villains are more interesting than their heroes. They're rarely evil out of some twisted, internal need for mustache-twirling moments, and they usually have an end goal in mind that leads them to believe that ruthless methods are justified. Characters of this ilk make excellent subject matter for feature-length, standalone films. Perhaps WB should start new superhero trilogies with an origin story for the villain, not the hero?

Examining the villains was something the old Sam Raimi Spider-Man films did masterfully (Spider-Man 3 aside), and the audience always knew what the villain's motivations were and even felt just a little bit of sympathy.   

"If you want more DC film-based features, continue on for a look at the characters that still need to be cast in Matt Reeves The Long Halloween-inspired Batman film." 

Alberto Falcone

 


 
At the center of the long Halloween is a mob war between the Falcone and Maroni crime families. John Turturro was recently cast to portray Carmine Falcone, but it's Carmine's son Alberto who plays a key role in the story.  

Sal Maroni

 


In The Long Halloween, Sal Maroni is the son of  Luigi "Big Lou" Maroni and the heir-apparent of the Maroni family. The character previously appeared in Chirstopher Nolan's The Dark Knight, portrayed by Eric Roberts. In The Long Halloween the war between the Maronis and Falcones intensifies due to the Holiday killings (each family believes Holiday works for the other) and results in each employing "Gotham freaks" like Poison Ivy and Riddler as enforcers.

Harvey Dent



The Long Halloween is infamous for portraying an origin story for Harvey Den'ts Two-Face. A Gotham City DA hellbent on bringing the city's two ruling crime family's to justice (by any means), Dent's psychotic nature bubbles to the surface as the Holiday killer continues to elude Batman and the Gotham City Police Department. Recently, Peter Saarsgard joined the cast in a mystery role, leading some to speculate that he's our Harvey Dent, aka Two-Face.

Solomon Grundy

 


 Solomon Grundy makes a brief but memorable appearance in The Long Halloween, first tussling with Batman and then encountering Harvey Dent in the Gotham City sewers as he hid from Gotham law enforcement.  A similar appearance on screen would be a cool moment and serve to distinguish Reeves' film from past big screen Batman iterations that haven't really introduced any supernatural elements.     

Poison Ivy

 


Poison Ivy becomes employed by the Falcones, as they need to force Bruce Wayne to allow them to launder their money through Gotham City Bank. With Bruce heading the board of the bank, he becomes the target of Ivy's mind controlling pheromones. Bruce Wayne is able to break free thanks to Catwoman, although Ivy escapes during the confusion. The green-skinned supervillain later turns up in an epic moment that serves to illustrate that control of the Gotham underworld no longer resides with the Maroni or Falcone crime families and now belongs to the costumed freaks.

Mad Hatter

 


 
The Mad Hatter becomes employed by the Falcones and teams up with Scarecrow. Later on, he rises up with Two-Face, Penguin, Poison Ivy, Scarecrow, Solomon Grundy, Joker and Catwoman to overthrow the Falcones- a moment that signifies that Gotham now belongs to the "freaks."

Scarecrow 

 


 Like Mad Hatter, Scarecrow is employed by the Falcones and rises up with Two-Face, Penguin, Poison Ivy, Mad Hatter, Solomon Grundy, Joker and Catwoman to overthrow the Falcones- a moment that signifies that Gotham now belongs to the "freaks."

The Joker

 


The Joker appears fairly early on in Batman's investigation. It seems the Clown Prince of Crime is upset that there's now two homicidal maniacs in Gotham. He goes on a random killing spree before enacting a plan to kill a large number of people in Gotham Square in the hopes that one of them will be the Holiday killer. Luckily, he's thwarted by Batman before he can complete the dastardly deed.   

The Joker escapade is largely a diversion and doesn't really add much to the limited series, and with Jared Leto and Joaquin Phoenix both portraying the Batman rogue in recent years, it's hard to see WB introducing a third version of the character. It could be that Reeves is substituting Joker with Firefly, a character that never appeared in the Long Halloween but was featured earlier this year in a casting call for the film.

Calendar Man

 


Calendar Man plays a Hannibal Lecter type role in the story as Batman routinely visits him in Arkham Asylum to get his assessment on the holiday killings. Calendar Man cooperates because he's fearful that the Holiday killer will upstage him, using his own motif. His scenes with Batman could either be played for comedic relief or posses disturbingly sinister undertones. It will be interesting to see which direction Reeves takes the character (if he's included).

Gilda Dent

 


   Perhaps the most pivotal role of all in the story, who WB and Reeves cast to portray Harvey Dent's wife just might make or break the film.
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SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 1/13/2020, 6:39 AM
I'm pretty confident they'll still managed to mess it up. I'm only going by past actions, but one has to admit their efforts have been pretty poor considering how iconic these characters are. One thing about the Fox movies was they were all pretty bad, something WB has strived hard to achieve.
knocturnalzen10
knocturnalzen10 - 1/13/2020, 6:43 AM
greatest thing about Joker is it's bringing the different Spectrum's to CBM weather you enjoyed the film are not ....

