Rotten Tomatoes Faces Backlash As PR Firm Reportedly Pays For Positive Reviews

Rotten Tomatoes Faces Backlash As PR Firm Reportedly Pays For Positive Reviews

In an article that really reads more like a hit-piece, it's claimed that a PR firm paid a certain amount of Rotten Tomatoes critics to post positive reviews to the aggregator...

By MarkCassidy - Sep 07, 2023 09:09 AM EST
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Like it or not, Rotten Tomatoes has become the most popular and recognisable metric for gauging film criticism (online or otherwise), but the review aggregator has always faced backlash, and this new report is not going to do the site's reputation any favors.

According to Vulture, a movie PR company called Bunker 15 paid a number of critics to add positive reviews of 2018's Ophelia, a feminist retelling of Hamlet starring Daisy Ridley, to Rotten Tomatoes in order to boost the movie's score. Apparently, the company went about recruiting "obscure, often self-published critics who are nevertheless part of the pool tracked by Rotten Tomatoes," offering them $50 for their work.

Ophelia’s production company, Covert Media, declined to comment, but Bunker 15’s founder, Daniel Harlow, responded with the following.

“Wow, you are really reaching there. We have thousands of writers in our distribution list. A small handful have set up a specific system where filmmakers can sponsor or pay to have them review a film.”

Not exactly a categorical denial!

Movie studios often downplay the importance of reviews, but their marketing practices tell a different story. Whereas pull-quotes have always been the norm, we've begun to see the "Fresh" tomato symbol and score take their place, often without much in the way of context.

“The studios didn’t invent Rotten Tomatoes, and most of them don’t like it,” says veteran filmmaker Paul Schrader. “But the system is broken. Audiences are dumber. Normal people don’t go through reviews like they used to. Rotten Tomatoes is something the studios can game. So they do.”

Schrader, a former critic himself, also takes issue with RT's system.

“I read some reviews of my own films where the writer might say that he doesn’t think that I pull something off, but, boy, is it interesting in the way that I don’t pull it off. To me, that’s a good review, but it would count as negative on Rotten Tomatoes.”

It's worth noting that individual critics decide whether their reviews will be marked "fresh" or "rotten" when they submit them. It's also worth noting that this is just one small PR company, and one instance of (supposed) review tampering - though there are likely to be others that have gone unnoticed.

Even so, the author of Vulture's piece makes no effort to hide their disdain for the aggregator, and many feel the article was written with the sole intention of fostering more negativity towards the site.

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ferf
ferf - 9/7/2023, 9:33 AM
We all knew this, but only pretended it happened for the ones we disagreed with
SummersEssex
SummersEssex - 9/7/2023, 9:38 AM
@ferf - This
Matchesz
Matchesz - 9/7/2023, 11:21 AM
@ferf - Disney definitely cashed out
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 9/7/2023, 9:34 AM
Had any of the reviewers on this site whose reviews were published on RT also been paid for positive reviews?

MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 9/7/2023, 9:39 AM
@WhatIfRickJames - No... Not unless the lads have been keeping some major secrets 😂 in all seriousness, this came as a shock to me. I really didn't think it happened outside of studios maybe giving freebies or flying critics in for premiers etc, which can obviously lead to reviews being more positive than they might have been.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 9/7/2023, 9:43 AM
@WhatIfRickJames - You have to ask that especially when they start a “news” article with “ In an article that really reads more like a hit-piece.”

It does make you wonder,
ReverseFlasher
ReverseFlasher - 9/7/2023, 9:45 AM
@MarkCassidy - lmao next in-person meeting josh rolls up in the lambo
MaxPaint
MaxPaint - 9/7/2023, 10:32 AM
@TyrantBossMedia - Got 'em.
KindredMac
KindredMac - 9/7/2023, 9:36 AM
WHAT?!?!?! RT ISN'T LEGIT?!?!?!?!
Well color me shocked....
/sarcasm

I have Millennial friends who ONLY go by RT reviews and numbers as to whether or not they are going to watch a movie and it has always blown my mind.
I cannot tell you how many times I have watched a movie on Netflix and other services which showcased a rotten score only to LOVE the movie.
Too many sheeple in the world now.
Vigor
Vigor - 9/7/2023, 9:57 AM
@KindredMac - millenial here ✋🏾
If it's a movie on Netflix or other streaming service, then I won't put too much weight on the review score. Afterall I'm watching it to pass time

But movies in the theater require me to make time and cough up money (and get a babysitter). So I do take the general consensus on RT to help me determine if it's worth seeing a movie on the big screen.
For instance the latest Fast and Furious movie. I'm so glad I didn't see it in the theaters. It was entertaining but not worth me going to the movies to see it
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 9/7/2023, 10:23 AM
@KindredMac - RT to my knowledge only lets critics publish their reviews and score it. Its still the best tool to get a quick consensus on what critics think about a movie. Critics can be bought but RT cannot be manipulated, so thats why its still a reliable review aggregator unlike sites like IMDB which are user rated and unchecked.

