Just How Close WAS Green Lantern To Its Source Material?

Just How Close WAS Green Lantern To Its Source Material?

The following serves as a sort of guide for those who aren't familiar with the comics that 'inspired' the Green Lantern flick...

Editorial Opinion
By PaulRom - Jun 19, 2011 02:06 PM EST
Filed Under: Green Lantern



Note: FYI, I'm in no way a hater of the film (despite its flaws).

Earlier today, I was chatting online with a friend of mine who recently saw Green Lantern (and is a comic nerd), and she listed out some interesting points I haven't seen addressed here concerning how 'close' the film was to its 'source material', Secret Origins. Below is what she says...

Ryan Reynolds said in an interview that they were pretty much using the Secret Origins storyline from the comics -- obviously, it's Green Lantern's origin story -- as the script. This turned out to be total bullcrap.

First and foremost, Origins never even mentions Parallax, not once. The villain was Atrocitus, who was captured by Abin Sur, which is a whole 'nother thing...

IF they had really done their research for this movie, the writers would have read Alan Moore's story about how Abin Sur found himself on the planet Ysmault...Ysmault was where these creatures/demons called the Empire of Tears had been imprisoned by the Oans several millenia before. Abin Sur met a demon/creature called Qull of the Five Inversions, who predicted that Abin Sur would die when his ring ran out of power at a critical moment, which made Abin Sur paranoid enough to start using a spaceship on very long voyages and start recharging his ring more than necessary. And also he mentioned something about a forthcoming "Blackest Night," whatever that is...haven't found that story arc yet.

Years later, Abin Sur found himself going to Earth and, um, his ring and his spaceship were rendered useless because apparently Earth's got this yellow radiation ring around it. The jist was that if he hadn't stopped relying solely on his ring, he might have used it to check for the radiation ring beforehand.

SO, back to Secret Origins. The reason Abin Sur was headed for Earth was because he had captured another demon/creature from Ysmault called Atrocitus of the Five Inversions, and that he'd gotten this idea in his head -- probably from his questioning of the Five Inversions back on Ysmault -- that Earth was where this "Blackest Night" would start. As you can probably guess, he's more than a bit afraid, which his friend and fellow Lantern Sinestro warns him to remedy before going any further. Before that little problem can be fixed, Atrocitus breaks free of his holding tank and fatally wounds Abin Sur and escapes as the ship crashes -- in the DESERT, not a SWAMP, I might add.

The ring finds Hal Jordan, all goes as according to the story except for the random glasses guy. What was up with him, anyway? o3o

Was Parallax mentioned at all in the above storyline? No.

Oh, and by the way, Jordan's uniform wasn't supposed to have the Green Lantern logo on it until after he completed boot camp. Which isn't one-on-one with Kilowog, anyway. Grr.

Meanwhile, Hector Hammond is going pretty much exactly as planned, except that he gets all big-headed because of a meteor fragment in Abin Sur's ship, not because of Parallax.

Um. Yeah. So you can guess how well the movie follows the book from there. >_>

They never mentioned Hal's childhood beyond his father's plane crash -- and they even got that wrong -- his family pretty much had a cameo, and the relationship between Hal and Carol was never supposed to have anything between when they were kids and just before Hal got the ring.

Sinestro was supposed to be Hal Jordan's mentor, not some random pink pointy-eared alien who hated him! Sinestro and Abin Sur were friends, so he takes it upon himself to teach Hal how to properly be a Lantern and to help him when Atrocitus attacks Earth.

Parallax isn't a Guardian that got corrupted; it's Hal Jordan's evil alter-ego. I'm not kidding; in one storyline, Jordan goes crazy and turns briefly to the Dark Side. It does turn into a parasite that affects other people.

The biggest thing, though, was that they forgot to mention that hey! the rings are powerless against the color yellow! GRR. Whenever the Lanterns are confronted with anything yellow, they have to use other resources to defeat whatever they're fighting. Kind of IMPORTANT to mention your WEAKNESSES, guys.


So yeah, I decided to post this because I haven't seen anyone talk about how far Green Lantern is from Secret Origins, which is supposedly the book that inspired the film the most. It seems like most people are worried about the quality of the script and acting, but I've never heard a complaint about how far the movie was from its source material.
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ultimatefan1974
ultimatefan1974 - 6/19/2011, 2:38 PM
I mentione the family dynamic, which I think affected the movie a lot more than most of the stuff that´s mentioned. I can accept that a movie version mixes and condenses some of the comics, but the movie fails in what gives SO a strong emotional arc.
marvel72
marvel72 - 6/19/2011, 2:40 PM
i can except slight changes to the story,but it should of been closer to the source material.

geoff johns was co producer there is no excuse.
Peteyparker
Peteyparker - 6/19/2011, 3:46 PM
Dude Parallax is the name of the Entity of Fear. Whenever he possesses a body it's not Hal Jordan Parallax....ITS JUST PARALLAX!! It's possible that the Poop monster was just Parallax possessing a guardian.

He's possessed Hal, Kyle, and Flash (Barry) (From my limited knowledge of reading all of the Geoff John's run of the series)
Hellsing
Hellsing - 6/19/2011, 5:33 PM
@peteyparker well originally parallax was just the alter ego of Hal Jordon when he went all darth vader and turned to the dark side. Johns retconned that with Secret Origins where it was parasite and in the film Parallax is not an entity of fear he's thing that looks like diarrhoea that was guardian.
BarnaclePete
BarnaclePete - 6/19/2011, 5:56 PM
They never said it was based on Secret Origin, just that it was used as a reference. A lot of this stuff mentioned really doesn't matter. Who cares if the ship crashes in a swamp instead of a desert? Having the logo on his chest before the training doesn't matter either. The random glasses guy was Thomas "Pieface" Kalmaku. He has been a character in Green Lantern comics since the 60's and is in secret Origin. The rings wouldn't be powerless against yellow because Parallax isn't inside the power battery. That is was caused the yellow impurity. In the movie he is free so the rings would have no problem with yellow. I agree the movie does have it's issues, just that these aren't any of them.
vermillion
vermillion - 6/19/2011, 7:31 PM
Yeah these slight changes are nothing to be complaining about really. This is nitpicking.

