James Gunn Says The DCU Is Ruled By 3 Groups: Metahumans, The Government & Giant Firms Like Wayne Enterprises

James Gunn Says The DCU Is Ruled By 3 Groups: Metahumans, The Government & Giant Firms Like Wayne Enterprises

According to DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn, the DCU is ruled by three factions and it seems Batman's Wayne Enterprises is one of the major players.

By MarkJulian - Aug 19, 2025 05:08 PM EST
Filed Under: DC Studios
Source: Interview Magazine

James Gunn was recently interviewed by his Super star Rainn Wilson in the aptly named Interview Magazine and the DC Studios co-chair touched on a number of interesting topics, including what makes the DCU different from other cinematic universes.

In talking about what separates the DCU from the MCU, James Gunn stated, "It’s a different map. It’s a world in which some form of superheroes, which we call Metahumans, have existed for at least 300 years and they’ve been a part of our life."

He added, "But I think that we’re reaching a point in the DCU where there’s three factions. There’s the Metahumans, the governments, and then the corporations. And the corporations are equally important. There’s Luthor Corp, there’s Lord Tech and Stagg Industries and Wayne Enterprises, which are the four big companies that are vying for another type of domination."

Gunn went on to explain, "And they aren’t evil corporations, really. They’re just [frick]ing amoral corporations."

Even Luthor Corp. isn't evil, despite the fact that Lex Luthor is its figurehead.  "The corporations in themselves aren’t evil. Corporations are amoral... Lex Luthor’s a pretty bad guy, although his corporation has done some great things. Luthor has created a battery, which has made the running of the world a much more efficient process. He has cars that run more efficiently, that are better for clean air. He’s done some really great things for the world, which is the reason for his obsession with Superman. He was considered the greatest guy in the world a few years ago, even though there were Metahumans, and then this guy with dimples and a glint in his eye in a silly costume came in and made him feel like shit, so he’s been sort of obsessed with him ever since and has gone evil..."

What’s your take on the DCU splitting itself into three powerhouse factions?

On one side, you’ve got the superheroes and supervillains, always clashing in high-stakes battles. On the other, world governments are pulling strings behind the scenes, while billion-dollar corporations make their own moves in the shadows. With Lord Tech now funding the Justice Gang, we’re already seeing some surprising overlap between these groups.

If corporations can bankroll a team of heroes, what’s stopping the government from doing the same? That kind of setup feels a lot like The Authority, a project James Gunn himself has admitted has been one of the trickier pieces to fit into his DCU puzzle.

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GalactusEatsALL
GalactusEatsALL - 8/19/2025, 5:22 PM
Lost…. Enterprises for the win 🏄‍♂️
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 8/19/2025, 5:24 PM
AND Nintendo
Godzilla2000Zer
Godzilla2000Zer - 8/19/2025, 5:25 PM
Cool stuff
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 8/19/2025, 5:26 PM
You're saying 3, Gun's saying 4, who am i to trust, also "Government & Giant Firms"?
Yeah, altogether that's more than 3 groups.
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 8/19/2025, 5:26 PM
And in rl, the DC universe is ruled by James Gunn, which is the most unfortunate thing of all.

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[frick]ing hack.
InfinitePunches
InfinitePunches - 8/19/2025, 5:33 PM
@THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - More unfortunate than 9/11?
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 8/19/2025, 5:34 PM
@THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - It's the same damn joke
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lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 8/19/2025, 5:54 PM
@THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - who did he hack?
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 8/19/2025, 5:33 PM
inflation
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TheJester187
TheJester187 - 8/19/2025, 5:35 PM
Yea yeah! Cast my Batman and tell Andy make a masterpiece.
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 8/19/2025, 5:39 PM
I’m excited for a universe different than the MCU which is just our earth and history but with a few supers sprinkled around it.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 8/19/2025, 5:55 PM
Cool
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/19/2025, 5:55 PM
That’s interesting , I like that grouping or breakdown tbh…

However idk if Wayne Enterprises I would consider “amoral” since I’m sure Bruce would make sure for his company to have some sort of moral compass unless he isn’t handling the day to day operations which is certainly a possibility and could be something that is dealt with in The Brave & The Bold or beyond.

Also I have no doubt the Authority if/when it happens will be the DCU government’s response to heroes and even corporations like Lordtech having their own team of them given the events of Superman especially with metahumans getting involved in geopolitical conflicts.

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WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 8/19/2025, 6:18 PM
@TheVisionary25 - I REALLY hope The Authority happens. I feel like that could be a totally different movie than The Justice League. (Unpopular opinion but so what) Get Zack Snyder to do it.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/19/2025, 6:21 PM
@WruceBayne - I rather not have Zack involved lol

Someone like a Matthew Vaughn or David Leitch might be my pick but not sure.

Regardless , I do hope it happens aswell!!.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 8/19/2025, 6:04 PM

What about the porn faction? We know that porn secretly runs the world. I wanna see a different kind of Wonder Woman.

No, not Hollywood's idea of a WONDER woman with an adam's apple.
DSAC294
DSAC294 - 8/19/2025, 6:12 PM
@DocSpock - 😂😂🍎
BruceWayng
BruceWayng - 8/19/2025, 6:09 PM
Luthor Corp
Lord Tech
Stagg Enterprises
Wayne Enterprises
Kord Industries
Queen Industries
STAR Labs
Daggett Industries
Thorne Industries
Ferris Aircraft
Ace Chemicals
Janus Cosmetics

What other ones???
Bucky74
Bucky74 - 8/19/2025, 6:19 PM
The problem with that is that when you have a world full of Meta’s then Superman isn’t that special. He’s not even the most powerful (at least that’s the way this film portrayed him). “If everyone is Super then no one is” (Incredibles), and that’s the problem for that logic. Why is Lex so against Supes here and not other meta’s. There are plenty of other aliens with powers in the DCU. Why specifically Superman? I’m not saying Gunn can’t rationalize it (the comics have) but this version of Superman comes off as a lower power level whiny man-child. He should be the most powerful hero. I guess if he’s the most “popular” that can be a justification for Lex’s jealously but it’s a harder sell than it should be.

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