Fantastic Four Reboot Plot Ideas and Mini-Script

Fantastic Four Reboot Plot Ideas and Mini-Script

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By BigeBigzWells - Aug 02, 2012 02:08 PM EST
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For those who have seen my previous fan-cast submission of a Fantastic Four Reboot, you would know I have a new idea in mind of creating a MCU related F4 movie but with a few changes.

For those who haven't seen my fan-cast here you go: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BigeBigz/news/?a=64927

Anyway, continuing on from that, I will add on here some of the plot ideas I had:

- A new younger cast (with the exception of Ben Grimm and Victor Von Doom).

- Change the origins of certain characters to better fit with a NEW story.
Franklin Storm is a secret SHIELD agent who's profession is a doctor. His mysterious death leads to Johnnys' irresponsible side as he never had a father to teach him right from wrong. Susan is a scientist (like Reed) as she wanted to go into a similar field of work as her late father. There mother was never home a lot as she had to work to take care of herself and the kids, so Susan is more like a mother figure to Johnny.

Reed and Susan work for Victor Von Doom at his company building in NYC. Reed and Susan are partners. Susan looks up to Reeds' intellect, smarts, and mindset as he is a genius. Reed favors Susan and has a crush on her.

Ben Grimm used to work with Reed Richards father as they were both test pilots for NASA. Reed's father died of some sickness when Reed was very young and Ben took over as a father figure to Reed.

Victor Von Doom is older than Reed, Johnny, and Susan, but around the same age as Ben.

Controversy between Reed and Doom plays in because Reed is jealous of Dooms wealth and his popularity among rival companies (Stark Industries and Hammer Tech?). Doom is also jealous of Reeds genius characteristics and how Susan is closer to Reed than himself.


- A more character driven story rather than just an action comic book movie.

- Show the true evolution of the powers rather than just getting them all at once (this can be throughout the movies).

- Instead of going the traditional, 'Dr. Doom is the final battle at the end of the movie', make it something viewers want to see. A Skrull.

- Show Dooms' transition from corrupt to fully evil from this movie to the next movie.

- Skip over Alicia Masters in this movie. I think it would be good to have been feel the true 'tragedy' of what he has come to, and have his journey be shown also. One of the things I didn't like about the old series is how he was mad then met Alicia as soon as his wife screwed him over.

- Connected to the MCU:
Nick Fury is present (in beginning of movie as a young SHIELD agent and end credits scene)
Stark Towers is present
The Avengers themselves aren't in it (possibly referenced to be on a mission in Wakanda?)
Takes place a few months after the Avengers (So people don't question why F4 didn't help)
SHIELD will actually help in a movie this time rather than just be on the sidelines watching


-Reed Richards is not the perfect leader. He has flaws. This will be shown by him truly stepping up as a REAL leader at the end of the movie (In a Captain America type way from the Avengers)

The characters get their powers because of a 'Space Expedition' funded by Victor Von Doom to discover more of the galaxies secrets after the world was introduced to the Chitauri invasion. This expedition leads to the characters getting affected by the cosmic blasts (potentially created by a future Avengers villain? Thanos potentially?)


Those are some KEY plot points I wanted to address before going into a mini-script for the movie. Now I will show you some of the script I wrote (NOTE: This is NOT a full script, this is just various ideas going on, this is no way my final ideas for a final script.)
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A man who appears to be a doctor is working very hard in a high-tech lab and receives a phone call from his children, Susan and Johnny who are wondering when he will be home. The man who is revealed to be Franklin Storm reassures them he will see them soon but gets off the phone in a hurry. The man scattering around runs to an operating table and lifts up the sheet and it appears to be some weird alien creature (which happens to be a Skrull which we would find out later) that seems to be dead. While operating with others on this creature, it starts to mutate and starts causing carnage all over, evidently killing Franklin Storm. Guards with high powered weaponry run into the room to attempt to take out the creature (which escapes) and a young Nick Fury tells them the situation is worse than it appears.

Flash Forward 20+ years:
NYC is somewhat destroyed since the Battle of the Chitauri has been over for 5-6 months. Two men named Reed Richards and Ben Grimm are going to a company building owned by billionaire Victor Von Doom. Reed expresses his fondness of Tony Stark as they stop at Stark Industries as they walk to work.

