Should The Internet Fans Be Heard Or Just Shut Up?

Should The Internet Fans Be Heard Or Just Shut Up?

I think it rocks that Iron Man 2 is basing there success or failure blamed on the movies director listening to ideas from the fans.

By jman1977 - May 28, 2009 12:05 PM EST
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Source: www.cinematical.com

Should our voices be heard? That's like asking "Should Bale change his Batman voice?" The answer is Hell yes. Even though some of our opinions are way off and based only on our own selfish desires, some of us have very good and crystal clear points. If I were a director I would be on this site just to consider what the TRUE fans want and expect. What better experience to collect then experience from someone who has grown up watching or reading there favorite comic book character for 10, 15, sometimes 20 years. That's 20 years of experience or do you take the experience from say a overpaid writer or studio heads who only care about the bottom line?

More from Peter over at Cinematical:

"Lane Brown at New York Magazine's Vulture blog takes that idea further, giving odds on four "massively anticipated" movies that will 'have their failure blamed on a director listening to people on the Internet.' Lane lists Jon Favreau's Iron Man 2, Quentin Tarantino's Inglourious Basterds, Spike Jonze's Where the Wild Things Are, and Sylvester Stallone's The Expendables as the most likely suspects.

Personally, I see nothing wrong with filmmakers paying attention to what fans are saying. And if they choose to change their movies based on the opinions of an unruly mob of fanboys, that says more about them than it does about the Internet."

Let your voices be heard. I think it rocks that Iron Man 2, Inglourious Basterds, Where the Wild Things Are, and The Expendables are basing there success or failure blamed on the movies director listening to ideas from the fans. That's what this site is all about!!!!

What do you guys think? Should your voice as ComicBookMovie fans continue to be heard? Or should we all just shut up and wait for the movie to come out before saying a word?

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KeepItReal
KeepItReal - 5/28/2009, 12:50 PM
I wanna be heard!! I want to be FIRST in voicing my opinions when they make the movies especially with WOnder Woman!!!

We are the fans! We are the loyal followers. We will make or break a movie sometimes. We are the ones they need to concern themselves with because we are the ones who care the most. We should be given the consideration, have our voices heard!
YohonKalic
YohonKalic - 5/28/2009, 12:52 PM
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VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!!

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KeepItReal
KeepItReal - 5/28/2009, 12:53 PM
VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!
TheNameIsBetty
TheNameIsBetty - 5/28/2009, 12:56 PM
AYAYAYAYAYAIAAYAIAIA!

Nerds, ASSEMBLE!
Betty
Betty - 5/28/2009, 12:58 PM
I know if I was making a comic book film, I would want to know what the fans were sayin'. Although, some fans are dumb assholes and know nothing about script writing, story telling or really anything about cinema.

I think it all has to do with how much work you want to put into a film. If you want it to be timeless and great, hire a group of "experts" in that area of comicdom. Preferably people that take it seriously. And then pay them.
KeepItReal
KeepItReal - 5/28/2009, 12:59 PM
YOHON!!! YOU WENT BACK ON YOUR WORD! YOU BETTER GIVE ME THAT WHAT YOU HAVE PROMISED!!!
Shaman
Shaman - 5/28/2009, 1:02 PM
VIVA LA BUTTERNUTT SQUASH!!!
Betty
Betty - 5/28/2009, 1:04 PM
VIVA LA ONION!
TheJester
TheJester - 5/28/2009, 1:05 PM
Why not speak to Marvel, and their writers to what "works".

Horses head vs Horses Ass.

Yeah yeah yeah, end user bullshit, but I doubt I would take advice from the same insipid [frick]wads that would just DL the [frick]ing movie and not pay to see it, on top of that, slews of posts ensuing, sniveling and bitching about it for months on end. (wolverine much?)

The problem is....MONEY...people still pay to see crap, so why bother putting extra time into it, when they can bang one out and make some dough?

Its the tried and true formula the industry has used, and will continue to do so because the AVERAGE MOVIE GOER will pay to see it.

Nuff said.
YohonKalic
YohonKalic - 5/28/2009, 1:11 PM
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Dont try to bully me by sending me pics of your red white and blue panties, you got try harder to get it from me!

