Jason Flemyng Reveals Why He Declined Offer To Return As Azazel In DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE (Exclusive)

Jason Flemyng Reveals Why He Declined Offer To Return As Azazel In DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE (Exclusive)

Jason Flemyng played Azazel in X-Men: First Class but didn't reprise the role in Deadpool & Wolverine. Talking to us about The Stoic, the actor reveals why he declined Marvel Studios' offer to return...

By JoshWilding - Oct 25, 2024 10:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Deadpool & Wolverine

After working with filmmaker Matthew Vaughn on several movies - including Layer Cake and Kick-Ass - Jason Flemyng (Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels) boarded the cast of 2011's X-Men: First Class as the villainous Azazel. 

Vaughn seemingly had big plans for the character, only for Bryan Singer's return to the franchise with X-Men: Days of Future Past to result in Magneto's original Brotherhood being killed off-screen. Nightcrawler's father got a second chance in Deadpool & Wolverine as one of The Void's Variants, but he was played by stuntman Eduardo Gago Munoz in place of Flemyng. 

X-Men: The Last Stand star Vinnie Jones previously revealed that he turned down the chance to return as Juggernaut due to the hassle of donning the costume for such a minor role, and it was a similar situation for Flemyng.

Talking to us earlier today about his role in The Stoic, the British screen icon confirmed that Marvel Studios did reach out to him. However, when it became clear he was only needed for a few action scenes and a lot of time in the makeup chair, he declined the offer. 

Flemyng would go on to explain the challenges of starring in a superhero movie and why, at this stage in his career, he'd rather "have a family than a figure" due to what these projects demand of actors. 

You can watch (at the 7:28 mark) or read an excerpt from our conversation about his Marvel and Pennyworth roles below. 

Deadpool & Wolverine came out this summer but you weren’t playing Azazel. Vinnie Jones said he was contacted and decided not to do it. Did they ever reach out to you?

It was the same thing. The same thing happened. Basically, they came to us and were like, ‘Would you like to do it? It’s three days fighting, two days makeup tests. Basically, you’ll be hired as a stunt performer.’ [frick], mate, listen, if I needed a couple of grand I’d have done it, but I didn’t at the time so I was like, ‘You know what, let a stunt man do it and they’ll do a good job. It’s fine.’ It’s actually not done me any harm because everyone keeps going, ‘Man, we saw you were in Deadpool, another big movie.’ Okay, if I get a few signatures at Comic-Con because I was in Deadpool, I’ll take it [Laughs]. 

Matthew [Vaughn] was going to come back for Days of Future Past before things changed. It looked like there were big plans for Azazel to be a big part of Magneto’s group. They killed your character off-screen, though, so were you disappointed that things didn’t pan out?

You know what, the truth is, those big movies are lucrative and fun to a degree. The reality is, you’re five months away from home. You put all that makeup up and they go, ‘Cut, thanks very much Jason. We’ll see you next Thursday.’ It can be wearing. Even though of course it’s a thrill and I grew up wanting to be in those big movies…even here, in Malaysia, people are like, ‘Oh, Azazel, Azazel, we love you!’ I’m doing pictures with that whole [pose] with the knives. That’s amazing, but the reality is, if you don’t want the money, it’s not very artistically fulfilling. By the way, my mum went to work every day and hated every minute of it so I’m not saying I need to love every minute of going to work, but those big movies are financially thrilling, and artistically disappointing. 

I completely understand where you’re coming from. I can see how as an actor you’d want something more to sink your teeth into than a few days of stunts. 

Yeah, I’d take The Stoic over Deadpool any day of the week. 

[Laughs] Of course, you got another chance with comic books in Pennyworth and you did a lot more with that character.

