ETERNALS Borrows More From Jack Kirby's Original Work Than Neil Gaiman And John Romita Jr.'s Run

ETERNALS Borrows More From Jack Kirby's Original Work Than Neil Gaiman And John Romita Jr.'s Run

The Eternals don't have the most storied comic book history, but one of the movie's producers, Nate Moore, has now revealed that the movie borrows far more from Jack Kirby than John Romita Jr.

By JoshWilding - Oct 14, 2021 03:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Eternals
Source: ComicBook.com

Eternals is right around the corner, so now is as good a time as any to catch up on their comic book adventures. They don't have the most storied of histories, but there are two runs that always stand out to fans: Jack Kirby's seminal work and Neil Gaiman and John Romita Jr.'s popular run. 

We'd highly recommend checking out Keiron Gillen's current series, though that obviously won't have influenced what we see on screen because it only actually launched a little earlier this year. 

Talking to ComicBook.com on the set of Eternals in early 2020, producer Nate Moore explained the biggest influences on the Marvel Studios movie. "Eternals as you guys probably know, is created by Jack Kirby, 1976. The most popular run, again, I'm telling you guys the things you know, was probably the Neil Gaiman run, right? And I think that's the expectation of this movie."

"We'll probably borrow out from that. But the truth is we actually are more inspired by the Kirby stuff, so we're kind of going back to the old stuff, both mythologically and how the movie lays out."

Moore added that the premise of Gaiman's run, that the Eternals were immortals who'd had their memories erased and learned they were special, was a little too similar to other iconic franchises. "That's pretty cool but that's also the plot of Harry Potter, and I'm Number Four and a lot of movies like that, The Matrix, right? Whereas we thought it would be more interesting to spend the time with the characters who knew exactly who they were, and to track those characters through in our movie, what will be 7,000 years of human history."

Explaining that the MCU's Eternals "know exactly why they're here and what they're doing," he added that "we do change some of the Kirby mythology. So our movie takes place over two time periods. It's structured, again, not in quality, but in style like Godfather II. There's a past storyline and the present storyline."

Based on what we've seen in the trailers, the movie is definitely borrowing a lot from Kirby's work. However, if there's one thing we've come to understand in this shared world, it's that Kevin Feige and company aren't necessarily interested in exact retellings of comic book storylines. 

Eternals is set to be released in theaters on November 5. 

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jj2112
jj2112 - 10/14/2021, 3:53 AM
I liked their original run, although it was heavily influenced by all that Däniken BS.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 10/14/2021, 7:24 AM
@jj2112 -
That Von Daniken BS was all the rage in the 70's when Kirby did the original. The space program was still fresh and humanity was dreaming of the stars.
Fogs
Fogs - 10/14/2021, 7:49 AM
@jj2112 - Well since it's a work of fiction it can be very well be inspired on anything with zero problems. I'm talking about Eternals, just to make it clear, lol.
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 10/14/2021, 3:53 AM
i wish every comicbook movie would borrow kirby's design.
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 10/14/2021, 7:13 AM
@Superheromoviefan -
drbong
drbong - 10/14/2021, 11:48 AM
@Superheromoviefan - schumacher basically did and the mainstream public was utterly confused by it...
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 10/14/2021, 12:39 PM
@drbong -
thor ragnarok did and the mainstream public was utterly enchanted by it
drbong
drbong - 10/14/2021, 5:37 PM
@Superheromoviefan - I understand but taika wasn’t the first...and honestly unless Disney is hiding something I’m not seeing Kirby anywhere in these trailers for the eternals (and the cgi/design looks terrible)...maybe it’s more Kirby in story?
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 10/14/2021, 7:33 PM
@drbong -
are you serious?

drbong
drbong - 10/15/2021, 3:39 AM
@Superheromoviefan - yes I am...
Not sure how u can look at the screen grab below and say that screams jack kirby and not someone should have fired the set lighting designer immediately!!
Superheromoviefan
Superheromoviefan - 10/15/2021, 7:18 AM
@drbong - to me most of them look nearly identical to the comic.
tmp3
tmp3 - 10/14/2021, 3:56 AM
OT: The Batman's a nearly 3-hour long "full blown noir film" with narration from Pattinson's Batman
https://twitter.com/ViewerAnon/status/1448594033492758533
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 10/14/2021, 4:12 AM
@tmp3 - I guess that's a way to differentiate it from Nolan's take.
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 10/14/2021, 4:38 AM
@Waddles - imagine if this was Affleck's version...
"and then he looked at me, and in a desperation move he shouted "save....Martha...". at that moment I couldn't do anything other than return the question. "WHY DID YOU SAID THAT NAAAAAAAME?!", I asked him before the kryptonite effects wore off".
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 10/14/2021, 5:13 AM
@tmp3 - that was rumored back in Feb 2019 and June 2020....is it for real this time?
GwenLantern
GwenLantern - 10/14/2021, 4:39 AM
This makes a lot of sense from an adaptational perspective.

The Eternals was one story Lots of side adventures, but one main overarching plot (the Judgment of Arishem). Kirby never got to finish it, so Roy Thomas gave it an ending in Thor.
Now, I do love the whole Roy Thomas Eternals Saga, it's classic, epic material, but that ending always felt like a wet fart and the Eternals were directionless and pointless from then on.

So what Gaiman did was to replace Arishem with the sleeping Celestial and all of a sudden there was impetus again.

So it really should take it's cues from the 1976 stuff and then throw a little Gaiman and other stuff in there. But the skeletal strucure should be the Kirby stuff.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 10/14/2021, 4:48 AM
"As I stood across from the group of thugs in clown makeup, I locked eyes with the one in front. In that instant we both knew in another time and place we may have been brothers. But here? Now? I'm gonna punch this idiot 20 times in the face."
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 10/14/2021, 4:49 AM
OT:


PapaSpank54
PapaSpank54 - 10/14/2021, 5:23 AM
@regularmovieguy - I guess it was only a matter of time before this kinds take on Eddie made it to the screen. Since it's Paul Dano I'm cool with it!
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 10/14/2021, 7:13 AM
@PapaSpank54 - I mean that’s basically what he was in the Arkham games and it fit perfectly so it makes sense
ElvenKingSlayer
ElvenKingSlayer - 10/14/2021, 6:17 AM
I wish they borrow from Earth X which will tie into Galactus further down the line..
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 10/14/2021, 6:46 AM
@ElvenKingSlayer - Agreed. Earth-X is my favorite Marvel story of all time.
ElvenKingSlayer
ElvenKingSlayer - 10/14/2021, 12:42 PM
@CorndogBurglar - It sure was a good read. Are the follow-ups worth checking out?
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 10/14/2021, 12:56 PM
@ElvenKingSlayer - I've only read Universe-X. Been meaning to read Paradise X. They are all on Marvel's digital comics site.

Universe X was kind of what you would expect. It's still good, but you can tell they are trying to keep the story going when it was never planned. Like I said, still good, but not as good as Earth X. Its worth reading for sure.
jj2112
jj2112 - 10/14/2021, 6:54 PM
@CorndogBurglar - I love Earth, Universe was ok but Paradise isn't really worth it imo.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 10/15/2021, 4:06 AM
@jj2112 - Yeah, I was afraid of that. Universe was good. But it was definitely not as good as Earth X. So I kind of figured it would continue getting worse. Earth X was such a huge world ending event they were fighting against that seemed completely un-winnable, and Universe X somehow made it an even bigger Universe ending event that seemed un-winnable. So I was afraid Paradise would completely jump the shark. I know nothing about Paradise X but going off the name I would imagine it has to do with the afterlife, since so many people die in the first two stories.
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