ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE Has Been In The Works For "Quite Some Time"

ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE Has Been In The Works For "Quite Some Time"

HBO Max Content Chief Kevin Reilly confirms that Zack Snyder's Justice League has been in the works for a while now, but a myriad of legal complications ended up slowing down that big announcement...

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By JoshWilding - May 27, 2020 07:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Justice League
Source: Business Insider

It's been a crazy couple of weeks, with the news that Zack Snyder's Justice League (a.k.a. the "Snyder Cut") undoubtedly one of the biggest stories to come along in quite some time. Confirmed for an HBO Max premiere in 2021, it sounds like an expensive endeavour, but one WarnerMedia is confident will bring a lot of new subscribers to its streaming platform. 

During a recent interview with Business Insider, HBO Max Content Chief Kevin Reilly was asked how long discussions about this version of the film have been happening, and it sounds like they've been going on behind the scenes for a while as fans have continued to campaign for Warner Bros. to #ReleaseTheSnyderCut. 

"I forget when Zack and Deborah [Snyder] first gave us the sense of where they were heading, but even from that meeting, me and my team felt it was something we really wanted to do," he says. 

"There were a lot of issues involved to figure out how we could deliver on his vision, and a myriad of legal issues," Reilly continued. "We've been sitting on this for quite some time but working on it. It was obviously a secret project given the high level of interest, but we were chipping away at it piece by piece. There was some strategy but also some serendipity in how we got over the hurdle of some of those issues just before the launch [of Max]."

Asked to elaborate on what some of those issues were, he responded: "That's a whole separate interview [laughs]. Let's file that as a follow up."

It certainly sounds like it was a complicated process to make Zack Snyder's Justice League happen, and in a separate interview, Chairman of WarnerMedia and head of HBO Max, Bob Greenblatt, said, "It does not exist. Zack is actually building it...I wish it was just $30 million & stop there."

Do you guys think it will be worth all this hassle to make Zack Snyder's Justice League happen?

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Spidey91
Spidey91 - 5/27/2020, 7:05 AM
So the Snyder Cut as it was canonized doesn't actually "exists" yet and never actually did. There is only a puzzle that Zack is putting together, presumably as we speak.
JonC
JonC - 5/27/2020, 8:40 AM
@Spidey91 - I agree. Now that Zack has additional money he is bound to modify it... and considering his writing ability... it won't be for the better.
I still say give the money and time to Whedon so he can finish properly and we get a Batman and Superman we can respect.
LameLuka
LameLuka - 5/27/2020, 9:32 AM
@JonC - Cause Whedon did such a great job with Superman and Iron Man 2.0 in Josstice League right ?
tmp3
tmp3 - 5/27/2020, 7:08 AM
They said they had to legally check if this counted as a new film in their actors contracts or not. Wonder if that inflated the budget.
hazapez
hazapez - 5/27/2020, 8:40 AM
@tmp3 - what did they determine ?
tmp3
tmp3 - 5/27/2020, 8:51 AM
@hazapez - He didn't say. He was ambiguous about the whole thing.
31:40 here:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hbo-max-is-here/id1080467174?i=1000475781603
VicSage
VicSage - 5/27/2020, 7:26 AM
A Snyder Cut of this film was NEVER ready for release. Let that be clear. Snyder had barely started editing. Some of the #ReleasetheSnydercut fans fail to comprehend this fact.

However, they have never been entirely wrong either. There is something I'm not seeing mentioned in any conversations about the existence of the "Snyder cut" and that's the film post-production process. I don't know why Zack hasn't explained it for fans to comprehend. Often times resorting to vague answers.

To put it simply, Zack Snyder shot his version of this movie. It's been shot. He completed principal photography. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your camp), he never got to start additional photography which typically includes reshoots, pick ups, and inserts. Nor did he get the opportunity to spend time in VFX. All that we know of the post-production process was he completed an Assembly cut, which is usually the first or second extraordinarily long cut of a film, and the film's score by Junkie XL was well underway.

So, yes, a Snyder Cut version of JL ready for release never existed. Never. However, a Zack Snyder version of Justice League did exist. I know, semantics. Joss Whedon had two whole months to reshoot and rewrite the movie. Enough that it warranted, at the very least, a writing credit (at least 33% has to be contributed to receive said credit by the WGA). Couple that with Kevin Tsujihara's mandate to edit the film to no more than 2 hours -- you have a vastly different movie.