That was great fun. I mean, there you go, that’s the point. When you go to work and you’re filming, you want to be on set every day. If you’re at home, it’s great. Pennyworth was at Leavesden and I could go home. If I was off for three or four days, it was fine but when you’re away from home on X-Men or Benjamin Button or anything like that, it’s really tough. It’s a choice. ‘Do I want to be away from my life, miss my kids and my wife or do I want to stay at home and choose the projects that are here?’ The truth is, when it’s David Fincher, I’ll go away but with Marvel and X-Men stuff, if Azazel came back, I’d love that, but now I’m probably in a position where I can say, ‘You know what guys, I totally get Azazel doesn’t speak much…maybe we could just do it over 9 weeks and then just shoot me out.’ Maybe they’d listen, maybe they wouldn’t. It’s nice to be in a position where you’re not absolutely gagging to do that. All the figures behind you, I can see them all…unless you commit, you ain’t getting a figure. That’s the difference. I’d rather have a family than a figure. That was good! 

The Stoic is now available on Digital and On Demand.


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SummersEssex
SummersEssex - 10/25/2024, 10:53 AM
Such a good actor.
Gambito
Gambito - 10/25/2024, 11:20 AM
Lazy
kazuma
kazuma - 10/25/2024, 2:03 PM
@Gambito - what's lazy about it? The dudes just shy of 60 and doesn't want to or need to spend 4+hrs a day to just stand there and do nothing.

Him being there or not absolutely changed nothing for him or that movie.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 10/25/2024, 8:26 PM
@Gambito - the role was garbage. At least he was cool in First Class.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 10/25/2024, 11:31 AM
Those are some interesting and honest insights about the financially and artistically fulfilling sides of the job. Good for him he gets a few autographs out of it.
SATW42
SATW42 - 10/25/2024, 11:53 AM
I always find it interesting when they talk about these movies being "artistically fulfilling" If he doesn't find these roles provide that for him, that's COMPLETELY fine. I just feel like, you get out of it what you give, right?

That's always been how I've looked at my art. Doesn't matter the client or the size of the project, I get out of it what I put into it.

I think that mindset can go a long way with a lot of actors and directors, instead of just deciding certain forms of storytelling are somehow beneath them, or artisically bankrupt.
TrentCrimm
TrentCrimm - 10/25/2024, 12:14 PM
@SATW42 -

I can see what he means, as someone who's a hobbyist carpenter.

Building say a swing set or a slide for my kids is cool, and it's fun to make, but as far as stimulating my brain and digging into the aspects of carpentry I love, I'd rather build an intricate chest of drawers with beautiful inlays and hard carved pieces.

Doing both those things are fine and enjoyable, but only one of them really scratches the itch of what I love about the craft.
MahN166A
MahN166A - 10/25/2024, 12:08 PM
I mean last I recall, he didn’t really do shit in First Class either. Just showed up randomly and stood there. He had a few fight scenes but it’s definitely most of the time going to be a stunt performer in the makeup.
So essentially you would have been doing the same thing you did as Azazel in FC. All you had to say, was that I didn’t feel like getting in makeup with limited screen time.

If you are going to talk about being artistically fulfilled then please explain you playing Jekyll and Hyde in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

🤣🤣 Come on, don’t be a Turturro.
Just say what you want to say.
kazuma
kazuma - 10/25/2024, 2:07 PM
@MahN166A - first class was 13 years ago and League of extraordinary gentlemen was 21 years ago.

It's safe to say that he doesn't need to do those roles anymore. And he'll, Jekyll and Hyde was an actual character. Wtf did Azazel even say in first class?
MahN166A
MahN166A - 10/25/2024, 2:28 PM
@kazuma -

That’s my whole point. Why is he trying to make himself out to be unfulfilled in playing a role like that when he didn’t have much purpose when he signed on to that role in the first place?

Dude is a gifted and talented actor but he shouldn’t morally posture about being artistically unfulfilled when he literally admits in the interview that he would have taken the job if:
“If I needed a couple of grand, I’d have done it”

If you don’t want to be there, then don’t be there. Dude shouldn’t subject himself to doing a role simply for money and phoning it in if it doesn’t do anything for him. But he’ll do it for the money?
Might as well start an OF going with that logic.

