EDITORIAL: A petition to get FOX's superhero rights back to Marvel/Disney

EDITORIAL: A petition to get FOX's superhero rights back to Marvel/Disney

Would you like to see the Fantastic Four and X-Men to join in the Marvel Cinematic Universe? A Marvel fan is telling us that there is once chance to try to get Fox's attention to get X-Men's and Fantastic Four's rights back.

Editorial Opinion
By NewSuperAvengerCBM - Feb 22, 2013 12:02 PM EST
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Source: YouTube.com



A MARVEL fan named 'spiderteen911' has made a video explaining that there is one chance to get the rights that 20th Century Fox holds. Don't believe me? Then think about it.



Disney is in charge of The Amazing Spider-Man's merchandises. It means either using the character in future MCU films or just helping Sony to get back on business and try not to get bankrupt. Oscorp Tower was supposed to be in The Avengers as a part of an easter egg for the ending. Iron Man 3 is indeed going to have Colonel James Rhodes wearing an Iron Patriot suit which pays a homage to Norman Osborn's Dark Avengers' Iron Patriot suit. In "Item 47", there was one of the crooks wearing an Empire State University T-Shirt. Peter Parker attends to ESU. The university was also mentioned in the deleted scene of The Amazing Spider-Man. Marc Webb also tweeted a hint that Spider-Man MIGHT be involved in the MCU by replying "Think bigger." about the "massive Spider-Man universe". What can be larger than a Spider-Man universe? What if The Amazing Spider-Man was set AFTER The Avengers? Could it speculate the second attack of New York? And was that the point why there were so many cranes in the final battle? Maybe rebulding the city after the attack? In the movie Thor, in Odin's Vault there are several artifacts that are placed on the wall, like the Infinity Gauntlet, the Eternal Flame and a tablet which appeared in one of Spider-Man comics. Also, Ted Raimi mentioned Doctor Strange in Spider-Man 2, which is now going to become a movie in Phase 3 of MCU. Speaking of Raimi, Sam Raimi, who directed the original Spider-Man trilogy, wanted to make a Thor film before Spider-Man and before Marvel Cinematic Universe existed. For further proof, copy-and-paste the link here: http://m.moviepilot.com/stories/876375-will-spider-man-be-in-the-avengers-2?stamp=44935&subscribe_to=293035&utm_campaign=will-spider-man-be-in-the-avengers-2&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=fb-stream-post?stamp=44935&subscribe_to=293035&utm_campaign=will-spider-man-be-in-the-avengers-2&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=fb-stream-post
But enough with Spider-Man, we must get on focus with X-Men & FF.



Kevin Feige has rumored that The Avengers 3 might be a good movie to have a story-line based on Mark Millar's Civil War. It not only featured Iron Man, Captain America and Spider-Man, but also Fantastic Four and X-Men. If they would have to make this movie successfully, they have to use every Marvel character from that story arc. Not with the ones that are available, otherwise it won't be a Civil War film. Lauren Shuler Donner said that she would love to see a crossover with X-Men characters and other Marvel characters from the MCU. She might either talking about Wolverine joining The Avengers or see a reference like interacting with Steve Rogers or Bucky, or is she talking about a movie that could possibly be: The Avengers vs X-Men. Coldblood is one of the characters in the X-Men universe and he is actually going to appear in Iron Man 3. Granted it doesn't mean anything but it's worth mentioning it. Also, Nick Fury answered the final line in The Avengers movie to the Council by saying "A promise.". This was Stark's final line in the Civil War story-line when Tony became the head of SHIELD. And on top of all, Tony Stark gave away his identity! Maybe after The Amazing Spider-Man 3, when he could not save Gwen, he would tell his identity to the world and probably show why he can't keep his promise. It is also good to mention that Stark Tower's design was actually the same design from one of the Punisher comics. But does this mean that The Punisher is also a part of MCU? Because the last 2 Punisher films were flawed and didn't go so good. Are Lionsgate planning to revert their rights back to Marvel?