If given the time and resources, of course Zack can make his version of Justice League. WB just wasn't interested in his version and took a tragic opportunity to move in a different direction.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 5/27/2020, 7:31 AM
@VicSage
F*cking THIS!
IronGenesis
IronGenesis - 5/27/2020, 8:01 AM
@VicSage - When I would yell, “Release the Snyder Cut” it was not done under the impression that the whole film was ready and all you needed to do was push a button.

Anyone who followed this “Saga” knew there was more work to be done.

Not sure how ReleaseTheSnyderCut got associated with his whole film is ready to be released.
VicSage
VicSage - 5/27/2020, 8:13 AM
@IronGenesis - I think that's the perspective of the anti-ReleaseTheSnyderCut crowd.

It's all just semantics, as far as I'm concerned.
inkniron
inkniron - 5/27/2020, 8:40 AM
@VicSage - Except the lord master himself said there was a cut, actually there were multiple cuts. He also said it was finished except a few CG tweaks. On top of that, he touted a runtime of 214 minutes. So let's take it step by step.

We're now being told what we are going to get is going to be up to 4 hours (a possible 240 minutes) That's not a few tweaks, that's adding more than an animated short's worth of footage. So, if this holds true, it's not even the same movie.

What kind of hubris does it take to film a 214 minute movie? Did he actually believe they would give a theatrical release to a movie 3.5 hrs long? No studio is going to sign off on that. It just doesn't happen. It's rare air to get the 3hrs Endgame got, but let's be honest, they earned a little leeway after 20 films and multiple billion dollar successes.

"A new report from the Wall Street Journal indicates that WB’s CEO Kevin Tsujihara made clear he wanted Justice League to be under two hours, shorter than the excessive 151 minutes of Dawn of Justice." I'm sure they gave him those parameters before he started shooting and there's no indication otherwise.

Did he think they would let him split it into 2 films, even though that's most likely not what they asked for or signed off on? At this point (I don't know, but I am going to assume) they might have even considered chopping it into 2 films. Makes sense. They already invested a metric boat load of money, why not try to capitalize on it? I can only theorize there wasn't a natural stop and restart point in the story to make it make any sense to do so. I could be wrong though.

Even if you cut an hour out of his ultimate cut to get it to the BvS theatrical run time, It's more than likely still going to be an unwatchable, disjointed mess. Did he not learn anything the last go around?

It's HIS FAULT he wouldn't or couldn't follow instructions from the start.

WB didn't use his tragedy to move in a different direction. Snyder used it as cover for getting fired. It's not like he doesn't have a megaphone to call out a BS move like that and he's a gutless coward if he let them drag his personal life into an excuse.
npkuiper
npkuiper - 5/27/2020, 8:40 AM
@VicSage - you don't compose and conduct music based on an assembly cut, you do so after "picture lock" but yes, please continue to regale us with your infinite post-production knowledge.
npkuiper
npkuiper - 5/27/2020, 8:45 AM
@inkniron - do you know how many films are 4+ hours before final edit? EVERY big budget film has a long assembly cut. Blade Runner 2049 and Black Panther's assembly cuts were over 4 hours. It's not hubris, it's part of how filmmaking works.
inkniron
inkniron - 5/27/2020, 9:04 AM
@npkuiper - Except they aren't touting the release of an assembly cut. They're pushing ZACK SNYDER'S justice league. It may be the assembly cut with added CGI, but it definitely isn't any snydercut we would or could have seen as an initial finished product. This is not the snydercut, it's an attempt to up HBOmax subscribers.
Goldboink
Goldboink - 5/27/2020, 7:44 AM
This film is going to be a world beater!
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 5/27/2020, 7:47 AM
ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE Has Been In The Works For "Quite Some Time"

Two years of market research on Vero.
KingLeonidas
KingLeonidas - 5/27/2020, 8:13 AM
Snyder cut the actual movie is being produced right now. All that existed was Snyder Footage and Synder Intentions. There was nothing actually releasable. And this confirms all the sane people who were calling this a hoax.

So the theory bears out. Snyder teased his faptrolls by insinuating there was a blu ray ready with this cut somewhere, and they just had to campaign it to release it.

Turns out, there was no releasable version ever in existence. The Snyder Cut is being made right now by spending 40-50 million dollars.

So the Snyder cut never ever existed. It was a cock tease by Snyder to dupe his faptrolls.

But he succeeded because the faptrolls fell for the ploy, and bullied WB.

And now WB is forking out an additional 50-60 million dollars for a movie that they already lost 100s of millions of dollars.

Well done Snyder. You are a master salesman. You just sold a lemon to the world.
snyderbot4000
snyderbot4000 - 5/27/2020, 8:27 AM
Have you guys ever heard of shungite rocks?
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