Has Iron Man lost its edge?

What are you talking about? Your saying Iron man should be more violent?...He's not supposed to be he's a man in a suit of technologically advance weaponry fighting villains in different suits of armor also. He's not like Wolverine whose main gimmick is that he kills people. The fact that your comparing these 2 characters in such manner is laughable. I can understand where they are using robots to do their dirty work because they have the resources and knowledge of not hiring a soldiers to wear them because one could in theory go rouge and sell the armor to enemy powers. Whiplash is obviously gonna be loyal to Hammer because they have they same motive.

As for Tony killing people in the first one. During his walk out through the cave he was basically bouncing bullets and punching dudes. One guy is shown dying by his own bullet bouncing off the armor. Also he was burning all the munitions and weapon stock piles. The only people he really killed was during the March 3 trials and that was only because they held hostages, he wasn't doing it for fun.

Also for the drones, dude your thinking way to realistically. This is a MOVIE not the real world. Its believable that these machines and armor can be done IN FILM but in the real world, we're nowhere near this kind of tech. Just like in WANTED bullets can't curve in the real world but in the movie world they can. You need to disconnect the logic part of the brain when watching a comic book movie.

Also for the Wolverine game, it was taking so many liberties than the movie. They were allowed to go crazy and have fun when developing the game. They followed some of the beats from the movie but stuff in the game couldn't have been done in the game due to budgetary reasons, script, or believability.

Comparing Marvel to DC is also another harder thing. Marvel heroes are people who became heroes because they were outcasts already and chose to do good rather than evil. DC heroes are about stopping crime and villainy with the least amount of casualties. These world and characters are vastly different in certain areas in terms of Heroics. Whenever a Marvel character does something they tend to look for a vice to clear their mind of the stress and weariness of being a hero(Stark's vice is alcohol)

I'm not too worried about what's planned for Captain America, we know from the script and hints of the film that he won't be a fighter at first. I'm sure he's gonna rely more on his Shield, rather than firearms. You gotta realize that somethings are gonna be altered to fit the Mainstream audience. Studios know its hard to please not only fanboys but mainstream. The appeal towards one greatly affects the other. The whole point of these films is to find the perfect balance. Surprising you didn't mention Thor when his background involves War on a daily basis, I'm sure they are gonna focus more on the fantasy rather than the violent nature.

Basically, your complaint is that you want to see more people killed. There was tons of killing in the first Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk, I don't know what you're talking about.

The drones exist in the comics. Hammer even says in the trailer that he wants to make Iron Man look like an antique. Exactly how could you improve the Iron Man suit? Limiting casualities by not having human pilots. It has nothing to do with cowtowing to the MPAA or making it look like a Saturday morning cartoon. In fact, we could only hope that this is as entertaining as a Saturday morning cartoon because that's exactly how we watched this shit as kids.

I agree with the Wolverine statement, but this bullshit about Iron Man is unfounded. Some characters should not be watered down, but Iron Man and the Avengers are not in that category. Although they have SOME adult themes, they're not always in your face like the Punisher or Wolverine. For the most part, these movies should stay PG.

@keithM..exactly, comic book movies are fantasy flicks, not to be taking serious and fun to enjoy.

@canadianturd, Movies should be entertaining by the story, not the amount of violence in it. We saw that happen to Punisher war zone and that filmed tanked, I enjoyed it, but again its about the balance between mainstream and fanboys, you can't please one or the other without hurting the other. I don't want to see Iron man kill people indiscriminately, killing someone should only be the last resort, if the person your fighting is too dangerous to be left alive and in the authorities hands, then killing can be justified. The Hulk has no rhyme or reason, he attacks anyone and anything that looks at him funny. When he kills he kills without cause. Heroes with logic and sense tend to choose the no killing route, most of the time. I'm looking forward to seeing the film and enjoy it to the fullest, killings or no killings of people

Lol i like to start debate.. but i think a few people misread my comments.

I did not in anyway say that Iron Man should be blowing holes in lots of people or anything of the sort. In fact i said "if necessary, were always willing to kill for the greater good".

The comparison i always liked for Marvel/DC was brought up in the crossover comic where they say DC's Earth is going the right direction and the heroes are there to stop anybody taking off that path.. while Marvel's Earth is going to pot and the heroes there fight everyday to get it back on track.

I agree they are using drones specifically so they can let loose have Iron Man War Machine blow holes in everything and make lots of stuff explode without violence against living people. My comparison to cartoon is valid because that is a technique they use to allow violence and entertain children without upsetting parents.

TDK as i mentioned has alot of "suggested violence" which is again acceptable because it is never seen in the film, the camera cuts away.

Maybe i am thinking to realistically, but i just dont see any army interested fully autonomous drones that kill without being told too or being controlled in some way. Like i did say the best way to portray these drones were if they were remote controlled to some extent from a remote location. Im hoping that in the movie they are intended to be controlled but Whiplash's program takes control of them and turns them full automated.

My main problem with your argument in the article (though it is well-written) is that you equate the "edge" of Iron Man with violence, though as the history of the character shows, his real "edge" is his alcoholism, which it seems they'll be dealing with head-on in this film.

I agree about Wolverine. That game footage looked amazing! But I don't think they really need to make a point out of having Iron Man kill people just for the sake of killing people. Marvel has its characters who are ok with killing and its characters who aren't. With Iron Man, it's not like he doesn't try to do his thing without killing. To me it seems like a last resort. Anyway, the drones make sense. With people, they'd have to train them and worry about human error. With the drones, the person who sends them has all the control.

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@ paulley

so what if they WERE being remote controlled though?? that wouldn't give back "the edge" you're talking about. it wouldn't make it any more or less violent. they would still be shredding robots, even if they ARE being controlled by humans. so i think i'm missing you're point, because either way, its Iron Man and War Machine destroying a bunch of unmanned robots.

i just don't get how having humans remote pilot them would would make it any more "edgy". it sounds more like you're argument is for realism, because you say the military wouldn't use drones that could kill on their own. but remember, this is a CBM...i think it can be forgiven, lol

@ BlackAirs87 - I wasn't disagreeing with anything you said.

Though Tony and Rhodey may not kill people there is enough going on, without revealing too much Whiplash does some killing and theres one kill that is emphasised by the sound effects.

I dont think demon will ever be touched but Stark does get wasted at some point in the movie.

It would be pointless to have all those robots piloted by humans, Iron Man tchnology isnt dime a dozen thats why all armor revolves around Tony