Remember this scene from the movie? I believe Joss Whedon knows how to make a fan happy with something to resembling something from Marvel Ultimate Alliance game...or a Civil War film!!! The game Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 was actually a game that focused a story arc from Civil War, but it went on a different note. Is there any point on seeing Steve fight against Stark, Peter and Logan facing off against Mr.Fantastic? I can think of plenty because a Civil War film would be a great idea!!!



Do you remember this shot from Captain America: The First Avenger? This might foreshadow the possible third Captain America film after The Avengers 3: Civil War, or at least it would. Bucky holding the shield would resemble Bucky as Captain America. It would be cool to see James Barnes to be promoted from Sergeant to Captain. The rumor could be true about a Civil War movie now that we know that the second film would have Captain America facing against his best friend. Then after hearing Steve's death, Bucky could step into Captain America's shoes to become like his friend. With so many heroes to interact with, like Spider-Man and Reed Richards to talk about the aftermath of the Civil War and Steve Rogers' death. How cool would it be to see Wolverine threatening Crossbones?



But can there be chance that Warner Brothers could sue Fox for stealing the look of Baraka from Mortal Kombat to use him for Deadpool? Let me give you a lesson. Mortal Kombat is a video game that was soon adapted into a movie and it didn't go so good from the critics, but it was well received from the hardcore fans of Mortal Kombat. Flawed, but it's still enjoyable. The movie was owned by New Line Cinema. NLC is now owned by Warner Brothers. With that, they made a game created by Warner Brothers Montreal. In X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Deadpool was like a copy-and-paste of the character owned by Warner Bros. If they saw the final battle from the movie and compare Deadpool with Baraka, WB would sue FOX for a large amount of money and FOX would probably go bankrupt. With that, then there could be a chance with getting the rights back! But who am I kidding, I'm talking about suing not comparing!



It would be a miracle to get a GOOD Fantastic Four movie. At least I find the first movie more enjoyable. Mostly because Chris Evans was the only good thing in this movie. But I didn't like the sequel. I was disappointed with Galactus, but Evans hasn't disappointed me yet and nobody could top him as Human Torch...or as Captain America. Fantastic Four is getting rebooted due to the negative reviews from the previous movies. And the reason it is mentioned here is because that 20th Century Fox was going to give back the rights to either Galactus & the Silver Surfer or Daredevil. Daredevil is now with Disney as is safe with Marvel. If they gave the rights of Galactus and Silver Surfer, then it would be great to have Galactus mentioned in James Gunn's Guardians of the Galaxy, or Silver Surfer facing against the Hulk in the live-action adaptation of World War Hulk. Unfortunately, it's Daredevil, but at least he's safe there. Speaking of the Hulk, they are starting to make Planet Hulk and World War Hulk adaptations. The story involved Bruce Banner exiled from Earth due to some anger problems. He was exiled by The Illuminati, which had Doctor Strange, Tony Stark, Charles Xavier and Reed Richards. As I said before, it won't be a good movie unless you have the characters right. It is great to see a Fantastic Four movie that is actually...fantastic!



So it is up to you Marvelites to make it happen! Disney made The Avengers not just for business, but also for us. We've waited for a superhero movie like no other and it was worth a wait! Sony did the same thing for The Amazing Spider-Man to show the true Spider-Man movie and stop getting bankrupt. Sadly, 20th Century Fox can't see what Marvel, Disney and Sony has done to their movies. Fox doesn't show any hope to develop the characters and that's why they end up being flawed. Especially with the first Wolverine movie with a horrible looking Deadpool. If they can get the rights back, then there is a chance with those movie to be good and get praised by lots of critics, giving positive reviews that it's one of the movies that many fans wanted. Sadly, they only do it for money. But it's good to get better directors to be in X-Men and Fantastic Four movies like Bryan Singer, Matthew Vaughn and Josh Trank. But it doesn't make a difference!

