JOKER Director Todd Phillips Offers Update On "DC Black" Movie Label For R-Rated, Independent DC Films

JOKER Director Todd Phillips Offers Update On "DC Black" Movie Label For R-Rated, Independent DC Films

It's no secret that Joker won't be your typical comic book movie, and now director Todd Phillips has provided an update about what's happening with that long-rumoured "DC Black" movie label. Check it out!

By JoshWilding - Aug 29, 2019 08:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Joker
Source: Los Angeles Times
When we first heard that a Joker movie was in the works, it was reported that Warner Bros. was planning to launch a new label which would lead to the release of character-driven, R-Rated movies that don't necessarily deliver a comic accurate take on our favourite DC Comics heroes and villains. 

Well, it's been a while since we've heard anything about that, and now Joker director Todd Phillips has shared an update on what's happening. It turns out that the filmmaker did pitch the idea to the studio, but they wanted to him to focus on this movie before looking ahead to what comes next.

Describing "DC Black" as being a laboratory of sorts for "independent-minded films about these characters," he added: "They’re like, ‘Calm down with the label — how about you do one movie?’" 

It's pretty obvious that Warner Bros. didn't want to risk committing to anything before seeing how Joker performs, especially as they've been stung in the past (look how big their plans for the DCEU were before Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice and Suicide Squad underperformed). 

There's a lot of positive buzz surrounding Joker, so chances are DC Black could become a thing. We'll just have to wait and see, but we may be about to enter a whole new era of DC Comics movies.

Hit the "View List" button for a breakdown of the
new Joker trailer along with some hi-res screenshots!

Arthur's Laugh

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Joaquin Phoenix recently revealed that Arthur Fleck suffers from a condition which causes him to spontaneously burst into laughter, and that's evident from this moment in the trailer. 

Looking at other scenes, it appears as if gets him into trouble on a number of occasions throughout the movie (and is probably why he gets beaten up on the subway). This realistic way of explaining the villain's manic cackle is a smart move, and it's fair to say that as sinister laughs go, Phoenix has absolutely nailed it. 

As the trailer continues, though, it quickly become apparent that Arthur is a damaged man... 
 

A Damaged Mind

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Talking to what appears to be a court appointed social worlker/therapist, it's clear that Arthur is struggling with his already fragile psyche as he talks about only having "negative thoughts."

The psychiatrist appears to be genuinely freaked out by her patient and she doesn't want to see him again. No longer having someone to talk to might be part of why his psyche unravels, and Arthur watching over someone in a hospital bed points to him losing his mother (who he has an unhealthily close relationship with based on that shot of him bathing her in the teaser). 

This could also be where Zazie Beetz's character comes in, but we'll get to that a little later!
 

Humiliation

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Arthur dreams of being a stand up comic, but what looks like his big break actually turns into a horrible, humiliating experience. Late night talk show host Franklin Murray roasts Arthur and uses his failed set in a comedy club as a way of embarrassing him, something which clearly doesn't go down well with the already unhinged comic (check out that look on his face). 

We know that Arthur - as "The Joker" - ends up appearing on Franklin's show, and while we have no idea how he makes that happen, the dynamic between them has clearly changed at that point. 

Rumour has it that Joker will borrow a key moment from The Dark Knight Returns when he guns Franklin down on live television, but that would be a pretty underwhelming way for his story to end...unless, of course, seeing graphic violence like that on TV is what causes Gotham to descend into madness.
 

Romance

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The prevailing theory is that Arthur will have a creepy crush on his neighbour, but they seem to be getting on surprisingly well here. She's certainly not fighting off his advances (despite how weird he looks) and it's hard not to wonder whether she could end up being a new version of Harley Quinn!

Yes, that would be a departure from the comics, but she wouldn't necessarily even have to share the same name and profession as her comic book counterpart.

It's also possible that she might encourage him to head down his dark path, especially if she's among Gotham City's disenfranchised. This may very well be a fantasy sequence on Arthur's part, but it's hard to escape the feeling that everything we thought we knew about the two characters is actually going to be quite a bit different. We'll just have to wait and see! 
 

A Revolution In Gotham City

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For whatever reason, it seems like Gotham City is really going to rally around The Joker and everything he represents. There's clearly going to be a pretty strong political slant to this movie and the Clown Prince of Crime may very well be the man who gives the 1% a voice to share their displeasure with how the rich have control of the city. 

Putting some of the dots together, it looks like The Joker kills someone while wearing makeup or a mask, and that essentially goes "viral" in the press and encourages others to follow suit.

That means The Joker can blend into the crowd, and based on Arthur's reaction in some of those shots, he appears to be very happy with the way Gotham is rallying around his cause. 
 

Thomas Wayne

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We know that Thomas Wayne will be running for Mayor in Joker, but something is going to lead to him crossing paths with Arthur Fleck. Returning to rumours from quite some time ago, that might be because Arthur's mother tells him that she once had an affair with Thomas, which leads to him believing that the head of Wayne Enterprises must be his father.

Now, it would obviously be a bold move to make Arthur Bruce Wayne's half-brother, but we know this movie will deliver a bold new take on the villain's origin story, so it's possible! 

Either way, Arthur's condition really doesn't seem to go down well with Thomas and the billionaire punches him. Now, he may have said or done something to deserve that, but this could also be an indication that Thomas won't be a particularly sympathetic character here. 
 

Riots

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Gotham City will seemingly be under siege in Joker and these cops (who are in hot pursuit of Arthur) feel the wrath of its citizens. The masks confirm that they're all part of the Clown Prince of Crime's new following, while it looks like the entire city will rally against those in charge. 

What the outcome of that will be is hard to say, but if this movie is an origin story for Gotham as well as the titular character, then maybe Arthur's actions are what lead to it becoming such a terrible place?

