DCU Rumor Round-Up: Mr. Freeze In THE BATMAN Sequel; WONDER WOMAN Casting, And More

DCU Rumor Round-Up: Mr. Freeze In THE BATMAN Sequel; WONDER WOMAN Casting, And More

A few DCU-related rumors have been doing the rounds, including whispers about the search for a new Wonder Woman, Mr. Freeze being introduced as the villain in Matt Reeves' The Batman sequel, and more...

By MarkCassidy - Jan 03, 2025 02:01 PM EST
Filed Under: Wonder Woman

With the DCU still very much in its infancy, there are bound to be rumors relating to a number of upcoming projects doing the rounds, and the recent news that Matt Reeves' The Batman sequel has been delayed by a full year has prompted a whole new wave of speculation about what James Gunn and Peter Safran might have in store for the Dark Knight.

The recent penultimate episode of Creature Commandos gave us a first glimpse of an animated take on the DCU's Batman, but people seem to be reading way too much into what is almost certainly a generic, placeholder silhouette of the character.

Though Gunn insists that a new actor will be cast as the Caped Crusader for The Brave and the Bold, Jeff Sneider is still adamant that the GOTG director would prefer to fold Reeves' BatVerse into the burgeoning cinematic universe and have Robert Pattinson stay on as the DCU's Batman.

As for Reeves' long-awaited sequel, Sneider believes that there could be some truth to the rumor that Mr. Freeze will be the movie's villain, which might tie into the winter setting. How this type of character would be integrated into the relatively grounded world of The Batman is anyone's guess, but it would be no more out-there than introducing Clayface (who has also been rumored).

One character we haven't heard much about since the initial DCU slate announcement is Wonder Woman, and there's been no movement on the Themyscira-based Paradise Lost series. Gal Gadot is highly unlikely to return, and even though we're probably still a long way off from a new take on Diana making her debut, is there a chance Gunn and co. have been quietly searching for a new actress to take on the role?

Sneider says that a "movie star" reached out to ask if he knew anything about this, as she had heard that casting might already be underway. We're not reading too much into this one, as it's something the trades would likely have picked up on by now.

Moving on to Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow and the recent news that Jason Momoa has been confirmed to make his debut as Lobo. According to MTTSH, the former Aquaman star is only expected to film for a few weeks, meaning his role is likely minor, but "more than a cameo." Cameras are scheduled to roll later this month.

The main villain will be Krem of the Yellow Hills, played by Matthias Schoenaerts (The Old Guard), but Alexander Skarsgård (The Northman) was reportedly DC Studios' first choice for the role.

The scooper has also heard that the Clayface movie is being fast-tracked, with a director expected to be assigned very soon for a late January/early February production start.

Finally - and this isn't exactly a rumor, but not really substantial enough for its own article - Gunn has confirmed that the events of Creature Commandos will have some impact on both Peacemaker season 2 and Lanterns

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MisterKite
MisterKite - 1/3/2025, 2:20 PM
What killed the dinosaurs?
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/3/2025, 2:21 PM
@MisterKite - User Comment Image
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 1/3/2025, 2:21 PM
@MisterKite - Vaccines
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 1/3/2025, 2:29 PM
@MisterKite - Duh ahhce ayge
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 1/3/2025, 2:38 PM
@MisterKite - Open borders.
thedrudo
thedrudo - 1/3/2025, 2:29 PM
Can’t believe Clayface could start that quick.
Usernametaken
Usernametaken - 1/3/2025, 5:18 PM
@thedrudo - Can't believe there are people in hollywood still greenlighting movies because of a good script.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/3/2025, 2:34 PM
I think Matthias Schoenarts is a fine choice for Krem in Suoergirl but Alexander Skarsgard could have worked too , maybe even fit better tbh…

Will be interesting to see if they give him more depth then he has in the comic where he’s just a psycho killer.

