JUSTICE LEAGUE Director Zack Snyder Addresses Absence Of The Joker's SUICIDE SQUAD Tattoos In The Snyder Cut

JUSTICE LEAGUE Director Zack Snyder Addresses Absence Of The Joker's SUICIDE SQUAD Tattoos In The Snyder Cut

Earlier today, the curtain was finally pulled back on Jared Leto's Joker return in Zack Snyder's Justice League, and the filmmaker has now commented briefly on the whereabouts of the villain's tattoos...

By JoshWilding - Feb 09, 2021 11:02 AM EST
Filed Under: Justice League
Source: Vanity Fair

We were hoping The Joker's return in Zack Snyder's Justice League might be kept as a surprise, but with most of the Snyder Cut's plot already spelled out on Vero, today's big reveal isn't overly shocking. 

So, we now know what the "Knightmare" Clown Prince of Crime looks like, and the prospect of a meeting between him and Ben Affleck's Batman is undeniably exciting. Of course, perhaps the biggest change to Jared Leto's Joker is the fact that every single one of his tattoos have mysteriously vanished. 

When his Joker was first revealed ahead of Suicide Squad's release, his body art proved to be a major talking point, with the "Damaged" tattoo proving to be particularly controversial among fans. 

In today's Vanity Fair interview, Snyder played coy when asked about this change, responding: "I would say that there's been some water under the bridge. Who knows what's happened. I don't know if he's wearing makeup, I don't know what's happening. It’s hard to say exactly."

Something tells us Leto didn't relish the thought of being a subject of ridicule for those meme-worthy tattoos, and so far, it looks a lot like the change is considered to be one for the better. The Joker is a character whose appearance constantly evolves, so this overhaul doesn't exactly fly in the face of the comic books.

Either way, this will probably be the Oscar-winner's final appearance as the iconic villain, and given Snyder's love of Frank Miller's work, things probably won't end well for The Joker! 

Do you think Snyder should have kept the tattoos in the Snyder Cut of Justice League


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of Will Beall's Justice League screenplay! 

10. Batman And Superman Are Allies

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Superman is dead when the Snyder Cut begins, but in Beall's version, the Man of Steel is good friends with Batman. They know each other's secret identities, and meet in a Metropolis diner for a catch-up. 

Before heading to Central City to recruit the Flash, there's a battle in Lexcorp Tower against KGBeast and Killer Croc to deal with. Lex Luthor is in the midst of attempting to buy Kryptonite from the former, but they're all interrupted by the arrival of Desaad, one of Darkseid's most loyal followers. 

He kills Croc, and makes off with the Kryptonite. 

This action-packed, character-heavy opening doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of what's to come, however...
 

9. Darkseid Is The Film's Big Bad

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Steppenwolf doesn't get as much to do in this Justice League, and Darkseid is the lead baddie from the start. The film wastes no time in introducing the ruler of Apokolips, with the opening scene taking place on the villain's home planet. 

Snyder and Terrio clearly had a different idea for how Darkseid's big screen introduction would work, as he's only expected to make a cameo appearance in the Snyder Cut. The reason for that is because he was supposed to take center stage in the Justice League: Part 2 film Warner Bros. initially greenlit.

Had Beall's script been used, Darkseid might have beaten Thanos to theaters. 

While this film may have had Darkseid in spades, there's one member of the League who was set to be M.I.A.
 

8. There's No Aquaman

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Jason Momoa's Aquaman has become a firm fan-favorite, and his solo film grossed over $1 billion globally in 2018.

Beall, however, had no intention of using the King of Atlantis. While there are a lot of other heroes in this Justice League, it seems the writer couldn't quite figure out how to bring this divisive superhero to the screen. Remember, when Beall was penning this screenplay, it was before DC Comics reinvented Arthur Curry with the New 52 reboot.

As you'll soon come to see, it would have been tricky to squeeze Aquaman into this story, because Beall instead focused on characters who Snyder overlooked in his film.

Chief among them is Green Lantern...
 

7. Green Lantern/Hawkman Team-Up

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There was a huge cosmic element to Beall's Justice League screenplay, with Green Lantern John Stewart and Hawkman teaming up in an outer space nightclub to stop Kanjar Ro from helping Dessad weaponize the Kryptonite he stole from Lex Luthor and KGBeast.

