THE INCREDIBLE HULK Director Reveals Surprising Reason He Believes Edward Norton Fell Out With Marvel

THE INCREDIBLE HULK Director Reveals Surprising Reason He Believes Edward Norton Fell Out With Marvel

We know Edward Norton had a major falling out with Marvel Studios following the release of The Incredible Hulk, and Louis Leterrier has now weighed in on why he feels their relationship broke down.

By MarkCassidy - Nov 06, 2023 04:11 PM EST
Filed Under: The Incredible Hulk

It's common knowledge that The Incredible Hulk star Edward Norton had a pretty big falling out with Marvel Studios chief Kevin Feige eitther during production or after the movie's release (which is why Mark Ruffalo was ultimately cast in the role of Bruce Banner in The Avengers), and some more details on what exactly led to the bad blood have now come to light.

Norton has previously revealed that he wanted a more serious tone, and laid out his an idea for a two-film arc that would have been a lot darker than the movie we ended up with.

“What Chris Nolan had done with Batman was going down a path that I aligned with: long, dark and serious,” Norton told The New York Times in 2019. “And they were like, ‘That’s what we want!’ As it turned out, that wasn’t what they wanted.”

During a recent watch-along of The Incredible Hulk on Happy Sad Confused, director Louis Leterrier revealed that he shared Norton's opinion that the movie should be a little more serious, but this wasn't the only thing that the actor and Marvel Studios disagreed on.

"Frankly, it’s maybe [because of the soundtrack],” said the filmmaker. “I don’t remember if it was the teaser or the overall soundtrack, but Edward is great friends with Thom Yorke and he wanted Radiohead to do the music and that was genius, but we know what Radiohead sounds like and I think Marvel was pushing for a little bit more of a typical Hollywood soundtrack and we thought a compromise, not a compromise, but the elegant in-between was to find [composer] Craig Armstrong who had worked with Massive Attack to create a soundtrack which is haunting.”

Leterrier added that, in Norton's version of the script, the Green Goliath didn't actually make an appearance until 40 minutes in, which was never going to fly with the studio.

“You don’t wanna wait for the Hulk and look at your watch and think, ‘When is the Hulk coming?’” Leterrier noted. “You want to love the movie with Bruce banner and everyone else and actually fear the moment when the Hulk arrives. So you have this dichotomy of these two movies that are fighting with each other And the only way to do with it is a great script and frankly, amazing, actors, so you cast the hell out of it, so you cast actors who really clash well on screen, and seemingly don’t like each other, because that works really well, you bring the tension. And William Hurt , gives you that.”

Leterrier finishes up by stating that he loved working with Norton, and was "surprised" when he was told that he wuld not be returning as the Hulk.

“I don’t know if he thinks I was part of the other guys... whatever. I was neutral. I was literally like, let’s just make the best movie possible, and even after he was gone I was asking him what he thought about some ideas, so I just wanted him to be proud of this movie.”

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Spike101
Spike101 - 11/6/2023, 4:03 PM
Such a shame as Norton was so much better as Banner
hainesy
hainesy - 11/6/2023, 4:07 PM
@Spike101 - Perhaps, but Ruffalo made it his own and worked very well with the rest of the cast. I'm not sure Norton would have done that.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 11/6/2023, 4:21 PM
@hainesy - I liked him in Avengers but Ruffalo's Bruce/Hulk just became more like Ruffalo, same thing with Hemsworth's Thor.
Matchesz
Matchesz - 11/6/2023, 4:25 PM
@hainesy - the point is for him not to have done well with the rest of the cast? He’s the Hulk, a conflicted character. If maybe one character wasnt cracking jokes all the time these movies would be more interesting
Omario
Omario - 11/6/2023, 8:51 PM
@hainesy - yeah I don't see Norton deferring and with ensembles and a growing universe, i dont think thay would've worked for him
McMurdo
McMurdo - 11/6/2023, 9:49 PM
@HashTagSwagg - Ruffulo hasn't been good in the role since 2012. But he can act I think the issue is mostly in the writing
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 11/6/2023, 4:08 PM
Cause Norton is known to be hard to work with?
Itwasme
Itwasme - 11/6/2023, 7:21 PM
@MCUKnight11 - I was thinking this. His reputation at the time was exceptionally low, especially after that Ben Stiller movie about the Priest and the Rabbi.
hainesy
hainesy - 11/6/2023, 4:10 PM
One of my favorite parts of the Incredible Hulk was how they skipped the origin story and instead had flashbacks that were reminiscent of the Incredible Hulk TV show with Bill Bixby and Lou Ferrigno. Like the gamma chair and all that. You didn't need to see the Hulk until the scene at the university.
LogansRazor
LogansRazor - 11/6/2023, 4:33 PM
@hainesy - 👍,they did it well, too
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 11/6/2023, 4:19 PM
Norton was best Hulk and Terrence Howard was a better Rhodey
Fogs
Fogs - 11/6/2023, 4:23 PM
As much as I dislike the comedy excesses of recent Marvel, I don't think everything should be "dark and gritty".

