FAN-ticising: Casting the Martian Manhunter A Case for Vin Diesel

FAN-ticising: Casting the Martian Manhunter A Case for Vin Diesel

As casting news and rumors continue to swirl around Batman vs. Superman, maybe it's time to take a step back and reevaluate what the DC Cinematic Universe really represents.

Editorial Opinion
By Spock0Clock - Feb 01, 2014 02:02 AM EST
Filed Under: Fan Fic

The DC Cinematic Universe is going to be a thing. Even after the Euthanization of the Nolan-verse (released in theaters under the name Dark Knight Rises). Even after the sphincter-clenching disaster of Ryan Reynolds' Green Lantern, originally intended to be the official genesis of the project. Even after Man of Steel, where a nation collectively turned to the person next to them hoping to gauge what their own response should be before offering a tentative “I guess so”. There is simply too much theoretical money to be made from a Marvel-style shared movie universe to be ignored. The DC Cinematic Universe is going to be a thing.

And so, the sequel to Man of Steel seems to have been elected by Warner Brother's shareholders as the introduction of the DCCU's Batman (with all of the consternation that caused) and at least a cameo for the DCCU Wonder Woman (with all of the consternation that caused), so this really does seem like the tone the whole endeavor will have: dark, funereal, shunning the conventions of the “cartoonish” comics while eagerly embracing the outlandish conventions of blockbuster popcorn cinema. Every bit the spiritual successor of the Dark Knight trilogy. Okay, I can live with this.

In that context, I humbly propose that Vin Diesel is the perfect man to play the J'onn J'onzz, Martian Manhunter. Here's why:



I won't be spending a lot of time on Diesel himself. The specific casting in this case is less important than the message it sends about how the Martian Manhunter should be portrayed. Diesel's been in enough movies that you can make up your own mind if his grumbly mumbly tough-guy routine is or isn't your cup of tea. The Martian Manhunter is not the only alien in the Justice League, but he is certainly the most alien. Distant. Possessed of inhuman emotions. A cipher onto which we can affix our own fears or our compassion. And he shares this with many of the roles Diesel has already played. Setting aside the troubles of both franchises, Dominic Toretto of the Fast and Furious series and Riddick of... uh... Riddick are equal parts merciless thug, monster, loyal friend, protector, and savior. They are opaque characters, settled firmly in a moral gray. In my view, Vin plays them well. He can play it tough or he can play it soft, but there's always enough nuance to leave you guessing. And he was the Iron Giant, after all.

Originally, Martian Manhunter's secret identity was that of John Jones, a private investigator (or “manhunter” in the vernacular of the era). This has been lost in most adaptations of the Martian, and as far as I can tell hasn't featured that prominently in the character's recent comic history, either. But it should... or at least it could. The traditional fedora-tipping, trench coat-sporting John Jones would never fit in the self-consciously modern world of the DC Cinematic Universe, but what if he was less Dick Tracy and more Dog the Bounty Hunter?

Imagine the Martian Manhunter as a rough and tumble bail bondsman who hangs around dive bars and strip clubs, developing working relationships with those at the fringes of the criminal underworld. That's vastly different than the sort of sleuthing the Dark Knight typically does on the silver screen (i.e. “type at a computer until it tells Batman the answer” or “hit the person until he tells Batman the answer”). Considering that the Flash will most likely be a CSI lab tech in his day job, having a “detective” who cares less about physical evidence and more about motive and human intelligence would make for a nice contrast within the Justice League ensemble. It also gives the Martian Manhunter a role in the inevitable “team squabbles” that usually boil down to Batman's moral ambiguity and Superman's idealism. Rather than the usual wide-eyed detachment of the character, this is a Manhunter that might actually have strong convictions about crime-fighting methods.

The Martian Manhunter has been a staple in DC's team books for decades and recent animated team television and movies, but there's not a lot of material focused exclusively on him, and even that is usually about his place in the history or future of Mars. Considering the dour tone of Man of Steel, I'm not sure I'd really like them to spend a second movie franchise dwelling on the extinction of an entire planet. We've seen Warner Brothers take a blind stab at “ambitious space epic” in Green Lantern, and no one wants to see that again. Even the image of a lone philosophical figure pacing through the red dust of Mars has already been done recently by WB and Zack Snyder in the Watchmen.

Unless it got completely reconnected somewhere along the way that I'm not aware of, the story of the Manhunter's arrival on Earth is, well... dated to say the least. J'onn is transported to Earth by a lone scientist by accident via a machine that really wasn't intended to do that. Once stranded on Earth, he decides to fight crime because why not. That's about it. It's the sort of five-page excuse-to-get-the-premise-rolling that dominated the Silver Age, but wouldn't make for the most engaging film. Without going down the rabbit hole of “what would make a good movie according to me”, I'd just suggest that maybe the circumstances of the Martian's arrival on Earth could be left vague or even unknown. The origin story, in this case, is him learning to live among humans, growing toward a friendship with one or a few specific humans, then something traumatic (kidnapping, murder, or other conflict) leads him to properly become a “manhunter”. Basically, imagine if E.T. decided to became a crime-fighting badass instead of phoning home.