We don't get a Hal Jordan mention, and this film was presumably set in a separate world to 2011's Green Lantern starring Ryan Reynolds. 

While all this is happening, there's a subplot about Amanda Waller and the Department of Metahuman. Interestingly, she has her own team made up of Tattooed Man, Copperhead, Cheetah, and Solomon Grundy (we'll come back to them).

Also on Earth, Superman is kidnapped by Steppenwolf and his Parademons, and taken back to Apokolips. 
 

6. Massacre On Oa

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Batman heads to Themyscira to seek Wonder Woman's help, and we learn they have a romantic history.

John Stewart, meanwhile, returns to Earth, and and meets with Bruce, Diana, and the Flash in the Batcave (which is packed full of Easter Eggs, including The Penguin's Umbrella and multiple Batmobiles and Batsuits). 

As the team formulates a plan to rescue Superman, John heads back to Oa, only to find the planet decimated by Darkseid. Katma Tui, Kilowag, Guy Gardner, Salakk, and Tomar-Re are all dead, a sign Beall wasn't exactly thinking ahead to their potential future in the DC Universe...for now, anyway. 

With no Green Lantern Corps standing in his way, Darkseid heads to Earth. 
 

5. Batman v Superman

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Superman has fallen under Darkseid's control, and a fight with Batman ensues. 

Like in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice and Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns, the Caped Crusader dons a special armored Batsuit to take on the Man of Steel in hand-to-hand combat. 

It's Wonder Woman who eventually figures out how to free Superman from Darkseid, and the hero quickly rejoins the League to repel the villain's invasion. However, things get a little strange at this point in Beall's Justice League film because Kal-El finds himself thrust eleven years into the future after travelling through a Boom Tube.

This has to be where Snyder and Terrio got the idea to tackle a "Knightmare" future in their version.
 

4. A Desolate Future

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Superman learns that Darkseid has wiped out 80% of the planet's population, and Diana and Bruce are leading what's left of the human resistance. 

Batman is Wonder Woman's second in command, and they have a son: Clark Wayne. 

It seems Superman's disappearance through the Boom Tube left Earth defenseless, and even Lex Luthor is now aligned with the heroes. "Batman's Berzerkers" is a team made up of Deathstroke, Captain Boomerang, Huntress, and Cheetah, essentially meaning the Dark Knight is the leader of the Suicide Squad.

The survivors are based in Superman's Fortress of Solitude. 
 

3. Time-Travel

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We know Batman and Cyborg are responsible for sending the Flash back in time in the SnyderVerse, though it's likely those scenes were being saved for the sequel. 

In Beall's film, it's Lex Luthor who figured out how to send Barry Allen eleven years into the past. 

The Future Flash arrives on Earth prior to Darkseid's invasion, and dies in his younger self's arms shortly after warning the younger Barry about what's to come for the League.

After warning his teammates, the stage is set for an epic battle...
 

2. Epic Final Battle

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Superman has already been taken to Apokolips at this point, so Batman, Wonder Woman, the Flash, and Green Lantern travel to the planet to stop Darkseid before he can brainwash their teammate. 

Superman is rescued, and the heroes take on the villain and his forces. 

The Green Lantern Corps - who are alive in this timeline -  soon arrive to lend a helping hand, as do the Amazon warriors from Themyscira. As you might expect, the heroes emerge victorious from the battle, and stop that desolate future from ever becoming a reality. 

Darkseid may be defeated, but there's another foe waiting in the wings.
 

1. President Lex Luthor

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Lex Luthor is planning to run for President, a nice hint at how his story played out in the comics. However, there's one final surprise that could set the stage for a Superman spinoff film. 

Lex receives a message from his future self, and learns that Superman is, in fact, Clark Kent.

Beall's screenplay doesn't reveal what the villain does with that information, but there are plenty of ways that could have been addressed. In Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, Lex deduces that himself, and the pay off wasn't quite what a lot of fans out there hoped for.

Beall's film sounds like it could have been a fun ride, but how much Snyder and Terrio borrowed is currently up in the air.

h/t The Wrap
 

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ReverseFlasher
ReverseFlasher - 2/9/2021, 11:32 AM
“Who knows?” ... um, you should.
Humperdink
Humperdink - 2/9/2021, 12:11 PM
@ReverseFlasher -

He'll let a fan come up with a reason on Vero or Twitter then say that was his intention all along. Like Patty Jenkins did with WW84.