Victor confronts Reed about the expedition that is going to happen and also talks to Susan and Ben about it. (Susan and Reed are scientists that are there for samples of potential alien life forms or more, while Ben is known as one of the worlds best pilots and hired by Doom. Doom goes along so he sees everything first hand. Johnny 'tags' along. By tag along I mean sneaks onto the ship. This would show his irresponsible and hot headed manner as he thinks this would be a cool adventure. For those who like to nitpick, he would dress up as one of the crew and play along as a 'young intern scientist mentored by the great Reed Richards and Susan Storm'.)

While on the expedition the characters are affected by the cosmic blasts, and with all the mayhem going on a mysterious green creature manages to latch onto the ship and find a way in. When the characters land back on Earth, over time they figure out their bodies which are affected by the cosmic rays are reacting in a weird ways allowing them to do weird yet FANTASTICAL things.

Grimm was exposed more to the cosmic rays (a small meteor possibly hits a small part of the ship which affects a air filter which gives him enough time to get full on exposure before the emergency filters kick in?) he then transformers into the Thing.

Doom, jealous by yet ANOTHER thing Reed has over him, fires him in a jealous rage and Susan also as he realizes he has no chance with her. Reed struggles to find work along with Susan (Johnny being his irresponsible self is doing what he wants to please himself and others while Ben goes through his little side story). The two gather up enough money and support from other companies (Stark Industries and a little boost from SHIELD) to make their own company at the Baxter Building. Their company will be focused on the secrets of cosmic rays and other things as well. This becomes the HQ for the Fantastic Four (at this point they still aren't a team).

Throughout the story they would do heroic deeds and be known to the city as potential heroes. Remember that pesky alien Skrull that snuck its way onto the ship earlier? He's back. This Skrull would be the 'Final Battle' as it realizes the four have powers similar to its kind. With the Skrull causing damage throughout the city, the people of NY start losing faith in the four as they think it is them doing this to the city.

The four engage in a final fight but since they are somewhat of a dysfunctional team, they don't know how to stop this. Here Reed steps up as the leader we all know. As the battle between F4 and the Skrull continue, they realize they might not be powerful enough to stop this creature (Don't nitpick, remember in my plot points I said they evolve more over time and throughout the movies). Here SHIELD comes into play and helps the F4 defeat the Skrull. Reed finally realizing they can help the people of the world with these amazing powers comes to the term that, though they may be SLIGHTLY dysfunctional together, they are a team and he refers to himself as a new leader and to the people of NYC they are....The Fantastic Four.

In a mid-credits scene, Victor Von Doom is angered to see the success of Reed and the others. He gets so angry he manages to spark some sort of electricity field out of his body. We would then see his eyes go intro a menacing pose.


After the end credits, Reed is seen working on a little robot he has named H.E.R.B.I.E. (or even the FantastiCar) While working on this Susan interrupts him and tells him they have a visitor. Johnny and Ben and Reed who are watching and joking with each other while Reed works all look up to see a figure. We don't see the figure from the front, but from the back. All we see is a bald head, a black trenchcoat, and an eyepatch. The screen goes black and all you hear is:

"I would like to talk to you about the Avengers Initiative."

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If you have read it this far, or even skimmed I thank you VERY much. I know some of these ideas may seem lousy or amateur, but I had fun writing it, and I hope you as the reader had fun reading this. Please in the comments below give me feedback on what you liked and didn't like about my script.

Thank you once again!

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Advocate - 8/2/2012, 5:27 PM
Once again, I'm very fond of your idea. The details covered seem great. The sense I got, and you can take this if you want, from the first encounter with the Skrull is kind of similar to Alien. So eventually, in the Alien universe, tons of those suckers become a problem, but the first one was such a scary nuisance that is posed a great threat. Maybe if that was the treatment for that kind of experience, as the team's powers wouldn't manifest immediately and they would have to pretty much evade (after realizing its power) the Skrull's attack. Maybe this cosmic blast could reflect back on past Marvel films where it ties into an energy emission (we wouldn't know this) by a more powerful enemy (or ally) that sends one Skrull colliding into the ship. Since, in space, this blast would carry on kind of like a nebulae (perhaps?) the Skrull could be attacking the ship, causing different exposures of radiation to the members of the crew. To measure the radiation levels, I've always seen Thing's level at too high, Human Torch's at just right (as he can literally flip from one to the other), and Reed's, Sue's, and Doom's to be lower. Although argument could be made for Doom depending on his final appearance (whether he becomes completely metallic or what have you). I only mention this because these exposures, if measured realistically, could play into the Skrull encounter sequences that would build up the power obtainment.