If that doesn't change your mind, then at least watch this video I mentioned before:



Copy and paste this link to the search engine if the video that was embedded doesn't work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDp3U2MJKH8

As he said, this is a petition to get as many Marvel fans as we can to get FOX's attention on how much we love those characters and in return, we might something that we've been waiting for a long time. If twenty-five thousand people could sign a petition to create a real-life Death Star, but get declined by the government, then I'm sure this can happen the same, but not get declined by 20th Century Fox. This not exactly a signing-a-petition type of petition, but like a 30'000 views and likes type of petition in order to get their attention.

Can you help spreading the word? Do you want FOX to give their rights back to Marvel and Disney where they belong, or do you want to see how FOX will screw up again? So please pass this on to your friends, your family and most importantly...your fans!
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Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 2/22/2013, 12:54 PM
if warner bros was going to sue fox they would have done it by now, besides they could say there version of deadpool is inspired by baraka, there are some differences, as long as fox keeps making movies they keep the rights, so this petetion is just wishful thinking.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 2/22/2013, 12:54 PM
Well of course!

FOX has destroyed most of the Marvel characters they've put on the big screen...

IF all the rights were back at Marvel, no true Marvel fan would not want that, c'mon we need our Marvel characters done right and at home where they truly belong!
NewSuperAvengerCBM
NewSuperAvengerCBM - 2/22/2013, 2:10 PM
HAVE ANY OF YOU SEEN THE VIDEO???
FirstAvenger
FirstAvenger - 2/22/2013, 2:22 PM
The video won't play. As far as the petition goes it won't work but worth a try.
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 2/22/2013, 2:45 PM
Hahaha, when I clicked the article, I was preparing myself for maybe a page and a half written by the DC-hating Marvel fanboy named "AcidicHeart".... but this is worse. It means the ignorance is spreading, although to be fair, a lot of people have similar ideas, so I guess this shouldn't be a surprise.

If Marvel had the rights to every single property - one of two possible things would happen.

1) The market would become EVEN MORE oversaturated with at least three Marvel CBMS a year, likely tying together a larger story that will last until the new year comes around. Anticipation will be at an all-time-low, expectations would be through the roof, and appreciation would be non-existent. The fanbase would be destroyed, if not mortally wounded.

or

2) Marvel would keep doing what it's doing, pushing out one or two movies a year depending on the budget, scope, cast. You'll be waiting and waiting and waiting, but you just won't get your X-Men movies until they decide to give it a rest with their larger properties, at which point the Marvel direction would be almost exclusively MUTANT, and all the other fanbases would feel neglected.

There is a third option, but it's just not ready yet. People are too close-minded to embrace movies for thrill and fun they can deliver, and focus solely on the characters included.

3) Marvel COULD make movies that aren't exclusive to set characters, telling far more original stories (just with some slight references) spread over a greater Marvel population not so much to include everyone, but to include the characters who are relevant to the themes.

Example: if the Punisher hunts down and opens fire on a bunch of gun-runners and drug dealers in Hell's Kitchen, he's going to have to answer to Daredevil. Considering the artillery involved, Castle probably would have some help from Manhattan's not-so-friendly neighborhood schizophrenic. You don't blow up that much of New York without the webslinger noticing - and boom, we have a big lovely standoff between the Marvel Knights characters who patrol the back-alleys of New York.

Another example: Galactus gets hungry and decides to munch on Earth. Obviously everyone is going to have a stake in this bit (haha, punny) but consider who is equipped to fight, disable, or otherwise STOP Galactus from having his noms. It has to have the Fantastic Four. It would make sense for the Avengers to respond, since Avengers Tower is situated pretty close to the Baxter Building, but there are specific characters within the Avengers. You're not going to have Hercules try to bark orders at the Devourer of Worlds, nor would you have the Hulk try to smash a cosmic deity. Not only because of how ineffective they would be, but because the Fantastic Four would already have their supply of "well that's not going to work" with Ben. Someone from the with access to the Kree databanks might be of help...