Can a more traditional incarnation of J'onn work on film? Sure, but would he work in the upcoming DC Cinematic Universe? Based on the recent attempts of Warner Brothers to adapt their comic book properties (placing special emphasis on Green Lantern and Man of Steel as their intended foundations) and the news that has come out about Batman vs. Superman, I don't think so. The technicolor J'onn J'onzz of the comics, with his occasionally humorous capers, doesn't seem to belong with Henry Cavill's grim Superman in the washed-out blue cityscape of Zack Snyder's Metropolis. The Martian's sensitive introspection likely wouldn't fit with a Wonder Woman played by Gal Gadot, whose previous roles have been in films that are decidedly superficial. By all appearances, Warner Brothers is building the DCCU around the baser appeals of flash-in-the-pan actors and uninspired directors that don't know the difference between “epic” with “long”. Where the third act is reserved for a noisy, confusing, tedious CGI battle. Where Jesse Frickin' Eisenberg is somehow Lex Luthor... *Ahem*

In short, if Warner Brothers tried to do the traditional Martian Manhunter now, I'm sure they would screw it up. But I think they can manage the compromised, action-oriented, more accessible version I suggested above, and that's definitely Vin Diesel. This is the Case for a Completely New Take on the Martian Manhunter or more accurately:

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kong
kong - 2/1/2014, 2:47 AM
No. Vin Diesel is not a good actor at all. MM should be played by a great actor. If he ever gets a movie (which he probably won't) it'll definitely be about his time on Mars and what caused him to come to earth. If they make a sequel I could see them making him a detective on earth, but not vin diesel.
GoldSlayer1
GoldSlayer1 - 2/1/2014, 3:15 AM
They should go with a black actor for MM.

I've seen the name Colin Salmon pop up a lot for MM.
He current plays Walter Steele in Arrow.

this could cause some confusion if the universe are shared, but f*** it,
the role is more important than the actor.

Besides, Vin is a marvelite now.
He's voicing Groot and he's heavily rumored to be playing The Vision as part of a contract (cause i doubt they would waste vin diesel for just voice acting)
GoldSlayer1
GoldSlayer1 - 2/1/2014, 3:34 AM
@RedHood
Another possibility for MM if you want a good actor is Will Smith.
i know this one seems odd, but to me he proved he could carry a superhero movie with Hancock that made $624+ million at the box office.

I think Will would be good for Either John Stewart or Martian Manhunter.
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 2/1/2014, 6:55 AM
I'm don't want to sound like a cliche but I really don't think you understand the Martian Manhunter if you think "he decides to fight crime because why not?"

He lost his people. He's stuck with himself, completely isolated, not knowing when his hell is ever going to end. It seems like eternity, and yet the same long day. He's completely lost track of time. He's experiencing some major post traumatic stress. He uses his shapeshifting powers to puppeteer familiar faces and have schizophrenic conversations with himself. He is NOT well.

Then he's transported to Earth, which is both painful in the act, and painful in recovery. He has difficulty shutting out the noise, and its overwhelming, even moreso than a young Clark Kent would experience because it's our thoughts he can hear. All the cynicism, all the lies, all the fear, the doubt, the fantasies, the routines, the planning - it quickly changes his perception on his past hell on Mars.

His conscious is driving him. The only way he can live with it all is to revert back to a familiar role - a "manhunter". This is not a bounty hunter, as some would misinterpret, but an investigator. Like Stephen King once said, writers write not because they want to, but because they have no other choice. It's something he can feel passionate about.

Anyway, no Vin Diesel.
Interestein
Interestein - 2/1/2014, 9:58 AM
They need someone versatile and calm, but bad ass. I don't really know who I'd cast, but it wouldn't be Diesel.
6of13
6of13 - 2/1/2014, 10:24 AM
I have to agree with Tainted.

There is a scene in the animated Justice League series where the Justice League are looking for Lex Luthor who is wearing his armour, so he's very dangerous. So, in order to find Lex as quickly as possible, the Martian Manhunter opens his telepathy to the whole city. Big mistake for him because everybody's thoughts, frustrations and worries comes flooding into his mind. He cannot turn it off. It overwhelms and he flies off somewhere isolated so he can gain some solitude from the influx of emotions from thousands and thousands of people.

The point I am trying to make is that J'onn does not just read minds, he can feel the emotions of everybody he comes across.

He is a telepath and an empath - like Deanna Troy on Star Trek: The Next Generation. In essence, he is the emotional core of the Justice League, because he not only understands the deep-seeded emotional conflicts of his team members, but can feel exactly what they feel and what drives them. His level of sympathy is very, very high. All his emotions, as a result, are very strong.

As Tainted already pointed out, J'onn has alot of emotional baggage of his own - his people annihilated, his wife and child dead and himself feeling the torment and agony of millions of Martians as they burned to death because of H'ronmeer's Curse. That is a huge burden for anyone to bear.

Whoever lands up playing the Martian Manhunter has to be able to physically show ALL that emotion that J'onn has inside him but also has to be able to convey the deep loss that he feels.

I have to obstinately disagree with Vin Diesel as J'onn because I honestly think that he does not have the capacity or the range to be able to portray J'onn and his psychological range.

His emotions, sympathy and empathy have to be very palpable. You should be able to see it on his eyes and sense it from his presence. Again, Vin will never be effectual in showing this kind of emotional/psychological scope.
Lhornbk
Lhornbk - 2/1/2014, 9:59 PM
How about, we just leave MM out of the Justice League movie? They did it in the new 52, and I think they had the right idea. They can always have him come in during a sequel, as an addition or replacement.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 2/2/2014, 3:44 PM
Fishburne would've made a great Martian Manhunter. Too bad he's already White.
aresww3
aresww3 - 2/3/2014, 4:58 AM
WTF. This is a troll article, no?
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