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KeepItReal
KeepItReal - 5/28/2009, 1:25 PM
OH... I SEE WHAT GAME THIS IS... I KNOW WHAT YOU WANT... ITS ALRIGHT.. I DONT WANT THE SCOOBY SNACK... I MEAN... JUST CUZ YOU MADE A PROMISE AND COULDNT DELIVER EVEN THE NO NAME BRANDS... ITS COOL... I SHOULDNT JUDGE. THIS IS TOUGH TIMES WE LIVE IN. NOT EVERYONE HAS HONOR. ME I COME FROM OLD WHERE IF SOMEONE GIVES YOU THEIR WORD IT MEANS SOMETHING. CUZ AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN THERES NOTHING LEFT YOUR WORD IS ALL YOU GOT. GUESS YOURS DOESNT MEAN MUCH. I WONT TRY TOO HARD FOR ANYTHING TO GET ANYTHING BECAUSE I HAVE HONOR AND PRIDE. I DID NOT ASK FOR IT, YOU OFFERED. MY IMAGE OF YOU WILL BE FOREVER OF THIS MOMENT. TARNISHED. I THOUGHT YOU WERE ONE OF THE GOOD ONES. IM DISAPPOINTED BUT I'LL GET OVER IT. GIVE ME A SECOND. HEY, SHIT HAPPENS. TTYL MAN. KEEP THE SCOOBY SNACK. LOOKS LIKE YOU NEED IT MORE.
TheJester
TheJester - 5/28/2009, 1:32 PM
My point made.
Shaman
Shaman - 5/28/2009, 1:32 PM
You know, i don't know what all this bitching is about. I mean... some of those "no name" brands are pretty good, sometimes even better than the original. Don't knock it til you try it! That's my word at the end of the day :)
Set2Fallfirst
Set2Fallfirst - 5/28/2009, 1:33 PM
Yea like as someone who is an actor. If i was doing black panther which would be SICK. I'd come here an ask for opinions but see i know who to ask opinions from like Supermike is a HELL NO.But Shaman,TheMyth,Rorscach1 and Leee7 and Betty would be my sources. I'd ask you guys what you'd like to see on screen?
YohonKalic
YohonKalic - 5/28/2009, 1:43 PM
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@KeepItReal

"Your right, I have dishonored both you and myself."

~Preforms Seppuku~

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KeepItReal
KeepItReal - 5/28/2009, 1:44 PM
NAH Shaman... there is nothing wrong with the no name brands at all. I do use them. I just wanted my picture of Gerad Butler, since he offered.. just a lil sumtin, sumtin. but he went back on his word! I cant post pics so you know... lol....
KeepItReal
KeepItReal - 5/28/2009, 1:47 PM
Yohon: "Your right, I have dishonored both you and myself."

~Preforms Seppuku~

Dude... nothing so dramatic... an ear will do. teeheehee =:p
YohonKalic
YohonKalic - 5/28/2009, 1:54 PM
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~Lies on floor dieing.~

"Could have told me that sooner.."

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ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 5/28/2009, 2:01 PM
Although I find it irritating like most, Bale should NOT change his bat voice. Here's why;

Nolans Batman world is built around realism. Keeping that in mind put yourself in Bruce Waynes position. You are one of the richest men in the world with a voice heard by many. You have come up with your new identity with a costume to hide who you are. But that voice can give you away easily. What do you do? Put on a voice! What voice? Well for most, putting on an accent is easily lost while in tense situations. Think about it honestly, you would come up with something along the same lines as Bale! It all adds to the realism of the films! Yes it's annoying but it is spot on!
Shaman
Shaman - 5/28/2009, 2:11 PM
KeepItReal- But i posted a shitload of Gerry pics just for you on the other thread!!!
KeepItReal
KeepItReal - 5/28/2009, 2:20 PM
Shaman... whyioughta!!! you and you devilish ways!!! you were deliberately misleading... LOL....
TheMyth
TheMyth - 5/28/2009, 2:20 PM
I think like all advice, our opinions should be considered and acknowledged, not adhered too. It would be incredibly foolish to simply ignore people like us. The knowledge us fanboys possess would be quite useful.

@BmanHall: lol agreed.
Spock
Spock - 5/28/2009, 2:46 PM
SOUND OFF FOR EQUIPMENT CHECK!!! oK, they should listen thou even half of us couldn't afford to make a movie anyway unless it seriously under budget & chem light special effects. It could be usefull.
alten2345
alten2345 - 5/28/2009, 2:53 PM
Opinions are like assh*oles. Every body has one and they're shitty most of the time:)
WulfComicFan
WulfComicFan - 5/28/2009, 2:59 PM
I THINK THEY SHOULD LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THE HELL THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, SOME OF US HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE WITH SOME THAN OTHERS, AND IT'S PRETTY EASY TO TELL WHO IS WHO. SOME STUFF I WOULDNT BOTHER TO SAY ANYTHING CUZ I AM NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT, BUT OTHERS I HAVE FOLLOWED FOR MANY A YEAR, AND WOULD GLADLY GIVE MY OPINION. IF THEY LISTEN TO THE REAL FANS SHYTE LIKE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE AND PUNISHER (80'S DOLPH LUNDGREN) WOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN MADE!I FULLY AGREE WITH THEMYTH. WE ARE AN UNTAPPED VAULT OF KNOWLEDGE AND OPINION!
adamant877
adamant877 - 5/28/2009, 3:01 PM
I think input by the fans is very important, but even MORE important is the source material.