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Also I could see the rumor of Freeze being in The Batman 2 moreso then Clayface…

It would not only fit the apparent winter setting but I think you could do a more “grounded” take on Mr Freeze given the advancement of cryogenics in our reality.
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 1/3/2025, 2:40 PM
I know one gal that would perfect to play today's Wonder Woman!

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ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/3/2025, 4:03 PM
@Feralwookiee - I would be very interested in the reaction to that. People would be confused as to whether or not to be outraged or to champion it and what the correct moral stance would be. But I'm sure someone would tell them how to think, so it wouldn't be divisive for long.
dragon316
dragon316 - 1/3/2025, 5:22 PM
@Feralwookiee - I’m all for it next to surfboard she looks short
DanFlashesShirt
DanFlashesShirt - 1/3/2025, 2:44 PM
LMAO sure Jeff, “a movie star reached out” to YOU, and not their, oh idk… agent? 😂
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/3/2025, 2:47 PM
@DanFlashesShirt - dudes got a big ego for a small guy…

Some of his tweets have been so cringe.
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 1/3/2025, 3:07 PM
@DanFlashesShirt - Gina Carano confirmed.
PartyKiller
PartyKiller - 1/3/2025, 3:47 PM
@TheFinestSmack - She's on X too much to be busy trying out for Hollywood roles. And she's 42.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/3/2025, 4:08 PM
@PartyKiller - She could be Hippolyta.
DanFlashesShirt
DanFlashesShirt - 1/3/2025, 5:31 PM
@TheVisionary25 - i swear this guy just spreads gossip on the reg and then gets all butthurt demanding to know why he doesn’t get invited to press events
McMurdo
McMurdo - 1/3/2025, 5:44 PM
@DanFlashesShirt - this is the same guy whose DCU source said Stephan James was being cast as John Stewart only for Aaron Pierre to get the role 24 hours later.
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 1/3/2025, 2:45 PM
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DanFlashesShirt
DanFlashesShirt - 1/3/2025, 5:29 PM
@Nomis929 - no thanks, they should get an actual actress.
SATW42
SATW42 - 1/3/2025, 2:48 PM
It seems so simple to me.

It's on the nose but "Penguin" should ultimately be the "big bad" of the movie, with us finding out an even deeper shadowy network behind the scenes (The Court of Owls)

Freeze is a cyrogenics expert who gets into debt with the mob, maybe his wife is frozen but I don't think it's necessary to the story, and penguin forces him into working for him. Maybe the evolution of the drug needs to be frozen, maybe it's driving people crazy and needs to be kept at certain temperatures to remain stable and safe. Maybe penguin kills an enemy with one of freeze's machines and freeze watches on horrified.

Penguin can also use Eve KARLO as his clayface. We find out she's even better with costumes and make up and voice imitation then we thought and penguin uses her to get information on political enemies to help his attempted rise to the top, but this also ties into how Batman and Penguin stumble onto the court of owls.

It fits into the world, answers the "rumors" of freeze and clayface being involved while also remaining grounded and using Penguin in a way that still carries over from the events of his show.

Save whatever they have in mind for Selina and Sofia for a third movie or possible second season of Penguin (this time he's established his role in government and we learn more about the court of owls here)
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/3/2025, 2:57 PM
@SATW42 - seems like alot for one movie…

Also I don’t think they would have a plot point from the Penguin show play such a role in the movie just in case some haven’t seen it.

It’s a cool idea but I feel it being too interconnected might hurt it.
SATW42
SATW42 - 1/3/2025, 4:26 PM
@TheVisionary25 - they said the events of Penguin would directly lead into the batman 2. You don't have to have seen it to understand "penguins a crime boss now" especially since batman and gordon weren't around. Gordon briefing Batman on the events of the Penguin would literally be to educate Batman, and filmgoers who didn't see the show. I don't see the point in having Penguin rise to power, and lead into Batman 2, if it wasn't to world build and be part of the Batman 2 storyline in some way.

But anyway, is it really alot compared to the First The Batman? it only seems like alot because I wrote it out. Watch this.

