THE INCREDIBLE HULK Writer Reveals Some Of The Bizarre Changes Edward Norton Made To The 2008 Movie

THE INCREDIBLE HULK Writer Reveals Some Of The Bizarre Changes Edward Norton Made To The 2008 Movie

The Incredible Hulk writer Zak Penn has reflected on seeing lead star Edward Norton make a series of sweeping changes to the screenplay and shares how that proved ton be a detriment to the final act...

By JoshWilding - Nov 13, 2023 07:11 AM EST
Filed Under: The Incredible Hulk

When Marvel Studios launched the MCU, it had to put up the rights to many of its Avengers as collateral to the bank. Luckily, Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk were successful enough to pay the loan off, though the latter was viewed as the safe bet at the time. 

Ultimately, Iron Man grossed $585 million and earned widespread acclaim. The Jade Giant's big screen return, on the other hand, suffered from issues behind the scenes and received tepid reviews along with a disappointing $264 million global haul. 

Talking in the MCU: The Reign of Marvel Studios book, The Incredible Hulk writer Zak Penn reflected on Bruce Banner actor Edward Norton's decision to start making changes to the script, revealing just how petty those changes were (he also suggests it was done so Norton could get a WGA credit on the project). 

"I had him walking east down the street wearing a blue hat and now he’s walking west down the street wearing a red hat," Penn recalls. "And I had named his downstairs neighbor Lorina, and he changed it to Malina or something."

"There was some stuff at the end that he really changed. I had a scene where, when Ross picked Banner up from the hospital earlier in the movie, he throws him out of the helicopter. It was a pretty shocking moment. They moved that to a moment when he chooses to jump into Harlem."

"So that’s a big difference: I felt like [the original version] would have been a really cool scene," the writer adds, "and I didn’t totally understand why he would jump out into Harlem, given that he could theoretically kill a lot of people."

Norton got his credit, but not the movie he wanted. In post-production, many of the changes he'd made were scrapped (The Hulk not showing up until 40 minutes into the movie, for example) and that's why he largely refused to promote the blockbuster when it rampaged into theaters. 

Marvel Studios, unhappy with how he'd conducted himself, publicly fired Norton and later announced that Mark Ruffalo would take over the role in The Avengers. He's been playing the character ever since and most recently showed up in She-Hulk: Attorney at Law

Due to complicated distribution issues with Universal Pictures, The Hulk has yet to star in his own solo project but rumours persist that we'll see him take centre stage in a World War Hulk project somewhere down the line. 

What are your thoughts on The Incredible Hulk 15 years later? 

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Bokis
Bokis - 11/13/2023, 7:49 AM
Such an underrated movie. Really like the raw feel of it. Some of the Phase 1 stuff feels really refreshing and tactile compared to Phase 4 (and even some of Phase 2 and 3)
OleBobbyTiger
OleBobbyTiger - 11/13/2023, 8:29 AM
@Bokis - Rewatching some of the early stuff recently and a lot of it is better than I remember. I really enjoyed the rewatch of IM2, but I remember at the time thinking it felt too overstuffed.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/13/2023, 9:12 AM
@Bokis - Absolutely agree. I'm a huge Superman guy but previously Superman Returns came out and was a huge disappointment. I loved Routh in the role but this film just went off the rails. I've always said if they kept the film the same but Lex Luthor created Metallo and they could throw down on that weird Kryptonite growing land mass then the film would have done WAY BETTER. .

I say all that because the Incredible Hulk was the first comicbook movie I felt that had an appropriate, dang good fight at the end while studying the character of Bruce Banner. I love the film.

Oh, and whomever said this film was a throw-back to Bruce Banner; this film is a straight-up respectful film to the work of Lou F. and Dr. David Banner. Have no idea why he was called David instead of Bruce, but that show was all kinds of awesome....especially the TV movies.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 11/13/2023, 11:12 AM
@RoberTiger -
IM 2 is a fun movie. The Black Widdow intro is awesome and Sam Rockwell slays every scenen he's in.
OleBobbyTiger
OleBobbyTiger - 11/13/2023, 11:21 AM
@Goldboink - It holds up now better than it did then. The darker aspects with Tony's character really add some depth and development that is missing from some of the more recent stuff.

