DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE Star Ryan Reynolds Reveals Why They Were Almost Stopped From Using "Wolverine" In Title

DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE Star Ryan Reynolds Reveals Why They Were Almost Stopped From Using "Wolverine" In Title

Deadpool & Wolverine star Ryan Reynolds has reflected on the complicated process of making the movie a reality, including a legal issue which almost barred them from mentioning Wolverine in the title...

By JoshWilding - Jan 03, 2025 06:01 AM EST
Filed Under: Deadpool & Wolverine
Source: IndieWire

Deadpool & Wolverine was one of 2024's biggest hits and a movie that went a long way in restoring faith in the MCU after a somewhat hit-and-miss Multiverse Saga. 

Rather than bringing the Merc with the Mouth into the MCU - or Earth-616, to be a little more specific - it celebrated 20th Century Fox's X-Men Universe and franchises like Blade, Elektra, and Fantastic Four. Of course, what truly made the R-Rated blockbuster excel was the return of Hugh Jackman as Wolverine.

Talking to IndieWire, Deadpool & Wolverine director Shawn Levy and writer/star Ryan Reynolds were asked whether "Deadpool vs. Wolverine" was always the plan. 

"I must have pitched Kevin a dozen, maybe 16, Deadpool movies, a Sundance Deadpool, which was like a road trip with Margo Martindale, shot on no money, no special effects needed, just character," Reynolds explained. "I pitched 'Deadpool Is Hunting,' the hunter who shot Bambi’s mom finds him, and they fall in love, become, like, Butch and Sundance. And of course, I was told we don’t touch Bambi at Disney, and rightly so."

The actor confirmed that Deadpool vs. Wolverine was a possible title for a time, something Levy elaborated on when he said, "The title was 'Deadpool 3' for a long time, then it was going to be 'Deadpool and Friend,' and we had a late-in-the-process epiphany that the arc of the screenplay is they are pitted against each other until eventually, and frankly, for audiences, satisfyingly, are joined together. So it’s 'versus' that transitions into 'and.'"

"For some reason, we weren’t allowed to use the name Wolverine in the title," Reynolds later revealed. "I’d have no idea why, some weird loophole thing, but at the last minute, we changed it to 'Deadpool & Wolverine,' and they somehow pushed it through. But a lot of times, it’s persistence. We were told we couldn’t use Blade or Gambit."

Levy added, "A lot of things started with 'no.' Not because they were micromanaging, but because the lawyers down the hall said, 'That’s not part of the deal.' And yeah, we were hopefully respectful hammers. But for sure, we were hammers. If we felt that something was right for this story, if it became a had to have, then we just were a little bit relentless."

It's clear from these remarks that, even after the Disney/Fox merger, bringing these characters together wasn't a simple process. It's a shame Reynolds didn't talk more about why "Wolverine" couldn't be included in the title and we can't help but wonder what legal issues like that could mean for Marvel Studios' future X-Men plans. 

Elsewhere in the interview, the Deadpool actor shared a familiar update on future plans for Wade Wilson in the MCU:

"I can tell you that 'Deadpool' works best on scarcity and surprise. So the character is a better supporting player than he is a central figure. And I say that because Deadpool works best when you take everything away from him. And in order to take everything away from him, you have to centralize him, and we’ve done that now. I can’t keep taking everything away from him. I would love to, if we’re in the future, have an idea for an ensemble where it doesn’t necessarily center on Deadpool, but includes Wolverine and some other interesting pair-ups within that. I always think simpler is so much better. Say very little. Very, very clean stakes right at the beginning, not plotty. And then we’re off to 'My Dinner With Andre' mixed with 'X-Men.' No, I’m joking."

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WEAPONXOXOXO
WEAPONXOXOXO - 1/3/2025, 6:56 AM
The movie was stupid fun. But it made enough money for the suites to not have an accidental fire over at Disney.


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Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/3/2025, 7:04 AM
It differs but this highlights why, according to almost all reporting, why we haven't had recast Xmen yet. Just because Disney now owns Fox that does not necessarily mean they can do anything they want with the Marvel characters they owned the rights to as there can be legal issues that remain for years that need ironing and in some cases will lockout some things. The word was with recasting mutants was they couldn't for summut like 5yrs give or take a year due to clauses in contracts for instance although obv don't know with certainty if that is accurate and/or if it is ALL mutants from the Fox films (or just major characters).

Indeed this kind of weird legal issue may have been why What If bods believed they couldn't use mutants in the main where as Xmen 97' had free reign as the former it would be new versions and/or recasts and the latter was a direct continuation from what had been made prior to the deal.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/3/2025, 7:16 AM
@Apophis71 - I remember that rumor and I wouldn’t be surprised if it was true

However I do think What If perhaps could have used variants of the X-Men 97 characters but I’m not sure what the production overlap if any would have been then

Plus with Co-vid and the strikes that made studios shuffle dates around , idk if What If would have even been allowed to showcase mutants before 97 did.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/3/2025, 10:43 AM
@TheVisionary25 - That IS what I was thinking, once Disney had made 97 then that also could allow a legal loophole where they could more readily do a variant of a character from that series although would tend to think either way they wouldn't have wanted variant mutants until after we'd seen a version of them somewhere in the MCU (or 97) anyway for other reasons.

Whatever way around or the legal sittuation as season two was out before 97 it did make more sense holding off with Storm till season 3 as idealy you would never want the variants to appear on a what if show BEFORE the main one it is a variant of.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/3/2025, 10:55 AM
@Apophis71 - yeah

It’s unfortunate how restricted that show was.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/3/2025, 11:21 AM
@TheVisionary25 - It could be great if they return to doing What if's once the multiverse saga is complete thus far lower odds of crossovers from timelines.