less things to box cbm's in, as it continue's to evolve .
GhostDog
GhostDog - 1/13/2020, 6:57 AM
The only other DC villain who warrants their own solo feature is Lex. He's a big enough name like Joker to get people's butts in seats.
tmp3
tmp3 - 1/13/2020, 7:00 AM
@BlackBeltJones - We've had no good cinematic Lex and we're about to get our second Oscar-winning Joker.
knocturnalzen10
knocturnalzen10 - 1/13/2020, 7:00 AM
@BlackBeltJones - yep! he's an amazing Villain and played right can bring something magical imo
Supes17
Supes17 - 1/13/2020, 7:02 AM
Lex Luthor
tmp3
tmp3 - 1/13/2020, 7:05 AM
Just make good movies. That’s the only goal they need to accomplish. On paper a Joker solo film and a TV sequel to Watchmen sound like disasters, but they’re reaping the awards from both of these unconventional projects since they struck a chord with audiences/awards bodies
IronGenesis
IronGenesis - 1/13/2020, 7:20 AM
Let’s start with more tangible goals...

1.) Bring home some Oscar Hardware.

2.) BOP eat the box office and get fat off profit with only $75 Mill Budget and ZERO competition for nearly 2 months.

3.) WW 84...eat more of that box office and cruise to the $1 Bill Club.

4.) Hit Brazil in December 2020 and destroy the internet with ‘The Batman’ trailer.

That’s how you roll and win 2020.

Oh! And most important...just keep having courage, keeping bushing the boundaries of what a “CBM” is and have the strength to trust the artist and make the best FILM.

💎💎💎💎❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 1/13/2020, 8:06 AM
Mark, stop making sense, WB/DC isn't listening to you.
soberchimera
soberchimera - 1/13/2020, 9:31 AM
OT:
Forthas
Forthas - 1/13/2020, 9:58 AM
WB will NEVER have a bright comic book movie future until they build that univerese on the Nolan Dark Knight and Man of Steel. Joker just proved once and for all that audiences want character driven films... Not slapstick and cartoonish stories like in Batman V Superman, Shazam, Wonder Woman, and Aqiaman. Joker is more profitable and has garnered more industry respect than the trash that WB has been putting out like its upcoming Birds of Prey. They have still not learned and as a result will never achieve even half the success that Marvel has.
Forthas
Forthas - 1/13/2020, 10:06 AM
I find it odd that Joker has 11 Oscar nominations yet only a 69% Rotten Tomatoes critic score. Just like with Man of Steel critics underrate films that don't fit their idea of what a comic book movie should be. But the audience rightfully ignores them.
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 1/13/2020, 10:26 AM
I was with this article until it suggested that DC spam out a bunch of villain movies. This is a stupid idea, and I can't believe how many people completely learned the wrong lessons from the Joker movie.

This reminds me of when Batman v Superman flopped and all of the fans on this site were like "Well, this OBVIOUSLY means they need to rip-off Marvel's unique tone and style!" Yeah, because that's the reason it flopped.
4thMaster
4thMaster - 1/13/2020, 10:41 AM
Off-Topic: Could the stuff not related to the topic at hand be removed from the "display in 1 page" option? I'm tired of the extra page info from another article keeping me out of the comments for longer than necessary.

I think character centric movies are better than just villain focused ones. For example Everyone here seems to agree a Noir Question film would be amazing.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 1/13/2020, 11:58 AM
I feel like conversations around DC on film are incredibly skewed, and have been for almost a decade, because most of it's been about their ability to build a successful cinematic universe

But they kinda can't, and are mostly not trying anymore.

Their big hit this year was a standalone, their most hyped (The Batman) is essentially a reboot outside of the uni, and they don't have a single crossover on the books, not to mention BOP and TSS being soft reboots of their own. All of those movies could and should be successful, which illustrates the fact that DC on film has never had a bleak future, but WB tying all of their efforts into a cohesive universe was always where things fell apart, which is why the narrative surrounding it has always been so bleak.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 1/13/2020, 2:21 PM
Its not that hard. Just hire the writers from Injustice and Young Justice. Been watching the latter now, and it again confirms how much I like it
Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 1/13/2020, 5:55 PM
@MalseMarcel -
It's a bad idea to hire comic writers, cartoon writers, or video game writers to write the live action movies. Completely different mediums with different standards and sensibilities.

And while Injustice is pretty good as an Elseworlds-type thing, those aren't the versions of the characters we need in the movies.

• Most iterations of Superman wouldn't snap and become a brutal dictator (even after what Joker did), because of his moral upstanding and resilience.

• Hal Jordan would never willingly join the Sinestro Corps, and his strongest attribute is willpower. Even when he became evil in the comics, it was later retconned as being a completely separate character called Parallax.

• Superman doesn't have the ability to overpower Shazam as easily as he did in Injustice.

• Wonder Woman is given little to no explanation as to why she's such an evil asshole, and most of the superheroes would never join Superman in taking over the planet.

• Sinestro doesn't want to destroy the Green Lantern Corps because he believes they are necessary for maintaining order in the universe.

• ETC, ETC.

Injustice has a great story for an Elseworlds-style fighting game, but most of it was completely contrived and goes against most of the characters in the DCU.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 1/14/2020, 6:12 AM
@Darkknight2149 - Gotta agree with you on that actually. But still, it's more the ideas that these stories bring along instead of the actual stories I want to see. Both properties have very interesting takes on the whole superhero business.

The MCU made it work in several of their movies, DC should be able to do the same
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