I get it. When you gotta put food on the table, do what you gotta do, but don’t hide behind the “struggling artiste” motif when you have to do what you have to do.
There are plenty of roles that he could do that can be fulfilling to his art AND/OR pay well. It’s his choice.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 10/25/2024, 8:27 PM
@MahN166A - Azazel had far more screen time and presence in FC than he did in DvW
Slotherin
Slotherin - 10/26/2024, 3:03 AM
@MahN166A - it's not a struggling artist, he's if anything more suggesting a selective one.... He said specifically he didn't need the money this time around
MahN166A
MahN166A - 10/26/2024, 11:10 AM
@Slotherin -

No, I know. He also said specifically that he would take the job if he needed the money despite how artistically unfulfilling it would be.
There are other jobs out there that can be fulfilling AND/OR pay well. He doesn’t HAVE to take the role again if it’s gonna make him unhappy. But because he knows it can be “somewhat fun”, but he also states that films like DP & W are “financially fulfilling and not artistically fulfilling”.

Okay then, Mr Flemyng! I truly respect that. But don’t go and say you would come back so you could make a few thousand “if you needed it”. Meanwhile you will be in makeup, internally conflicted with your decision, phoning in the performance, standing around with minimal lines, being far away from your family and saying:

“ All the figures behind you, I can see them all…unless you commit, you ain’t getting a figure. That’s the difference. I’d rather have a family than a figure. “

I respect him highly for picking his family over the money. But if he truly needed money? He doesn’t need to go back to America and shoot a few little scenes of him standing around and doing nothing. He could still get a decent check working for Fincher or anyone else who truly admires his talent, by staying local.

The whole point in my rant, is that he contradicts his very own (highly admirable) ideals within his statements FOR A CHECK, when he doesn’t have to.
What is one of the key things that we usually complain about regarding actors in films??
We complain about how lackluster their performance is, and how you can tell within the film that some of them truly don’t know the character, don’t CARE to know the character, don’t put any sort of energy compared to others in their performance. How some of them do interviews in regards to their characters and we immediately come here and go:

“Yeahhh….they don’t get it.

Can we actually get someone who read the [frick]ing comics?! Huh?!”

“Dude phoned it in for a check.”
People were saying this type of shit 👆🏽 particularly in regards to Michael Keaton coming back as Batman and Beetlejuice.

Why would we want a man in a role in one those movies if he ain’t happy to be there?? That sort of scenario eventually and usually leads to someone walking away from a project, and we have seen it.
Which is why I said earlier that if he needed the money (and did this role) to put food on the table for him and his family, then I wouldn’t be wasting time writing this novel. Cause he is doing it for his family.
But that isn’t the case.

TheLobster
TheLobster - 10/25/2024, 12:26 PM
I mean if the pay is low then I kind of get it? Flying out to do just 3 days of fighting with two days of make up testing for a throw away role with no lines? Yeah - I can see why they passed lol
grif
grif - 10/25/2024, 12:28 PM
damn completely forgot about him in that movie

TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 10/25/2024, 12:29 PM
A little makeup and WALA even JB Smoove could play em
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 10/25/2024, 1:06 PM
Would have been cool to say he fought Snipes Blade but oh well. 🤷‍♂️
dancingmonkey08
dancingmonkey08 - 10/25/2024, 1:27 PM
What a terrible reason, badass movies come before families, imagine caring about your family... ;)
Matchesz
Matchesz - 10/25/2024, 1:57 PM
Anyone else disappointed they brought those characters back but didnt bring back their “characters” they should have had some development at least so we can have more meaningful one on one fights
Slotherin
Slotherin - 10/26/2024, 3:07 AM
@Matchesz - it was more or less what I expected but yeah, it is a shame.
Sabertooth was the biggest disappointment and even Pyro felt lacking. For all my criticism of No Way Home's nostalgia fuel, they did more with even their most minor returns in Lizard and Sandman.
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 10/25/2024, 2:16 PM
If they would have gave him a juicer part, I'd say he should have done it. If it was going to be exactly what we got, then he made the right choice. The same for all the other recast characters.
WeaponXCII
WeaponXCII - 10/26/2024, 9:04 AM
I still don’t understand this decision. Couldn’t they have gotten the actors’ decisions, and then choose from there? Did they have to lock in these completely replaceable, zero personality goons before filming even began for some elusive reason? I just don’t get it.

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