So yeah, enjoy what you have, for what it's worth, it could be a LOT worse than you're making it out to be.
sikwon
sikwon - 2/22/2013, 2:58 PM
It could also be ALOT better. Im not so much looking for Civil War. Im looking for the DD, Punisher, Spidey example. I want that. Remember in Punisher War Journal when Castle and Wolverine were fighting in the jungle? It was 2 issues of friggen awesome.
TheSuperguy
TheSuperguy - 2/22/2013, 3:22 PM
Whoever started this petition is one of the greatest heroes in comic book history. He ranks up there with SUPERMAN, BATMAN, SPIDER-MAN, etc.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!

Let's hope this works...
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 2/22/2013, 3:32 PM
AcidicHeart,
You're right, I'm mistaken. You love all DC characters, and can't wait for a Flash movie to be made.
Spideyguy94
Spideyguy94 - 2/22/2013, 3:53 PM
@LEVITIKUZ Why limit yourself to just a DC fan? At the end of the day we are all comic book geeks so why not enjoy it all?
darkjoker1
darkjoker1 - 2/22/2013, 4:07 PM
i agree with your points and yes we should get back X-men and F4 but the signatures is impossble to get....i would so love to see a Civil war movie..
Spideyguy94
Spideyguy94 - 2/22/2013, 4:10 PM
@LEVITKUZ Judging from that comment it came off a bit like you don't like marvel but fair enough. I want DC to succeed too, I want a flash movie to happen but I think WB don't realise the goldmine they are sitting on and how the DC characters could easily become they're next franchise.
ToTheManInTheColdSweat
ToTheManInTheColdSweat - 2/22/2013, 5:51 PM
ugh, another "boycott fox studios" stupidity.
Ghostt
Ghostt - 2/22/2013, 7:01 PM
As much as FOX has screwed up, I think they are now on the right track. Millard and Vaughn are comic guys, so they'll be fine.

With multiple companies making more CBMs we get to watch more CBMs, and that is a great thing.

So chill, but thanks for contributing
Wallymelon
Wallymelon - 2/22/2013, 9:13 PM
you are incredibly annoying, why would you want marvel to on the rights to everything. it costs money to produce movies fool. they will only realistically be able to put out at the most 4 movies a year.
Spideyguy94
Spideyguy94 - 2/23/2013, 4:51 AM
@Ashleytdkr why are you calling me out on something I wasn't even talking to you about? I was having a small friendly discussion with levitikuz. First off star wars and star trek are 2 things that have been put together by people who aren't fans of either, Star Wars is a science fantasy adventure while Star Trek is a science fiction drama that more adult themes than Star Wars. While marvel and DC are 2 very similar things which is comic book companies that do superheroes. So comparing marvel and DC to Star Trek and Star Wars is a very unfair comparison. Just because I think if people limit themselves to just marvel or DC they miss out on some great stuff from both sides, doesn't mean I think they can't. If people do limit themselves to just one they hey good for you more power to you that's they're decision.
But the industry suffers if a log of people do that.


And at what point did I say WB should do a DC cinematic universe or rush it they're DC properties out because I was very against justice league coming out in 2015. Yes WB are making other movies like the hangover 3 and the hobbit trilogy, but the hangover will be done after this year most likely and the hobbit will be done by next year. And yeah they make things like dramas and rom-coms but so do Sony and fox and they manage to get spider-man and x-men movies out every couple of years. and rom-coms don't make the money superhero movies do. I'm not saying WB should be getting 2 CBMs out every year like marvel studios because like you said marvel studios only make CBMs. But they could of easily made a flash or Wonder Woman movie since this big CBM boom. Hopfully they will if man of steel performs well, but the fact that they are waiting to see how man of steel does worries me.
arashini
arashini - 2/23/2013, 5:46 AM
sigh....
AC1
AC1 - 2/23/2013, 6:33 AM
Guys, having the films back at Marvel isn't a guarantee of them being good. Marvel's films have mostly been good so far, but they've yet to make a truly amazing movie (Avengers was pure spectacle fun, but nothing special story-wise), and they've had a stinker or two as well - Iron Man 2 was crap, and Incredible Hulk was alright but very forgettable.