Fans love filling in the plot holes for directors who "don't know" why they did something that made. no sense.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 2/9/2021, 12:38 PM
@ReverseFlasher - Do people not understand what “played coy” means or did you read nothing else from the article except the quote lol
Humperdink
Humperdink - 2/9/2021, 3:01 PM
@Ha1frican -

We'll see what his reason for this is and if it isn't just another one of his arbitrary changes that he thinks looks cool or something silly like Lex using traceable bullets, Batman being the world's worst detective, or making Superman forget how to speak in order to keep a story going that could end with a simple sentence.

He could easily say he doesn't want to reveal why the Joker suddenly doesn't have any of his tattoos rather than lie, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's lying and it's simply a scene from from the past.

Something you really don't need to lie about unless you want drama. Just don't act surprised that people don't want to give Snyder the benefit of the doubt.

He's earned that skepticism.
Origame
Origame - 2/9/2021, 3:12 PM
@Ha1frican - let's face it, here most just want any reason to keep hating on Snyder even if it makes no sense. I seriously ran into someone who claimed joker here looks like professor pyg (seriously can you even see it here outside of the superficial) and when I pointed out there's really not much to go on for that, he claimed I was "defending snyder".
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 2/9/2021, 3:16 PM
@Origame - Whats even funny to me is that basically everyone agrees that they hated the tattoos (myself included) and screamed that they be removed, and he did that and now they have somehow turned that into a negative. I get not liking his movies thats totally fair but some of these people are fanatical in their dislike to the point where I think they care more than even me who had issues with some stuff but likes his movies overall
Mando
Mando - 2/9/2021, 11:33 AM
Why does he look like the crow mixed with Joaquin joker



Darkknight2149
Darkknight2149 - 2/9/2021, 2:08 PM
@Mando -
Joaquin Pheonix also looked a bit like Heath Ledger.



Long hair and a giant red mouth seems to be the default look for live action Joker at this point.
MahN166A
MahN166A - 2/9/2021, 11:34 AM
What the hell do you mean, you don’t know.......?

Its your film.

You know what??

He is just being candid about it and trying to avoid giving details. He is doing that on purpose.

I still find it funny that Snyder praised Ayer’s version of the Joker and then went out of his way to change his appearance.
Irony.
MahN166A
MahN166A - 2/9/2021, 11:43 AM
@TheKingCrusader -

You don’t have to be coy. Just say, “You’ll have to watch the film to find out.”

Jesus.
Such oblivious SnyderNutRiders on this site.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 2/9/2021, 11:46 AM
@Waddles -
His answers are designed intentionally to provoke a reaction and a discussion. Remember he is one of these people who thinks that having a controversial piece of media is better than a film that is universally enjoyed. You can compare Zak to Brian Johnson in that regard.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 2/10/2021, 8:22 AM
@Waddles - Tbf though, sometimes writers DON'T know everything about their own work. People ask about the histories about certain characters and they're like "I'm not sure, I never fleshed it out". So it's not the worst comment in the world.
IronGenesis
IronGenesis - 2/9/2021, 11:35 AM
“...and Get that man a limited series on HBOMAX.”

Film idea didn’t seem to go over well in previous thread.
Mando
Mando - 2/9/2021, 11:47 AM
@IronGenesis - how about no...let him finish up the snyder cut and move on from dc he's done enough damage already to DC
IronGenesis
IronGenesis - 2/9/2021, 12:00 PM
@Mando - I was meaning the limited series Joker starring Leto.

But I was just joking.
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 2/9/2021, 11:35 AM
Why is this Joker allowed to wear make up in prison? 🤷‍♂️
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 2/9/2021, 11:52 AM
@TheKingCrusader - I’m talking about just this version. If he’s been locked up for a while why is he allowed makeup?
MahN166A
MahN166A - 2/9/2021, 12:02 PM
@AnthonyVonGeek - If this is part of the nightmare scenario chances are that Arkham asylum is destroyed and derelict and he’s just there of his own accord
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 2/9/2021, 12:06 PM
@AnthonyVonGeek - equal opportunities 🤷🏿‍♂️
Poopmaster89
Poopmaster89 - 2/9/2021, 12:15 PM
@AnthonyVonGeek - don't bother with that pansie
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