From there it would be your "basic" coping with heroics, etc. while the Skrull is MIA. I actually think the Skrull could be briefly stunned or somehow subdued so that, while Reed studies him (something that could apply to a final fight, as well as more advancement in technology, perhaps?) Doom can show his corruption by setting the Skrull free. Just throwing the ideas around. This is when the team would be seen as heroes right before thought of as villains (causing what the Skrull is actually doing). And from there it becomes this search/battle that climactically finishes in everything you've listed. So for the latter part of the film it would be this CSI-styled feel, in my opinion.

And since it is supposed to include family exclusively, I'd say using a drama-styled Alien/CSI theme might serve your story well. I really understand the ideas behind the writer and I really hope this is something you choose to flesh out in time. The potential keeps building. But of course, like anything, never let that get to your head.

My only question is, does Marvel own the rights to FF? Or is it still under Fox? If it's still under Fox I'm not sure how much of the easter eggs you'd be able to include. For your sake, and the sake of this story's success, I would hope that Marvel gets the rights back. But if not, the SHIELD parts seem hard, especially Fury's presence. And the inclusion of the same universe the Avengers took place in would have to be implied, never stated. Those are small problems in comparison to the story's ability to reintroduce something. I've worked on (have been working on) plenty of story's that I would love to see adapted to the big screen, but alas they are either not congruent with existing interpretations or are far gone in a world full of big budget, big profit films. Still, stories are what give us creative writers juice. And we're always thirsty.
BigeBigzWells
BigeBigzWells - 8/2/2012, 6:05 PM
@Advocate
Once again you give amazing feedback. Thank you for reading the whole thing, I am glad you enjoyed it. I like a lot of your ideas, especially Reed experimenting on the Skrull. It would be a cool tribute to the beginning with Franklin Storm experimenting. I forgot to add in the script that it was going to be the same Skrull (maybe a facial defect like a scar on its eye from Franklins experimenting to make it stand out).

Also, going back to the Space Expedition, I originally made it where the ship was attacked, but I thought that would be to cliché. I also didn't know how the cosmic rays would be spread, but I like your idea of it being sent by an outside force. I like that idea a lot.

I still think the rights are owned by Fox which is unfortunate, but maybe a deal could be struck like the OsCorp Tower almost being in the Avengers. Maybe the companies could give the fan the movies we deserve!

I would also be really interested in reading a few of our stories. I would like to give it a read and give some feedback.

Once again thank you again my friend!
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95 - 8/2/2012, 6:30 PM
@Advocate Wow. That's a really conversation-starting comment. I like your thinking.
Advocate
Advocate - 8/2/2012, 7:08 PM
@BigeBizWells The additional Skrull connection sounds like a good way to explore Reed's origin and make it more monumental than just a randomized death, so that works well. Plus, maybe while Reed is studying the Skrull he not only learns tidbits of information that would assist in the final battle, but also a connection to the Skrull and his father (somehow?) I'm assuming via S.H.I.E.L.D. A facial defect seems subtle enough.

You're right about the cliche space attack, but maybe it could be more of a misunderstood attack? So the Skrull is blasted straight into the ship and punctures the exterior. All the creature is doing (or so it could be interpreted) is that it's trying to get out (emergency seal "locks" the Skrull inside?) and so it haphazardly wreaks havoc on the crew who treat the intruder as an assailant. That's my best spin on the cliche, "I'm going to attack this ship for no reason" cliche. If not, maybe the Skrull's encounter with the ship is what causes radiation exposure. And the more "Alien-esque" approach to a FF (perhaps this is how they discover their powers manifesting?) could happen in the Baxter Building? So the Skrull attacks and each member reacts to it in a way that would resemble their own power- Johnny would take it on headstrong without coming up with a game plan, Sue would try to hide (cue thriller suspense), Ben would try and protect his family perhaps getting tossed into a wall like a rag doll and miraculously surviving, and Reed (since he's not quite the leader until the end) doesn't necessarily come up with a game plan, but he studies the creature's habits from afar only to be interested in studying it, but seeking no means of action. One of the team's powers spontaneously manifests and stuns the Skrull leading into all the things I've mentioned earlier on.