Plus, do any of you realise that Marvel Studios do have an input in the films made by other studios? Kevin Feige has produced every single Marvel-based movie since the first X-Men was released in 2000. You all need to learn that the studio isn't the main indicator of whether the film will be good or not - it's the creative team behind the film (director, writers, etc) who are ultimately responsible for the finished product.

Of course, studios do sometimes interfere, as Sony and Fox both have in the past, but they don't seem to be doing that anymore.

For more reasons on why Disney owning all of Marvel's film rights, see @Tainted87s list of reasons above. Plus, you have to remember that Disney doesn't only make Marvel movies - they merely provide Marvel's money. Marvel would be receiving the same amount of money from Disney but they'd have more properties to develop, meaning a) we still get two movies a year meaning we have to wait longer to see different characters, or b) they make more movies with less money, meaning they may end up shit anyway (since these movies do tend to rely on effects just as much as story).
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 2/23/2013, 6:33 AM
The X-Men had literally nothing to do with Civil War. Aside from Iron Man making a deal with Cyclops to not get involved...which didnt even happen in the main story.

The Fantastic Four didnt either. Thing went to Europe until the whole thing blew over, Torch was in a coma, and Sue went and lived with Namor. They could easily replace Reed with someone else.

Wolverine didnt have anything to do with the main story either.

Spidey was important in the sense that he started out on Iron Man's team, revealed his identity, then switched to Cap's side. However, Marvel now has the rights to Daredevil and he could easily replace Spidey for those events.

So really, no, Marvel wouldn't need any of the Fox/Sony characters to make Civil War.
marvel72
marvel72 - 2/23/2013, 8:16 AM
as much as i would love marvel studios to have all its character back,its not gonna happen anytime soon.

if fox made better movies out of the likes of fantastic four & x-men i wouldn't care if they kept them.
TheSuperguy
TheSuperguy - 2/23/2013, 11:34 AM
Would be kinda cool to to see a FoX-Men movie to make like, $700,000 in it's entire theatrical run because the fans got so fed up with their crap movies that nobody went to see it. Then the rights reverted back to Marvel Studios, and we got an awesome reboot.
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 2/23/2013, 12:08 PM
@CorndogBurglar
You and I remember Civil War a bit differently. In the main story (as in, the Civil War tpb), Tony meets with EMMA FROST, and they agree to stay out of each other's way. What isn't exactly expounded on is the segment directly after where Bishop would like a word in private with Mr Stark.

Sue goes to Namor for HELP, not to stay with him. Johnny is in a coma for one issue, not even a quarter of the story. The two are recruited by Cap, change their identities, pose as a couple (which freaks Johnny out because Sue's like twice the age of his usual girlfriends - which is kinda disturbing), and help out in the Negative Zone prison break.

By the way - Negative Zone - that's a complete and utter Fantastic Four invention. I guess you could probably substitute Pym's Big House, and put Reed into Hank altogether, but you know, it would be a huge detraction.

You'd be skimping out on some pretty dramatic moments, such as when Sue leaves Reed after Bill Foster is killed, or when Sue goes APESHIT on Taskmaster when he's stabbed Reed in the final climax....

Of the big guys, the most important are...
Cap
Iron Man
Fantastic Four
Spider-man
Luke Cage
Punisher
Daredevil
Hank Pym's Sleeper Skrull
Young Avengers
Namor
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 2/23/2013, 3:17 PM
Wow, you're right, i had forgotten about Johnny and Sue doing that.

As for Emma and Bishop...that is hardly important. I know Bishop joined Stark, but he wasnt much of a big player except in the x-men tie in, but that really isnt needed.