Scores are just opinions and differ amongs people so no 1 can really tell you if a movie sucks. The Fresh and Unfresh rating measures "expectations" more than a score. When Meg 2 and Gran Turismo's early reviews came out they both had the same average review of 5.9/10 but had 2 different RT scores. Meg 2 had a 25% while GT had a 60%. Both average movies but alot of critics gave Gran Turismo a fresh score instead of Meg 2 because GT met expectations more than disappointed. Knowing how to interpret the scores helps you better understand what the critics are trying to convey.
KindredMac
KindredMac - 9/8/2023, 9:49 AM
@Vigor - How about you watch the trailer and if it interests you then you go? That seems fairly simple of a concept instead of letting other people make up your mind for you.
Vigor
Vigor - 9/8/2023, 10:04 AM
@KindredMac - trailers are made to look good. It's marketing. And marketing firms get paid millions of dollars to do a really good job of convincing you to see a movie. I've been burned by trailers before. So instead I use a combination of trailers, reviews, and my own intuition to determine if I'm going to invest time to go to the movies
MarvelousMarty
MarvelousMarty - 9/7/2023, 9:41 AM
Naive to think it doesn't go on in the critic world. Goes on it almost every industry.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 9/7/2023, 9:42 AM
“ In an article that really reads more like a hit-piece.”

There’s nothing like starting a “News” article with a massive up front opinion.

If you want to inject your opinion then label it “opinion”

What a 🤡show
ProudPatriot76
ProudPatriot76 - 9/7/2023, 9:43 AM
I’ve never once let RT determine my interest in a movie. I do wonder if the same practice is done to write negative reviews for movies too 🤔
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 9/7/2023, 12:12 PM
@ProudPatriot76 - same here man. and i bet they do, that wouldnt shock me at all... lets sabotage the competition
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 9/7/2023, 9:46 AM
Yes, I think most normal human people realised this BS back when Black Panther and Captain Miss Marvel came out.
WakandanQueen
WakandanQueen - 9/7/2023, 9:52 AM
@harryba11zack - Ah yes, the infamous payroll to get Captain Marvel "ugh, it's fine I guess" reviews on Rotten Tomatoes.
Origame
Origame - 9/7/2023, 11:10 AM
@WakandanQueen - ...captain marvel is currently at an 80%. That means 80% gave it a positive review.

If we were to say that the audience score would be about the same as the critics score without paying, then (prior to the constant changes they were openly doing to the audience score), then the critics score would be 30%.

So it's very possible the studios paid for 50% of critics to give a positive review. That's pretty f@#$ing significant.

And if you mean the individual reviews are just OK, that doesn't matter with how rotten tomatoes works. It's basically on a pass/fail system with the critics.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 9/7/2023, 11:28 AM
@Origame - the movies other indications like BO and Cinemascore point to the movie being review bombed on RT more than that being an accurate depiction of what audiences think. A 30% RT movie isn't going to get that BO or Cinemascore - it just isn't.
RitoRevolto
RitoRevolto - 9/7/2023, 11:56 AM
@harryba11zack - Aww, you're so mad.
Origame
Origame - 9/7/2023, 12:09 PM
@Itwasme - first of all, the transformers franchise has been getting that low yet making bank at the BO.

Second of all, why is your assumption to say it must be RT that's wrong and manipulated when both are in extreme degrees? It really isn't that weird a generic origin story is getting an A despite the entire genre moving on from that formula?
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 9/7/2023, 1:40 PM
@RitoRevolto - pointing out a fact doesn't make someone mad my son.
EgoEgor
EgoEgor - 9/7/2023, 2:23 PM
@harryba11zack - Of all the movies you could've used, the almost infinite amount of choices you had at your disposal and you choose THESE 2. I wonder. Also ironic when you consider that those movies were reviewed bomb by audiences before the movies even came out, causing them to change their policies.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 9/7/2023, 7:44 PM
@Origame - not really. Cinemscore is done via in-person surveys and BO is hard data. RT is done by anonymous voting that can easily be manipulated with bots and other pieces. 2 are very reliable forms of data, but the other not so much. The patterns for review bombing are pretty transparent too. RT easily identifies it and calls it out themselves. Not sure what credibility you'd refer to when the platform itself says its false.
Origame
Origame - 9/7/2023, 8:47 PM
@Itwasme - ...first of all, surveys are very easy to manipulate depending on what you want it to say. And second, BO is hard data that shows people have seen the film. Not that they liked it. In fact captain marvel was guaranteed to be a success by proxy to endgame as infinity war implied it was gonna be important for endgame context.

And what transparent pattern? That they didn't like it? Come on.
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