Perhaps, since I know there's a lot of legalities with rights to certain stuff (barring that the studios don't ban together to give the fans the movies we deserve), these structures from the Marvel universe could be shown, but never explicitly stated. Similar to how in Thor the researcher mentions a colleague who worked with gamma radiation. If the rights to Bruce Banner didn't allow his name being mentioned, that's a perfect example of an easter egg without the official title. So funding could be given by an "anonymous benefactor apparently interested in investing in our endeavors" (S.H.I.E.L.D.) or "former weapons manufacturer and playboy" (Stark). Any way could ease your story around those minor problems. And since Fury's presence at the end is the back of him, you could even be more evasive and show a long black trenchcoat with military (?) slacks and black boots, only going up to the S.H.I.E.L.D. logo somewhere on his apparel and then cue the fading one-liner that would make everyone wet their seats. It's all very tricky, but I only bring this up as an alternative to your original ideas in the event your work transforms into an actual screenplay with the off chance it might be picked up by a studio not willing to collaborate with another studio, you can save the alternate sequences.

At the moment, I'm suspending my writing while I do some "soul searching." I'm trying to lock down a job in screenplay writing or some window of opportunity in that realm so all efforts are being put into that. And as of recent, my attention had been drawn to adapting a Justice League Universe that would be the foundation for a DCU, which I devoted a lot of writing to (prior to find out about DC's plan to actually go through with it) and since my set up is so drastic (not really, just true to the origins) I've got to reserve judgment and creative outlets until more is revealed. It would kind of suck to find out many of my strenuous nights of non-stop writing had already been thought of. I want my ideas to stand alone, in whatever manner, and I want them to be a huge benefit to the industry. And since everyone and their mother is tossing around those kinds of ideas, my efforts would be overlooked. Some times it's best to let everyone scramble while you take your time to plot accordingly. That's why I was never worried about DC not rivaling Marvel in theaters. There's always an opportunity to strike with improvement.

And oddly enough I find moments like these, collaborating with others on their work, to be quite inspirational and wholesome. While no one may seemingly achieve unheard of feats with the advice, I like to think that someday my words can make a difference. This kind of stuff is from the heart. My writing uses too much of my brain to be a daily thing (not that I wouldn't, I would just never interact with anyone). So feel free to contribute more or disclose other story ideas. I'm always here (at least I try to be) to review and offer guidance.
Advocate
Advocate - 8/2/2012, 7:11 PM
@BigeBizWells Oh, I almost forgot! The scar on the eye of the Skrull. Reed's father should at least do some damage to show the difference between the two. Reed's not a fighter, his father more so? So we would recognize the scar as being from Reed's father and therefore the Skrull being the same Skrull. Just a thought.
Advocate
Advocate - 8/2/2012, 7:12 PM
@95 Don't commend me (although this is not me rejecting your praise), @BigeBizWells was the one to spark my supplemental creativity. Without his brilliance in conducting such story elements I'd just be some annoying guys posting opinions.
BigeBigzWells
BigeBigzWells - 8/2/2012, 7:46 PM
@Advocate
I REALLY love the ideas you are contributing to help me with a cool script! I think they are very informative. I like your new idea of the Skrull unintentionally wreaking havoc among the ship, and how it is one of the reasons it gives the team it's powers. I really love it, especially how each of your descriptions is how the character truly is.

I think the Reed and Skrull 'relationship' if you want to call it could be a cool story line. Maybe the Skrull sees resemblance that Reed looks like the dad and he gets startled thinking its payback time, but Reed has no intentions of hurting it but the Skrull misunderstands.

I also like your idea of the subtle hints that it's connected to the MCU without directly showing it is. I literally laughed out loud when you wrote, 'make the audience wet their seats'. I think your idea is 100% better because if it's directly shown to you that everything is connected, the final end credits scene wouldn't make much of an impact opposed to it being a mystery. +100 for you!

And to your reply to @95, you wouldn't be 'some annoying guy posting his opinions', you'd be, 'the guy who helps give me inspiration to help me become a better creator and writer'.

;)
Advocate
Advocate - 8/2/2012, 9:28 PM
Haha @BigeBigzWells Well I'm glad you appreciate my creative suggestion. Feel free to post more thoughts on the story or message me in case the timeliness of this article fades into the abyss of past articles. I'd be glad to help clear the thoughts and refine whatever ideas you may have.