Scarjo kicked ass in that movie too. That's my favorite version of Black Widow.
RolandD
RolandD - 11/13/2023, 12:16 PM
@lazlodaytona - not that long ago I read that Kenneth Johnson, who was the show runner on the show thought that the alliteration of Bruce Banner sounded a little too comic booky. Supposedly Stan Lee agreed with him on that. Back in the day, Lee did that with almost all of the heroes, that he created, Peter Parker, Matt, Murdock, Steven Strange, etc.
EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 11/13/2023, 12:34 PM
@Bokis - 😑 Here we go.
The1st
The1st - 11/13/2023, 12:57 PM
@Bokis - Probably the best Hulk action, savage no less, we've seen on screen.
The1st
The1st - 11/13/2023, 12:59 PM
@lazlodaytona - Italmost like it was what Superman Returns tried to be. Just enough tv show flavor and none of the BS the Returns film had.
RedSheep
RedSheep - 11/13/2023, 1:51 PM
@lazlodaytona - I love how South Park parodied the climax fight in 2018, which is 10 years after The Incredible Hulk was released.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/13/2023, 6:40 PM
@RolandD - ok. Thanks for letting me know that sir. Appreciate your kindness.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/13/2023, 6:57 PM
@RedSheep - but see the South Park parody of the brutal fight scene!

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best movie fight EVER.

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RolandD
RolandD - 11/13/2023, 7:16 PM
@lazlodaytona - You got it. I do get into the trivia.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/14/2023, 4:45 AM
@The1st - i definitely agree sir
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/14/2023, 5:06 AM
@RolandD - website question:

Is there a reason why I received 7 messages from you to link to the exact same thing?

Not blaming you; just am dumbfounded.
RolandD
RolandD - 11/14/2023, 8:11 AM
@lazlodaytona - None that I know of I received two from your comment.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/14/2023, 11:53 AM
@RolandD - ok. sorry i somehow caused some confusion.
RolandD
RolandD - 11/14/2023, 12:52 PM
@lazlodaytona - I think the site’s software sometimes causes the confusion.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/14/2023, 2:45 PM
@RolandD - yup. have another ton of messages from u I know aren't directly from you.

I'm sorry I have been bugging you sir.
HammerLegFoot
HammerLegFoot - 11/13/2023, 7:49 AM
Wonder what it would have been like if Norton stayed on.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/13/2023, 9:16 AM
@HammerLegFoot - worse. he's an amazing actor but a total ego-maniac. and he doesn't even look the part. No dark hair is the number one thing.
I digress. I still absolutely love this film. It's just glad Norton didn't come back; so he could be in another Wes Anderson artsy film again.
TREE24K
TREE24K - 11/13/2023, 11:28 AM
@lazlodaytona - Really? I think he looks more like comic-accurate Bruce Banner than anyone else who has played him. Bruce's hair was always brown in the comics but not so dark that Norton's natural was a throw off. I think Ruffalo's hair is too dark for Bruce.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/13/2023, 5:57 PM
@TREE24K - I can't argue. you are totally correct.
It would have been more epic is Norton was on that stage with the rest of the Avengers.
The banter alone between Norton and RdJ would have been epic.
HammerLegFoot
HammerLegFoot - 11/13/2023, 7:50 AM
I will also like to add Captain America: The First Avenger. I gave it a 6 out of 10
Forthas
Forthas - 11/13/2023, 7:58 AM
The last change about jumping out of the helicopter I think was the better way to go. I think Norton was the best Bruce Banner and the Incredible Hulk is the second most underrated comic book film after Man of Steel. But I support Marvel's decision to recast...Norton needed to be a team player above all else.
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 11/13/2023, 8:59 AM
@Forthas - I think they need that moment of him choosing to be the Hulk even at his own peril. That's what makes him our hero.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/13/2023, 9:25 AM
@Forthas - It's weird too me too. Norton played the best Bruce but Eric Bana looked way more the part.
I don't know. Ruffalo does a great job but what Marvel has done to the character as smart-hulk is ridiculously stupid. I don't care if that happens in the comics or not.

There are just some things from the books/comics that just can't be translated to the big screen.

Bring the rage back with THE HULK
Forthas
Forthas - 11/13/2023, 12:06 PM
@lazlodaytona - I agree with everything except Bana looking more the part. He brought the most tragedy to his role. But overall I think Norton nailed the look and feel of Bruce Banner.
Forthas
Forthas - 11/13/2023, 12:09 PM
@MosquitoFarmer -

EXACTLY!!!

At certain moment he needs to come to terms with the Hulk and the good that his power can have.
lazlodaytona
lazlodaytona - 11/13/2023, 6:00 PM
@Forthas - I will concede and agree ... i love your wisdom (and absolutely no sarcasm in that statement)
Forthas
Forthas - 11/13/2023, 6:04 PM
@lazlodaytona - Thanks my friend. You have yourself a great day!!!!
AllsGood
AllsGood - 11/13/2023, 7:59 AM
Norton is wrong in the Hulk comics Bruce Banner is a Blue hat wearer not Red. Bruce Banner is a man of science and Anti-Military he would never wear a Red Hat.




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