Batman chasing down the Riddler whose terrorizing the city while also exposing this massive web of corruption that goes through all of Gotham, while also establishing the Maroni crime family, who the penguin is a henchmen for and has scenes with Batman to help connect the dots with the riddler. And oh yeah, Batman has this thing going on with catwoman, who, oh yeah is Maroni's daughter and also helps Batman get information on Riddler targets by going undercover in Penguins club. Eventually the Riddler is caught because he WANTED to be caught, but not before his big ending is successful and he blows up and floods the entire lower east side of gotham, and oh shit yeah, we find out he had a bunch of online mercanies who dress like him and are gunna take over MSG, but Batman stops them and realizes what kind of hero he needs to be, but oh wait, Riddler makes a friend in the Joker in the Asylum at the end!
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/3/2025, 4:43 PM
@SATW42 - well , when you out it like that lol

Fair enough.

I don’t particularly think Penguin will be the main baddie though since I think Farrell said he has only five or six scenes in the sequel (though that could now change) but he likely could have a pivotal role in the plot.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/3/2025, 3:09 PM
So a movie star reached out to Sneider, because they heard casting is underway? That's a weird-ass loop of a source if you ask me.

Anyway, I don't think casting is underway since I doubt scripts are finished. I wanna believe his Freeze rumour though, but only because I wanna see Freeze.
THEKENDOMAN
THEKENDOMAN - 1/3/2025, 4:05 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Valid point on the casting part. But then again, maybe there is a script and it hasn't been announced.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/3/2025, 5:58 PM
@THEKENDOMAN - could very well be Paradise Lost is further along than we think. Then again, we would've heard anything by now if that's the case. Not even a rumour as far as I know
THEKENDOMAN
THEKENDOMAN - 1/3/2025, 6:58 PM
@bkmeijer1 - yep
Nolanite
Nolanite - 1/3/2025, 8:10 PM
@bkmeijer1 - just do what everyone does and ask Gunn on his socials lulz 😅
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/4/2025, 4:59 AM
@Nolanite - that's always a possibility. Might just check first if someone else already asked and got a response
Forthas
Forthas - 1/3/2025, 3:30 PM
I have three preferences for Wonder Woman - two are popular choices while the other is out of the box. I would not mind Adria Arjona or Eiza González as Wonder Woman. But my out of the box pick is Mackenzie Davis. There is something about her that screams a quiet fierce strength. I am not sure what it is, but it something that I don't really get from most actresses that are considered for Wonder Woman.
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 1/3/2025, 3:48 PM
@Forthas - mackenzie davis is great. I also am a fan of elizabeth debicki. This is a pic of what she would look like with brown hair

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ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/3/2025, 4:08 PM
@CaptainFlapjaks - She's def got the stature. I also think Melissa Barrera and Katy O Brien would be good choices.
Forthas
Forthas - 1/3/2025, 4:08 PM
@CaptainFlapjaks - WOW! She looks really good! She seems a bit slender to me but with the dark hair she rocks!
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 1/3/2025, 5:15 PM
@ObserverIO - yes definitely katy obrien. Monica barbaro is another choice i like. But i can also see her as zatanna too.
CaptainFlapjaks
CaptainFlapjaks - 1/3/2025, 5:16 PM
@Forthas - yes slender but so was gadot before wonder woman. She can bulk up if need be.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 1/3/2025, 5:45 PM
@ObserverIO - Melissa Barrera lol. Good one!
RolandD
RolandD - 1/3/2025, 3:35 PM
I would like to institute a role here at CBM. Any article that has rumors from Jeff.Sneider should indicate so in the headline for the article so that I know not to waste my time. 😂
DanFlashesShirt
DanFlashesShirt - 1/3/2025, 6:13 PM
@RolandD - and MTTSH. And Daniel RPK. And Grace Randolph.

90% of the crap all of these people throw out there never pans out. And then they hit us with the “well they were going to, but plans changed…”
RolandD
RolandD - 1/3/2025, 6:22 PM
@DanFlashesShirt - You said it.
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