It should give them way more freedom to do ANY standalone story they wanted (with far more toys they characters to use) with the only times they were told no (or at least not yet) is if the story they come up with is too close to what is already in preprod for an MCU film. I tend to feel the oversight is in large part what prevented more/any GREAT standalone stories and resticted them into mostly good at best (and bad for many in some cases).

Overall I found the show fun enough, but mostly forgettable and only a couple that were close to being great across all three seasons.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/3/2025, 11:32 AM
@Apophis71 - yeah

It was a fun show but not one of my favorites

Like pretty much any anthology , I enjoyed the stories to varying degrees.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/3/2025, 11:51 AM
@TheVisionary25 - Bit like I have been at times with Twilight Zone, for the number of episodes I've watched of that (probably most of them) there are surprisingly few I could recall well enough to describe but overall enjoyed most for what they were at the time to varying degrees and generaly LIKE those sort of What If questions and weirder Xfile type things even when hit and miss (esp if mostly standalone episodes so you can dip in and out, not have to watch EVERY episode in full in order of release).
BigPhilbowski
BigPhilbowski - 1/3/2025, 12:41 PM
@Apophis71 - I remember a while going reading about a certain clause in the deal that meant Marvel couldn't recast any characters from the Xmen properties for 5 years after the release of the final project. Those 5 years are just up since July so it makes sense with regards to What If, the issue with using Wolverine in the title and it suddenly changing last minute etc. Could also explain why we got no Xmen cameos in DP bar Wolverine and some background villains played by different actors.
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 1/3/2025, 7:25 AM
Considering that Blade movies were made by New Line Cinema and the rights to them speficially still seem to be with them, it's kinda suprising they were allowed to touch that version of the character at all.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/3/2025, 7:32 AM
@FinnishDude - I did not know that…

I thought they had reverted back when their hold on the rights expired
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 1/3/2025, 7:39 AM
@TheVisionary25 - What I mean is that Marvel/Disney holds the rights to Blade in general, but the Wesley Snipes trilogy is still owned by New Line.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/3/2025, 7:43 AM
@FinnishDude - oh interesting.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 1/3/2025, 7:36 AM
Hard to believe there’s any legal issues that persist all these years later. What are they worried about exactly - if they sue themselves??

Would be great to hear one of those Disney lawyers go over the subtleties of the deal
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 1/4/2025, 1:03 PM
@Nightwing1015 - I do wonder if it's because at the time Marvel studios had other plans for the X-Men and then they just went with making them Multiversal characters for now and allowed them to come through Deadpool first.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/3/2025, 7:48 AM
Interesting especially the bit of them initially being able to not use Blade & Gambit either…

Could it be that Marvel initially didn’t want them to have those characters before they did their own versions or there was a legal issues of not being able to have Wesley Snipes’s Blade or Channing Tatum’s Gambit (especially since the latter was never made by Fox)?.

Anyway good on Levy & Reynolds being persistent because those characters and the actors performances added to the enjoyment of the film imo!!.

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AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 1/3/2025, 8:17 AM
Its crazy that there are so many laws that they have to follow over rights to a character. Glad Disney got FOX properties back. Wish Sony and Universal would give up their grips on who they still own. That's one of the reasons we cant get a proper Hulk and are lucky as shit to get a decent Spider-man. But look at the characters (great characters) Sony has already [frick]ed... Venom, Kraven, Morbius, Rhino (2x and wasted [frick]ing Paul Giamatti!!!) ugh. Just imagine how they could screw Miles up if they are given the chance.
elgaz
elgaz - 1/3/2025, 8:23 AM
@AgentofSH1ELD - It's crazy when you read a story like this in isolation (like, why WOULD they say no to Blade at all?) but when you think about it, the character laws are probably a good thing. Can you imagine how many low budget movie versions of every comic character would be released by small production companies? The entire pool would be diluted by low quality fare, maybe the odd standout but probability dictates that the bad would outweigh the really good
AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 1/3/2025, 9:08 AM
@elgaz - Its going to happen eventually. Whenever the trademark expires. Winnie the Poo: blood and honey, The mean one, Steamboat willie horror movie coming out, Popeye horror movie coming out, Bambi horror movie on the way.
Though, in the positive, we could get a pretty bad ass Marvel Zombies movie that way....
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 1/3/2025, 8:28 AM
Black Panther popped into the Deadpool pitch meeting and said,
“Get this man whatever he wants!” Obviously excluding Bambi stuff.
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Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 1/3/2025, 8:36 AM
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AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 1/3/2025, 9:10 AM
@Reeds2Much - i love it.
Was this off of RR twitter feed? if not you totally need to send it to him.
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 1/3/2025, 7:31 PM
@AgentofSH1ELD - I made it a while ago. Feel free to post it on twitter if ya want. Memes are meant to be stolen and spread, after all.
AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 1/4/2025, 6:53 AM
@Reeds2Much - I actually dont have a twitter, but i bet he would get a kick out of this.
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 1/3/2025, 8:42 AM
I would love to know what Ryan is like when he’s not trying so desperately hard to be funny. None of it seems natural.
Nonameforme
Nonameforme - 1/3/2025, 8:48 AM
I don't believe a word this man said.
cheeseburger
cheeseburger - 1/4/2025, 10:23 AM
@Nonameforme - the feelings mutual I’m sure
breakUbatman
breakUbatman - 1/3/2025, 9:00 AM
Probably to do with profit share with the deal. Rights to the character and rights to merch might not be linked
bobevanz
bobevanz - 1/3/2025, 10:07 AM
In 5 years everyone will remember this movie as a joke
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 1/3/2025, 10:37 AM
@bobevanz - the best joke ever.

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