But yeah, you're right about the F4. I havent read Civil War since it came out, i own every issue and tie in, but i guess i forgot about that.

It could still be done without them, but you're right, those are pretty dramatic moments.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 2/23/2013, 3:21 PM
Jokerfan

If they were forced to start making crappy straight to DVD movies, it would only be a matter of time before they realized it wasnt worth their time.

Just look at Punisher and Daredevil. They were financial and critical failures and the studios didnt bother with straight to DVD films for them. They just let the rights revert.

But you're still right, the best we can do is hope for good movies because unfortunately, the general audience far outweighs us comic fans. So even if every comic fan signed a petition or boycotted, the general audience wouldstill make them enough money, more than likely.
NewSuperAvengerCBM
NewSuperAvengerCBM - 2/23/2013, 4:50 PM
Listen people, if Who Framed Roger Rabbit? had all of Warner Brothers and Disney Characters all in one movie by a different company with no contracts whatsoever, then I'm pretty sure that can happen with Marvel/Disney/Sony and FOX.
IronSpider691
IronSpider691 - 2/23/2013, 9:34 PM
Disney wipes it's ass with a billion dollars, why not just buy the rights? I can see why Sony is holding on to the rights as hard as they can because they're company is going down the tubes, while Fox is doing fine
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 2/23/2013, 10:59 PM
Highly doubt this will happen. Besides FOX and Sony make better movies then MS, well they feel like movies. MS movies are like TV shows short and quick. And they hire directors with no vision becasue the ones who do have visions and are creative are always booted out becasue marvel and fiege want it done a certain way. There has been a dip in the quality of MS movies since IM. Oh and I'm pretty sure Fox( the worst company for CBMs claimed by ignorant marvel fanboys) had a more crtically successful movie then the two MS movies competing against it.
OcciferPing
OcciferPing - 2/24/2013, 9:11 PM
Okay, here are a couple of things you are probably too ignorant to understand given how much nonsense there was in your article:

1) If FOX were to give back X-Men and Fantastic 4 to MARVEL, do you know how long it would take before you even see a movie from them again? Given the fact that MARVEL is completely focused on building up Phase 2 & Phase 3, I seriously doubt they would make any of those movies soon.

2) Be grateful that you even have X-Men and Fantastic 4 movies to begin with. Before Brian Singer even launched X-Men, no one gave a frick about Superhero movies.

3) Sure, they may not on be to par with some of you comic book fans, but I would love, LOVE, to see you make a better movie. I seriously doubt any of you complainers about those movies (and even Transformers, etc) are filmmakers yourselves or could even make a better movie. You wouldn't know what to do with $100 million if a Producer placed it in your lap. You would make a s****fest that would make even Uwe Boll look good.

Regardless, they're not gonna care about what you think. As long as they keep making $$$$ off of it, there's no point in arguing and trying to start petitions. Just be grateful you even have people interested in making these films.


fortycals
fortycals - 2/25/2013, 6:39 AM
This is even sillier than the boycott idea. Lets look at it from a different perspective. A down on his luck pimp has 4 hoes. He needs some fast cash to pay for bail, so he sells 3 of his hoes to other established pimps, only keeping his bottom bitch. So the down on his luck pimp gets out of jail, and his bottom bitch blows up. Now all the Tricks think that his old hoes, that he sold, were better working for the Down on his luck pimp. So all the tricks, who are gonna trick reguardless, sign a petition for the established pimps give back the 3 hoes they brought fair and square. What do you think those established pimps are gonna do.

Sorry its not sound buissness to give away or sell, that much potential. The more I think about it the more I would dislike MS getting the rights back at this point. Marvel has always treated the xmen like second class characters for what ever reason. Ive pointed out examples before but you only need one. When marvel was selling movie rights they sold xmen and not avengers. If they ever did get the rights back, the xmen would officially be on the back burner.
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