The film just needed better execution. Pacing wasn't good. Needed better direction and script. I hope for a sequel, not looking too good though.

I enjoyed the movie. It makes me think of Spider-Man 1 in a way.
duncboy
duncboy - 6/19/2011, 7:40 PM
I definitely came out of the movie pleasantly surprised. The reviews were pretty rough, but they were accurate in some areas. There was mixed reception of each actor/actress in their roles, but I found none of the main characters/actors out of place - really, I only didn't like Mr.Ferris and Tim Robbin's character. The main issue was definitely in the story, script, and editing (hard to explain this last one without giving anything away in the movie, but you'll get it once you see it). Overall, I'd give it a solid B and will probably see it again.
vermillion
vermillion - 6/19/2011, 7:46 PM
My second viewing was more enjoyable, that's for sure. Everybody in the audience laughed at the funny parts, overall a good vibe in the theater when it ended. (It was pretty good at the midnight showing too, even though I was disappointed.)

EarOne
EarOne - 6/19/2011, 8:21 PM
hmmm...that's interesting to know SINCE the author of Secret Origins, GEOFF JOHNS (isn't it?) is WB's creative head, who's got a LOT of say in this project, so...i don't think it's the four writers' entire fault at play here. in addition, you got a ol' professional director who's not that familiar with this genre (doing action doesn't necessarily mean he can do sci-fi or fantasy stuff).

oh, and "Parallax isn't a Guardian that got corrupted; it's Hal Jordan's evil alter-ego. I'm not kidding; in one storyline, Jordan goes crazy and turns briefly to the Dark Side. It does turn into a parasite that affects other people." No kidding...and guess WHO came up with the idea of turning Parallax into this yellow parasite creature thing??? GEOFF JOHNS, the genius.

i bet he just wants to shove his supposedly bright idea of returning Hal's hero image that he'd offer the writers to use PARALLAX, the PARASITE, as the main villain, instead. but, y'know what's funny? how they would change/simplify the idea of parallax the monster into a fiery cloud thing (much like the much-hated Galactus, in FF: RofSS). why DC seems to like either copy or hijack ideas/talents from Marvel is just BEYOND me. and everytime they do this, it always ends up disastrously (Superman Returns, Catwoman and now, this, GL).
Peteyparker
Peteyparker - 6/19/2011, 9:24 PM
@EarOne Not that i'm arguing against your point (although when i ask question people think im being arrogant). Could you explain the Superman Returns thing. It just peeked my interest
AstonishingSpiderMan
AstonishingSpiderMan - 6/19/2011, 9:30 PM
Don't know Much bout GL the comics but it wasn't as bad as the critics made it seem
sonofsamadams
sonofsamadams - 6/19/2011, 9:52 PM
I GUARUNTEE you that the director's cut will be better
CrossOver
CrossOver - 6/19/2011, 10:05 PM
Honestly, all they needed to do to make this EPIC, was include the Secret Origins storyline in the movie. It would add about 30-45 mins making it 150 min movie, but it would be AMAZING. This wouldve helped add depth to Sinestro and be easier to lead up to more movies, you show William Hand, Atrocitus, Sinestro showing how he is the best, then it would lead up to him getting the yellow ring. If they did that, sooo many people wouldve been blown away, almost close to how great The Dark Knight was. In my opinion of course.
AreTudaEDub
AreTudaEDub - 6/20/2011, 10:17 AM
I want a reboot/sequel like "the Incredible Hulk" (better of course). Directed by the Wachowski Brothers with a Jonathan Nolan screenplay. Weta on sfx. They would have to used Kyle Rayner, set it slightly in the future, and briefly cover how he is the last Green Lantern. The sequel would be an adaption of Rebirth....and if later they beside to do it, make prequels if the want to get into back story (in the same vain as first class). YOU WOULD NOT GO WRONG!!!!!

Dmon
Dmon - 6/20/2011, 5:22 PM
Man if you don't know about Thomas "Pieface" Kalmaku then you really shouldn't be writing about the Green Lantern Mythos. And the plain white circles on recruits is a Geoff Johns Retcon thing. At least do some research first.
Dmon
Dmon - 6/20/2011, 5:27 PM
@WittySupername Maybe in the pacing or something but Green Lantern is the opposite of Batman. He is not dark at all nor does he have a stick up is butt like Batman.
odie00
odie00 - 6/20/2011, 6:59 PM
umm yeah it didnt follow secret origin at all really, i was really expecting atrocitus also. i saw interviews with both mark strong and ryan reynolds saying they were using that storyline, mark strong even had a copy of the graphic novel in his hand has he was talking. there was soo much wrong with this movie im not even gonna say what, definitely wouldnt be surprised if they did reboot or continue at all with it.
Dmon
Dmon - 6/20/2011, 8:02 PM
@WittySupername well he is cocky, has a problem with authority, does crack jokes, a womanizer, reckless especially when he was young, and has had alcohol problems. Kind of reminds me of Tony Stark.

CaptainPresley
CaptainPresley - 6/21/2011, 9:25 AM
It was inspired by "Secret Origins" not an adaptation of it. Look at all the things in "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight" that were not part of the comics. They are great films, but I never heard this much outcry from fans about those films. I think GL took parts from the entire history of the character of Hal not just one story/interpretation.
There are better CBM's but most are not as much fun as this film.
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