I do hope to see how these ideas flesh out over time as every contribution ends up building and building into something more powerful than before. The Reed/Skrull dynamic you mention would be an interesting subtlety once again. I can see the confused, almost frightful look on the Skrull's face to see a living ghost in Reed if you will. This only makes my thoughts on his misunderstood rampage more elaborate. See, if the Skrull assumes it is trapped and is initially trying to break free and the crew reacts differently, maybe the Skrull can respond to these reactions differently as well. So Johnny comes at him guns blazing and the Skrull rivals him in direct attack. Sue tries to be more stealthy and unnoticed so perhaps the Skrull either stalks her (which would seem "out-of-character") or is also trying to creepily move along, and the two just so happen upon each other. Sue gets scared, obviously (it's a Skrull, not a puppy) and the Skrull gets scared and continues wrecking. Ben would be the protector in that instance and so the Skrull might see him as a "wall" to "break" through. And then his encounter with Reed, having only watched the Skrull's actions intently, he would respond in the way mentioned above. Of course, this is only how I see each character reacting to the Skrull attack.

I almost forgot about Doom! I would say (depending on whether or not you decide to transform him into a metallic being or he just dons a mask and the like) he could try to save only himself by locking himself in a chamber of sorts where he can employ on-board firepower to try and subdue the creature. Perhaps this is what stuns the Skrull? But Doom's selfishness coupled with the rampage on an electronic interface (undoubtedly) maintaining Doom's protection could produce the radiation effect that creates Dr. Doom's ability. However, this thought is merely an afterthought and doesn't have as much process and application to it as the actual team's circumstance. I trust that your direction should send these character arcs on their proper course for the film. But like I said, feel free to shoot ideas back and forth. I'd prefer to work out any known kinks ahead of time that way you really get some time to sit down with your thoughts and pump out a great story.
BigeBigzWells
BigeBigzWells - 8/2/2012, 9:54 PM
@Advocate
This is definitely the tricky part of the whole script because of the whole Skrull/Cosmic Ray affecting the characters giving them their powers. I like the route you are suggesting, and to make it more realistic maybe the Skrull can 'sense' their feelings.

For example (many of this is what you said, I am just simplifying this and furthering it in detail a little more to others who might be reading this):

-Johnny attacks Skrull head on. Sensing his 'hot-headed' attitude the Skrull somehow manipulates that ability onto him via cosmic rays, and maybe Johnny gathering an immense pain throughout his body (perhaps a BURNING sensation... wow that was a shitty joke), collapses. I say his powers should take affect 'somewhat' immediately because, I think out of the Four he is the most powerful, and that is why he drops so fast.

-The Skrull approaches Susan and seeing her in a frightened stage, senses her, 'trying to get away and not be seen', and in a way, grants that with the cosmic power of turning invisible. The Skrull may feel if she wants to turn away and not appear or be seen from this problem, she can turn away from others in the ultimate way...not being there...Invisible.

-Ben tries protecting his friends and, like you said, seeing him as the bigger guy out of all the characters, sees him as the 'protector', and the 'rock wall' of this family. The Skrull and Ben may engage in a quick fight, and seeing his characteristic of being, 'strong enough to not back down', also allows him to earn the power of strength. Due to him being directly in contact with the Skrull, this gives more cosmic radiation off and that's what fully transforms him into Thing over time. To get the true feel of 'more' radiation affecting him, maybe the Skrull pins Ben across a wall and cosmic rays actually shoot into his body.

-During all this mayhem, maybe Reed was trying to calm everyone down on the ship saying it's scared and that's what's going on, and with everyone else fighting, he knows this creature isn't TRULY deliberately harming others. Sensing this, the Skrull sees how 'flexible' Reed is to the idea of violence and non-violence and this is what gives him his ability.

- Doom, afraid through all this going on, sees that he is potentially dead, and being the arrogant, selfish, billionaire he is, decides to hide in a 'metallic fortress'/cell in the ship. Sensing this from Doom, he might feel as if, 'you think you can hide behind this metal wall, now face your true problems behind a metal skin'. And that gives him his metallic appearance.