Take Frank Miller for example...
The guy had one hell of a time with The Spirit, because, quite frankly, The Spirit is before (most of us) our time, and noone understood the concepts being used in the film, dismissing them as Sin City-esque.
It's (to those more familiar) VERY true to the original character/story concepts.
Now, had Frank listened to the fans and changed the color of Denny Colt's suit to blue instead of black, do you think it would have effected the box office numbers? How about if he had splashed more color onto the screen, and gotten rid of the dulled-down scheme?
I think this is a tough debate indeed!
Killian
Killian - 5/28/2009, 3:17 PM
No one's opionion will out weigh the allmighty dollar.
loganoneil
loganoneil - 5/28/2009, 3:34 PM
Case in point people - what about that AWESOME fan-made Green Lantern short that's on YouTube (and linked on this site)? I'd KILL to see made into a feature film (and I imagine I wouldn't be the only one in line)! I think if the person has demonstrated a love of the source material, then he/she should be listened to.
SoulAllFlush
SoulAllFlush - 5/28/2009, 4:20 PM
IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU CAN'T BE TOO CAREFUL

seriously though, HYS stuff is just the worst.
comicb00kguy
comicb00kguy - 5/28/2009, 4:54 PM
The first Iron Man proved that you can listen to the comic fans on the Internet and make a film that will please most of them because it's true to the source material and will also please the mainstream audiences that make or break a film. I have the highest respect for Favreau for wanting to "get it right". I wish more directors had that attitude. I'd rather see one good comic book movie than ten that screwed everything about the character up.

And Adamant, one reason the Spirit bombed is that it completely got away from the source material. I've got a buddy who's a huge Golden Age/Silver Age fan (and a huge fan of Eisner's Spirit) who ranted for months about all of the things that film got completely wrong. I'll have to get him on here to set that record straight.
ironknight27
ironknight27 - 5/28/2009, 5:28 PM
@Howlett04- I totally agree with you about Batman's voice. I had this arguement with some of my friends about it but I personally liked the voice he used. I admit I did not like at first but it grew on me.

I think that directors should listen to comic book fans to a degree. But they can not please everyone and I realize that. But we should be heard because we are the ones who buy the books that these characters belong to.
adamant877
adamant877 - 5/28/2009, 5:34 PM
comicbookguy: I'd love to chat with him! The only true "departure" from the comics was the amalgamation of Dr Cobra and Octopus. Aside from that, and all of the screen time that Octpous gave us (The Octopus from the comics never showed his face), there wasn't much else that was changed.
Tonally, the movie was spot-on. The art-nuevo, highly sexually suggestive material, violence, and extreme character representation were hallmark Eisner!

Even the suit, which was colored blue in the comics due to printing issues, was meant to be black originally. And MOST of Eisner's works were in black and white, with references in off colors for exagerated effect.

But I digress, the point in what I was saying was that most people DON'T KNOW the subtle nuances of the character, and wouldn't know about ANY of the references I've made. It was just simply before their time.
redrum010
redrum010 - 5/28/2009, 5:49 PM
Bmanhall put it perfectly
RaidenAR4
RaidenAR4 - 5/28/2009, 7:03 PM
without the fans who would go to see the movies?
TheShakeBake
TheShakeBake - 5/28/2009, 8:29 PM
VIVA LA HUKUNA MATATA .... uhhh yaaa lol

See Ya, The ShakeBake
Hellmont
Hellmont - 5/28/2009, 9:33 PM
The Only way to make these F#CKING HOLLYWOOD CORPORATE BASTARDS listen and obey is if every NERD who loves comic books BOYCOTTS a movie when it isnt up to par with our standards and then
HOLLYWOOD would listen and Obey

I say we all meet up at different Film Studios and Go Kick some Corporate Winnie ASS

LEEE777
LEEE777 - 5/29/2009, 4:20 AM
KeepItReal @ : D Luv the FIRST thing heh heh!

Hellmont @ lol

I think as long as HOLLYWOOD stays close to the SOURCE MATERIAL an stop making their own take, everyone wins!!! ; ) plus it = better movie!!!
comicb00kguy
comicb00kguy - 5/29/2009, 7:27 AM
adamant: You are certainly correct in your basic point that the Spirit is before most fans' time, so they know little of him. That's a shame, really, because Will Eisner was a very influential creator who is often cited as a major influence by many of comics' top creators. My personal opinion is that the movie failed because it came across as extremely campy (and not in a good Adam West Batman way), which is something today's comics fans just don't enjoy. I'll try to get my buddy on here for a deeper debate.

Leee and B-man: I agree completely! I think that wanting to see better comic movies that really bring our favorites to life and "get it right" is something everyone here can agree on. Why settle for a Homer Simpsonesque halfass job by a lazy hack?
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