With him there to show people that they can basically do whatever they like, normal people might become more accepting of the maniacs who one day terrorise them while battling The Batman, and it's also feasible that he'll inspire a whole new generation of monsters. Either way, director Todd Phillips clearly has a lot of big ideas on the table. 
 

"Joker"

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We still don't know how The Dark Knight's version of The Joker got his scars, but we do know that this take on the Harlequin of Hate decides that he will be known as "Joker." Franklin Murray looks thoroughly perplexed and something tells us that these two will write Arthur off...much to their regret a little later that evening! 

Marc Maron's role is said to be a small one and based on this, he's probably a producer of some sort.

The question is, if The Joker is a wanted man at this stage in the proceedings, why would Murray have him on his show? There have been an awful lot of supposed plot leaks for Joker, but chances are this tale won't play out quite the way most of us expected...

Continue scrolling below to check out some
hi-res screenshots from the final Joker trailer!

 
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tmp3
tmp3 - 8/29/2019, 8:51 AM
Really gotta wonder how many articles Josh can make out of one LA Times interview with Todd Phillips
Thing94
Thing94 - 8/29/2019, 8:55 AM

tmp3
tmp3 - 8/29/2019, 8:56 AM
Joaquin Phoenix lost 52 pounds for this, sounds like he was pretty committed.
tmp3
tmp3 - 8/29/2019, 8:59 AM
If this does well I'd love it if they green-lit a mid-budget R-rated Question film by, like, Lynne Ramsay
tmp3
tmp3 - 8/29/2019, 9:01 AM
Also, Phillips didn’t call the programming director of the Venice International Film Festival and ask for “Joker” to be in competition — they were simply invited and accepted. And that leaked script going around? If it’s what Phillips thinks it is — a draft from April 2018 — he said, “They’re in for a big surprise when they see the movie.” The script changed quite a bit between that version and when they began shooting last September.

Very interesting...
Battabing
Battabing - 8/29/2019, 9:18 AM
@tmp3 - That's what I've been saying. People keep going on about the leaked Joker script. But the script kept changing every day. So, it's like "Which script did you read? There's a bunch of them."
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 8/29/2019, 9:01 AM
@tmp3

Need to rewatch You Were Never Really Here before this. Haven’t seen it since theaters and that movie left me on edge.

Origame
Origame - 8/29/2019, 9:01 AM
Kinda reminds me of marvel knights...dont let that shape how you think of this.
Chewtoy
Chewtoy - 8/29/2019, 9:03 AM
I’m not used to hearing such wisdom attributed to studio executives. Seems like if they get burned often enough, they can be taught.

I don’t really think that there’s a big market for this kind of thing beyond very few comic characters though, each with diminishing returns.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 8/29/2019, 9:04 AM
Scott Silver, co-writer of Joker, has also written some dope movies:


tmp3
tmp3 - 8/29/2019, 9:08 AM
@regularmovieguy - Scott Silver's written a movie starring skinny Batman and a movie starring skinny Joker
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 8/29/2019, 9:17 AM
@tmp3

And Skinny Eminem!
tmp3
tmp3 - 8/29/2019, 9:05 AM
@regularmovieguy - I remember seeing it at a film festival in 2017 for free because of my student pass, lol. It was 4 months before its theatrical release and Lynne Ramsay introduced the film with the kid. Great film, the Joaq was excellent as always, kind of solidified him as being an absolute top-tier actor for me.
tmp3
tmp3 - 8/29/2019, 9:08 AM
@TheDoctor1225 - Maybe Joaquin & Zazie are like Bonnie & Clyde now? Instead of the dynamic in the script?
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 8/29/2019, 9:08 AM
@tmp3

I’m a ‘91 baby. Saw him first in Gladiator on VHS - hated him in it. Didn’t realize until I rewatched it later how good he was in it.

Loved him in Signs - him and Mel were really fun to watch together and had a believable relationship.

Wasn’t until I saw him in Walk the Line that I thought, “okay, this guy is fantastic.”
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 8/29/2019, 9:11 AM
@KingCipher

No way! haha I just saw his IMDb and his only other credits were Mod Squad and something else.

Had no idea he had a hand in that although I’m sure there at least 5 other writers.

The Fighter is incredible tho. And I’m sure David O. Russell had a big hand in that (the family banter, no doubt) but it’s one of my favorite movies about boxing/fighting. Might be my favorite Bale performance.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 8/29/2019, 9:13 AM
GhostDog
GhostDog - 8/29/2019, 9:14 AM
IronGenesis
IronGenesis - 8/29/2019, 9:19 AM
Please. Please! PLEASE!
Let there be a DC Black Label. Just everything some of us need as a pallet cleanser form your standard CBMs these days.

Bring in all the auteurs and let them go nuts with the whole DC Catalog.

❤️🤤 ❤️ 🤤 ❤️
GhostDog
GhostDog - 8/29/2019, 9:32 AM
@Nomis

regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 8/29/2019, 9:37 AM
@BlackBeltJones @Nomis

Rachel Dratch, Tina Fey, Will Ferrell, Amy Poehler...

Probably my favorite SNL cast next to Sudeikis, Sandberg, Wiig, and Hader.

Debbie Downer was always hilarious 😂
tmp3
tmp3 - 8/29/2019, 9:54 AM
@regularmovieguy - Sudeikis, Sandberg, Wiig, and Hader was GOD-tier. What a career they all went on to have. Wiig's already at DC... Bill Hader... Riddler? 👀
WakandanQueen
WakandanQueen - 8/29/2019, 9:37 AM
I'm sure Joker will do well enough, so get ready for more films like this one.
Spidey91
Spidey91 - 8/29/2019, 9:40 AM
f*cking hell, this site is more broken that my self-esteem
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