Once again, just like you, I'm just spouting out ideas about the powers, as that is pretty hard trying to come up with a somewhat realistic way without going to far beyond the realm of, 'complete and utter BS'.
BigeBigzWells
BigeBigzWells - 8/2/2012, 9:59 PM
@Advocate
I also thought I would add that since Ben had more cosmic radiation 'seep' into his body, that is why his full form is a Humanoid Rock figure. Since Johnny and Susan were merely 'touched' with this radiation, this allows them to turn on and off their respected powers. Sensing Reeds compassion towards the creature, maybe the Skrull felt that Reed didn't need a 'certain form' to be 'tortured' by, but towards Doom, that is a different story. Maybe the Skrull can physically hurt Doom (who was possibly trying to attack the Skrull if it breaks into the cell) and that's what gives him his metallic figure.
Advocate
Advocate - 8/3/2012, 10:17 AM
@BigeBigzWells Yeah, I think those sequences would be a good foreshadowing to the manifestation of their powers, but there's something I find...too simplistic, about the Skrull "granting" the powers. If anything, to show tension later on in the film, the Skrull should not be aware of the team's abilities. Because there'd be this dynamic where at first the Skrull was the most powerful, then he realizes the change and must change his game plan. Essentially it's a small example of what it feels like to be at the top of the food chain and suddenly find out you're not the big dog anymore.

Also, I guess I didn't interpret this as such, but physical contact with the Skrull is the radiation each one is exposed to? Not that it can't work, but I feel that might have some adverse plot holes if the Skrull is the catalyst in radiation then essentially its presence on Earth would result in more humanoid-like creations. I think what I was hinting at along the obtainment of their power was that while this outer space explosion of radiation occurs (resulting from a higher power), sending the Skrull toward the ship, a long-lasting aura radiates outside the ship. So long as the crew remains in certain compartments of the ship they should be fine, but the Skrull is the game-changer as it destroys parts of those safe zones at the same time the team responds individually to the happening (this would be a great example of how the FF aren't exactly a team yet, they don't work together). So I like the idea of having been in a small fight with the Skrull only to be pinned up against the wall, but perhaps it could be a glass wall (only cracking slightly, not breaking) where Ben would be exposed to the rays the most as he would have been held there. I agree with you that Johnny might be the strongest, but also the most hot-headed (duh) so it makes sense to have him charge at the Skrull, but he should come at him with some fancy "powerful" attack as to avoid the classic, almost cliche example of someone confronting a situation they don't know only to be taken out. And what better way to do this than for Johnny to find out that perhaps the Skrull is in a different compartment of the ship. This could be the lab on board, where Sue would have been trapped at the time at the collision. So Johnny runs to the lab, tossing caution to the wind as he attacks the Skrull with a chemical flame of some sort, to avert the Skrull's attention from Sue (a brother/sister dynamic slightly revealed). However, since Johnny ran through a hallway or something where the radiation was emitting, he was only exposed to a touch of radiation before being knocked out.

Johnny would have given Sue enough time to crawl into an air vent or something, to sneak away, but this could cue that suspenseful moment. And let's just say she ends up falling somehow into that same hallway Johnny ran through, where the Skrull would find her, just as Ben and Reed come to rescue her. She runs to Reed who observes as mentioned while Ben bravely walks into that hallway and fights the Skrull there, having been exposed the longest. Sue would run to safety as Reed would pull Ben out of the hallway, being exposed only briefly as well.

So now I'm trying to come up with a series in which they are all exposed. Doom is the biggest problem as I don't know if he should go first or last. If he goes first, then it makes sense to have the Skrull smash through the ship near Doom (just outside of the lab) where Doom activates his shielding to patch the hole, and instead of saving Sue he tries to save himself, which attracts the Skrull to Doom's metal room. The Skrull could try to break through the barrier and perhaps only crack or break a small hole in the metal shell (there would be a glass wall, originally) so that while Doom assumes he's safe from harm, radiation continues to pour into that room.

Then Sue would be presumed to be attacked first, but Johnny would intervene, falling second victim to the radiation.

Sue would fall third, being the only one in the midst of the "battle" to get away, which also reinforces her power.

Then Ben, fourth, as he would give Doom enough time to activate his electro canons (?) to take out the Skrull, which could happen at the very same time Reed goes into the hall to grab Ben. This would show the Skrull/Reed relationship as Reed's face and similarities to his father would cause the Skrull to hesitate ("as if he knew me (Reed)") giving Doom the perfect opportunity to fire and stun the Skrull.

So Reed would be fifth.

But if Doom were last, then 1) I'd find it more complicated to work in his misfortune and 2) the same situation would probably occur, only in reverse. And I guess 3) it'd be harder to work Doom's fate in after the climactic and somewhat frantic encounter with the Skrull (on behalf of the team).

Anyway, let me know what you think. I'm trying to work out all the holes that could be pointed out down the line so that the story development seems natural and believable (in spite of the sci-fi nature).
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