That's a very shallow view imo.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 11/6/2023, 4:33 PM
@Fogs - the problem is forcing jokes, or undercutting serious moments with a poop joke
mountainman
mountainman - 11/6/2023, 4:34 PM
@Fogs - Everything certainly doesn’t, but it does fit the Hulk. He’s quite a tortured and dark character for the most part.
Fogs
Fogs - 11/6/2023, 5:00 PM
@bobevanz - totally agreed
Fogs
Fogs - 11/6/2023, 5:01 PM
@mountainman - yeah. But see, even TWS has some minor jokes. Writing a good one that fits the moment and overall theme is an art.
mountainman
mountainman - 11/6/2023, 5:27 PM
@Fogs - Oh yeah agreed. Very serious movie with heavy themes where humor was used well. Humor can and probably should be in a Hulk movie as well. Even the DK trilogy had humor in places.

It’s not that it should be absent, just not used in a way that takes away from more serious moments. I swear the cancer jokes in Love and Thunder infuriated me.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 11/6/2023, 7:39 PM
@mountainman - I think about how Nolan used humor in TDK.

Batman and Rachel fall 40 stories and land on a car - a fall that would definitely kill them both, but they are literally 100% fine.

Rachel turns to Batman and says "let's not do that again." It's a one-liner and tbh a terrible one. But what it does is diffuse the situation so no one questions the fall, or that the Joker and his people are upstairs with the wealthiest people in Gotham and do nothing about it. Or that Batman has them in the building and doesn't try to step them when they come downstairs. I mean the whole scene makes zero sense, nut no one cared because of that bad joke. It's disarming and that's all they needed.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 11/7/2023, 4:13 AM
@bobevanz - Yeah, the forced jokes feel….forced. When it happens naturally in the story it humanizes the characters and grounds them in the world (I’m thinking of a few moments in Age of Ultron: “Language” and the banter at the Avengers tower party).

When it’s forced it takes you out of the story and is kind of like a fourth wall break, asking the audience, “heh heh, get it‽”
bobevanz
bobevanz - 11/6/2023, 4:30 PM
The suits are giving their "final offer" lmao see you in January asshats
https://variety.com/2023/biz/news/sag-aftra-responds-last-best-final-1235781650/
mountainman
mountainman - 11/6/2023, 4:51 PM
@bobevanz - No details in the article. Are the studios not bending to the AI demand or is it the residuals issue that the union is holding out on?
LogansRazor
LogansRazor - 11/6/2023, 4:30 PM
Thos gramer eras are killing me dude!!
Comicmoviejunki
Comicmoviejunki - 11/6/2023, 5:19 PM
@LogansRazor - 🤣🤣🤣
LogansRazor
LogansRazor - 11/6/2023, 4:32 PM
Hulk can't show up at 40 mins in, but I do like the idea of a darker tone, rather than the green tone they went with. Still, one of my favorite MCU movies. I always thought, "That is a Hulk I can see fighting Wolverine, the right way."
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 11/6/2023, 4:46 PM
It worked out for the best. If Marvel would've been following DC's success then they'd probably be in DC's shoes right now chasing Marvel
ThorArms
ThorArms - 11/6/2023, 4:47 PM
The film was already pretty serious in comparison to other Marvel films. The Hulk is not the Dark Knight no matter what way you try to spin it.
GodHercules20
GodHercules20 - 11/6/2023, 4:49 PM
You can't do much with the Hulk, he works better as a supporting character. EMH did just that and did it better than MCU version

FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 11/6/2023, 5:09 PM
@GodHercules20 - All the great solo Hulk comic stories would disagree with you. I think the problem simply is that is easier to find a balance between "Banner doesn't want to turn into the Hulk" and "the audience is here to see some Hulk action" in an ongoing series, like a comic, than in a 2 hours long movie.
JonC
JonC - 11/6/2023, 6:57 PM
@GodHercules20 - i disagree... what is hard with hulk is he is essentially a silent actor...he has to emote everything you want the audience to understand about him.... not unlike silent film or casting a mute as a lead.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/6/2023, 4:58 PM
Thought the movie was perfectly dark and gritty. Definitely didn't feel as comedic as pretty much every other MCU movie.

But yeah, you don't wanna see Hulk too late into the movie. Part of the appeal of the character is the monster part and that he's this monster that wants to be left alone. That's even more tragic than Bruce not wanting to turn into the monster
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 11/6/2023, 5:00 PM
I think 40 minutes it pushing it but could have worked, especially if the final fight was even longer.
What’s funny is that, Avengers essentially did what Norton wanted but delaying the reveal of the hulk to the point of it being a very scary reveal, building up tension like crazy, and it worked.
RitoRevolto
RitoRevolto - 11/6/2023, 5:12 PM
They really dropped the ball on both Banner and Hulk. I hate they never played up the Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde angle more. Whedon was the only one to do it in the first Avengers, then they decided to make Banner and Hulk into comedic reliefs. Shameful.
JonC
JonC - 11/6/2023, 6:56 PM
@RitoRevolto - he was only jekyll and hyde due to loki... otherwise he was intelligent and got along well... when tony told him to suit up, he could be counted on.
Highflyer
Highflyer - 11/6/2023, 6:02 PM
Ngl, I want a 4k version of most of the deleted scenes. Especially the therapy scene with samson or when Bruce started crying because he hadn't laughed in such a long time. I honestly think the key to a good Hulk story is when you make Bruce as just (if not more) instresting as the Hulk. Hav
PartyKiller
PartyKiller - 11/6/2023, 6:20 PM
The Incredible Hulk TV series routinely went 30 minutes before the Hulk appeared. Superman The Movie did not show Superman until 59 minutes in. Batman Begins didn't show Batman for 62 minutes.

Studio-Man Feige had the Hulk first appear in the 2008 movie only 23 minutes in.
Armpitwebs
Armpitwebs - 11/6/2023, 6:25 PM
My Mr. Fixit pitch:
Over his next 2-3 appearances, Smart Hulk incrementally starts becoming more and more conniving, disgruntled and manipulative (all as his skin subtly drifts from green to gray.)
Then, in Act-2 of his 3rd appearance there’s a big pushback blowup fight from the other heroes and Hulk bolts, gone from the third act of that movie.
Then gradually bring in Mr. Fixit via rumors of a dangerous new force.
By then they can feature the new MCU (short, stocky) Wolverine and/or The Thing in the new Hulk movie.
You’re welcome!
JonC
JonC - 11/6/2023, 7:01 PM
@Armpitwebs - i could see the following happen... hulk is hulk due to banner's emotional control, or lack there of... in becoming smart hulk he essentially overrode that function of hulk... but more than likely he will revert to it and be more so to balance it out until he normalizes again. this is where you can tell more banner backstory and why he is so angry and how its engrained in him. this is how he becomes an enemy that you can't kill because he is also a friend... and some will try to kill him while others try to protect him.... all this without having to brainwash him such as scarlet witch did or loki did.
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 11/6/2023, 6:27 PM
LSHF
LSHF - 11/6/2023, 7:13 PM
And for those who don't like Radiohead, then that would suck, as there would be less variety in the music.
WEAPONXOXOXO
WEAPONXOXOXO - 11/6/2023, 7:53 PM
“You want to love the movie with Bruce banner and everyone else and actually fear the moment when the Hulk arrives."
YES! This is sooooo true! This guy gets it. And there was some of that in the first Avengers movie. Even the the second. I wasn't happy that Iron Man beat the Hulk. But whatever. After that the Hulk has become a joke.
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